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Other Polls 25 OCT 21

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Sam Herder's Poll at HERO Sports (he lists it backwards):

25. Eastern Kentucky
24. Princeton
23. Jackson State
22. Chattanooga
21. UT Martin
20. UIW
19. South Dakota
18. ETSU
17. VMI
16. Weber State
15. Northern Iowa
14. Montana
13. Kennesaw State
12. Missouri State
11. Sacramento State
10. UC Davis
9. Southeastern Louisiana University
8. South Dakota State
7. Eastern Washington
6. Montana State
5. James Madison
4. Villanova
3. Southern Illinois
2. North Dakota State
1. Sam Houston

Athlon doesn't seem to have posted theirs yet. Personally, while it's gratifying to see my Hornets ranked so high, that's probably a bit inflated. While I find the Coaches Poll insulting at T-23, I think the STATS Poll has it about right at 15.

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Re: Other Polls 25 OCT 21

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Athlon Poll

1. SHSU (Prev. 1)
2. ND State (Prev. 2)
3. S. Illinois (Prev. 4)
4. Villanova (Prev. 5)
5. JMU (Prev. 6)
6. MT State (Prev. 8)
7. E. Washington (Prev. 3)
8. SELA (Prev. 9)
9. UC Davis (Prev. 10)
10. SD State (Prev. 7)
11. Kennesaw State (Prev. 12)
12. Sacramento State (Prev. 13)
13. Montana (Prev. 14)
14. E. TN State (Prev. 15)
15. N. Iowa (Prev. 22)
16. Weber State (Prev. 21) Team of the Week
17. TN-Martin (Prev. 16)
18. SW Missouri State (Prev. 11)
19. North Dakota (Prev. NR)
20. Princeton (Prev. 25)
21. VMI (Prev. 24)
22. TN-Chattanooga (Prev. NR)
23. South Dakota (Prev. 17)
24. E. Kentucky (Prev. NR)
25. Jackson State (Prev. NR)

SH's Quibbles:

1. A drop from 3 to 7 for EWU is WAY too steep.
2. Kennesaw at 11 and Sac at 12 are inflated, to say the least.
3. A drop from 11 to 18 for a 1-TD loss to the team one ranks #2 is kinda drastic, right?
4. Bringing in an unranked team at 19 for a win over WIU is inflation.
5. Moving a team up 3 spots on a bye week is weird.
6. Bringing a team in on a bye week (albeit at 24) is weird.
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Re: Other Polls 25 OCT 21

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01 NOV Athlon Poll

1. Sam (Prev 1)
2. NDSU (Prev 2)
3. JMU (Prev 5)
4. MSU (Prev 6)
5. EWU (Prev 7)
6. UNI (Prev 15)
7. SIU (Prev 3)
8. SDSU (Prev 10)
9. SELA (Prev 8)
10. UC Davis (Prev 9)
11. Kennesaw State (Prev 11)
12. Sac State (Prev 12)
13. Montana (Prev 13)
14. Villanova (Prev 4)
15. ETSU (Prev 14)
16. Weber State (Prev 16)
17. SW Missouri State (Prev 18)
18. TN-Martin (Prev 17)
19. Princeton (Prev 20)
20. VMI (Prev 21)
21. Team of the Week William & Mary (Prev NR)
22. TN-Chattanooga (Prev 22)
23. South Dakota (Prev 23)
24. E. Kentucky (Prev 24)
T-25. Jackson State (Prev 25)
T-25. Mercer (Prev NR)

Issues: 1. Bumping UNI 9 spots for their win over previous #3 SIU. Impressive, but a bit much of a jump. 2. Dropping Villanova ten spots for their loss to B&M. A bit of a shock, yes, but ten spots seems a bit excessive.
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Re: Other Polls 25 OCT 21

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01 NOV HERO Poll

25. Eastern Kentucky

24. Jackson State

23. Chattanooga

22. UT Martin

21. UIW

20. South Dakota

19. William & Mary

18. ETSU

17. VMI

16. Weber State

15. Montana

14. Kennesaw State

13. Missouri State

12. Sacramento State

11. UC Davis

10. Southeastern Louisiana University

9. Villanova

8. South Dakota State

7. Southern Illinois

6. Northern Iowa

5. Eastern Washington

4. Montana State

3. James Madison

2. North Dakota State

1. Sam Houston

A bit more reasonable, as Villanova dropped, but not super far. Still concerned about UNI's huge jump.
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Other Polls 08 NOV 21

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Athlon

1. Sam Houston (Def. Dixie State; Prev 1)
2. JMU (Def. Campbell; Prev 3)
3. Montana State (Def. #8 E. Washington; Prev 4)
4. SDSU (Def. #5 NDSU; Prev 8)
5. NDSU (Lost to #4 SDSU; Prev 2)
6. UC Davis (Def. NAU; Prev 10)
7. Villanova (Def. Elon; Prev 14)
8. E. Washington (Lost to #3 Montana State; Prev 5)
9. ETSU (Def. #24 VMI; Prev 15)
10. Sacramento State (Def. Cal Poly; Prev 12)
11. Kennesaw State (Def. Robert Morris; Prev 11)
12. Montana (Def. N. Colorado; Prev 13)
13. SW Missouri State (Def. #15 SIU;Prev 17)
14. Team of the Week TN-Martin (Def. TN State; Prev 18)
15. S. Illinois (Lost to #13 SW Missouri State; Prev 7)
16. SELA (Lost to #17 Incarnate Word; Prev 9)
17. Incarnate Word (Def. #16 SELA; Prev NR)
18. South Dakota (Def. W. IL; Prev 23)
19. TN-Chattanooga (Def. Wofford; Prev 22)
20. N. Iowa (Lost to IL State OT; Prev 6)
21. Delaware (Def. W&M Prev NR)
22. Jackson State (Def. TX Southern; Prev T-25)
23. Dartmouth (Def. Princeton; Prev NR)
24. VMI (Lost to #9 ETSU; Prev 20)
25. Rhode Island (Scalp of UMASS; Prev NR)

Rank swings (+7 for Villanova, +6 for ETSU, -8 for S. Illinois, -7 for SELA, +5 for South Dakota, -14 for N. Iowa) seem excessive, while entering Incarnate Word at #17 is coming it rather high, particularly for bordering them on the team they just beat without crossing them over, as was done with NDSU and SDSU.
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HERO Poll

1. Sam Houston State
2. Montana State
3. James Madison
4. SDSU
5. NDSU
6. UC Davis
7. Sacramento State
8. E. Washington
9. Villanova
10. SW Missouri State
11. ETSU
12. Kennesaw State
13. SELA
14. Montana
15. N. Iowa
16. S. Illinois
17. Incarnate Word
18. South Dakota
19. VMI
20. TN-Chattanooga
21. TN-Martin
22. Jackson State
23. William & Mary
24. Prairie View A&M
25. Dartmouth

Both Sac and UCD are WAY overinflated, and I'm wondering about the presence of Prairie View....

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Re: Other Polls 25 OCT 21

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Athlon Poll 15 NOV 21:

1. Sam Houston
(9-0, 5-0 AQ7)
Previous Ranking: 1
Week 11 Result: 42-28 win over Eastern Kentucky
Next Game: Nov. 20 at Abilene Christian

2. James Madison
(9-1, 6-1 CAA)
Previous Ranking: 2
Week 11 Result: 32-22 win at William & Mary
Next Game: Nov. 20 vs. Towson

3. North Dakota State
(9-1, 6-1 Missouri Valley)
Previous Ranking: 5
Week 11 Result: 49-17 win at Youngstown State
Next Game: Nov. 20 vs. No. 14 South Dakota

4. Montana State
(9-1, 7-0 Big Sky)
Previous Ranking: 3
Week 11 Result: 20-13 win over Idaho
Next Game: Nov. 20 at No. 9 Montana

5. Eastern Washington
(8-2, 5-2 Big Sky)
Previous Ranking: 8
Week 11 Result: 38-20 win at UC Davis
Next Game: Nov. 20 at Portland State

6. Villanova
(8-2, 6-1 CAA)
Previous Ranking: 7
Week 11 Result: 33-14 win over Stony Brook
Next Game: Nov. 20 at Delaware

7. ETSU
(9-1, 6-1 Southern)
Previous Ranking: 9
Week 11 Result: 56-35 win at Western Carolina
Next Game: Nov. 20 vs. No. 20 Mercer


8. Sacramento State
(8-2, 7-0 Big Sky)
Previous Ranking: 10
Week 11 Result: 49-20 win over Portland State
Next Game: Nov. 20 at No. 16 UC Davis

9. Montana
(8-2, 5-2 Big Sky)
Previous Ranking: 12
Week 11 Result: 30-3 win at Northern Arizona
Next Game: Nov. 20 vs. No. 4 Montana State

10. Missouri State
(7-3, 6-2 Missouri Valley)
Previous Ranking: 13
Week 11 Result: 34-27 win over Northern Iowa
Next Game: Nov. 20 at Dixie State

11. UT Martin
(9-1, 5-0 Ohio Valley)
Previous Ranking: 14
Week 11 Result: 42-3 win at Tennessee Tech
Next Game: Nov. 20 at Southeast Missouri

12. South Dakota State
(7-3, 4-3 Missouri Valley)
Previous Ranking: 4
Week 11 Result: 23-20 loss at South Dakota
Next Game: Nov. 20 vs. North Dakota

13. Southern Illinois
(7-3, 5-2 Missouri Valley)
Previous Ranking: 15
Week 11 Result: 47-21 win at Indiana State
Next Game: Nov. 20 vs. Youngstown State

14. South Dakota
(7-3, 5-2 Missouri Valley)
Previous Ranking: 18
Week 11 Result: 23-20 win over South Dakota State
Next Game: Nov. 20 at No. 3 North Dakota State

15. Southeastern Louisiana
(8-2, 6-1 Southland)
Previous Ranking: 16
Week 11 Result: 56-28 win over Northwestern State
Next Game: Nov. 18 vs. Nicholls

16. UC Davis
(8-2, 5-2 Big Sky)
Previous Ranking: 6
Week 11 Result: 38-20 loss to Eastern Washington
Next Game: Nov. 20 vs. No. 8 Sacramento State


17. Kennesaw State
(9-1, 6-0 Big South)
Previous Ranking: 11
Week 11 Result: 28-24 win at North Alabama
Next Game: Nov. 20 vs. No. 25 Monmouth

18. UIW
(8-2, 6-1 Southland)
Previous Ranking: 17
Week 11 Result: 27-23 win at Nicholls
Next Game: Nov. 20 at Houston Baptist

19. Rhode Island
(7-3, 4-3 CAA)
Previous Ranking: 25
Week 11 Result: 28-3 win over New Hampshire
Next Game: Nov. 20 at Elon

20. Mercer
(7-2, 6-1 Southern)
Previous Ranking: Not Ranked|
Week 11 Result: 10-6 win over Chattanooga
Next Game: Nov. 20 at No. 7 ETSU

21. Jackson State
(9-1, 7-0 SWAC)
Previous Ranking: 22
Week 11 Result: 21-17 win at Southern
Next Game: Nov. 20 vs. Alcorn State

22. Holy Cross
(8-2, 5-0 Patriot)
Previous Ranking: Not Ranked
Week 11 Result: 52-24 win at Fordham
Next Game: No. 20 at Bucknell

23. Dartmouth
(8-1, 5-1 Ivy)
Previous Ranking: 23
Week 11 Result: 41-7 win over Cornell
Next Game: Nov. 20 at Brown

24. Chattanooga
(6-4, 5-2 Southern)
Previous Ranking: 19
Week 11 Result: 10-6 loss at Mercer
Next Game: Nov. 20 vs. The Citadel

Team of the Week
25. Monmouth
(7-3, 6-0 Big South)
Previous Ranking: Not Ranked
Week 11 Result: 44-7 win over Robert Morris
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Re: Other Polls 25 OCT 21

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HERO Poll 15 NOV 21:

25. Northern Iowa

24. FAMU

23. William & Mary

22. Dartmouth

21. Mercer

20. VMI

19. UT Martin

18. Jackson State

17. Southeastern Louisiana University

16. UIW

15. South Dakota State

14. UC Davis

13. Southern Illinois

12. South Dakota

11. Kennesaw State

10. Montana

9. ETSU

8. Missouri State

7. Villanova

6. Sacramento State

5. Eastern Washington

4. North Dakota State

3. James Madison

2. Montana State

1. Sam Houston
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Re: Other Polls 25 OCT 21

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SuperHornet wrote: Tue Nov 16, 2021 5:04 pm HERO Poll 15 NOV 21:

25. Northern Iowa

24. FAMU

23. William & Mary

22. Dartmouth

21. Mercer

20. VMI

19. UT Martin

18. Jackson State

17. Southeastern Louisiana University

16. UIW

15. South Dakota State

14. UC Davis

13. Southern Illinois

12. South Dakota

11. Kennesaw State

10. Montana

9. ETSU

8. Missouri State

7. Villanova

6. Sacramento State

5. Eastern Washington

4. North Dakota State

3. James Madison

2. Montana State

1. Sam Houston
Dartmouth lost to unranked Columbia, FAMU lost to a FBS and #18.
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Here's a question for you voters, been a while since I've asked. Which is more important to you, good wins or lack of bad losses? Obviously both are taken into account, but one has to weigh more for you.

Kennesaw State has not a single "good" win but is in everyone's poll and quite high in some. It's hard to say who their best win is against. 5-5 Jax State? How about a 4 point win over 2-8 UNA or 3-7 G Webb? Do we really think KSU would be .500 in the Big Sky or MVFC? UNI on the other hand has lost to a I-A and three playoff teams. Their only "bad" loss is to Illinois State who also beat South Dakota.

It's pretty clear which most pollsters take more into account and I think they're wrong.

There's a reason Houston is ranked 24 with a 9-1 record and UTSA is 22 at 10-0. I-AA pollsters are too afraid to tell the truth about some of these teams.
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My poll has Kennesaw at 22, UNI 19.
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Re: Other Polls 25 OCT 21

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You guys are right. The Big South lost a boatload of cred when CCU and Liberty jumped to the Land of Invisibility.
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SuperHornet wrote: Thu Nov 18, 2021 9:12 am You guys are right. The Big South lost a boatload of cred when CCU and Liberty jumped to the Land of Invisibility.
Rest of Big South OOC game vs D1...

UNA: 0-4
Campbell: 1-3 (beat former BS member Presby)
Monmouth: 1-3 (lost to Ivy and Patriot)
Hampton: 1-2 (beat 2-8 Howard)
Bob Morris: 1-2 (beat 2-8 Howard)
G Webb: 1-2
Chuck South: 1-1
NCAT: 2-2 (two MEAC wins)
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