2021 AGS FCS Poll - Final

[Gil Dobie]

21 William & Mary Tribe 318
Maine receiving no votes

13 Montana Grizzlies 631
16 Sac State Hornets 524

I had them in this order

Sac State Hornets
William & Mary Tribe
Villanova Wildcats
Montana Grizzlies

Only 3 CAA teams for me, JMU, Nova and Bill & Mary

[uofmman1122]

Montana should be closer to 20-25 than anywhere near the top 10.

[89Hen]

Gil, what the hell is going on with my poll?

[Gil Dobie]

Gil, what the hell is going on with my poll?

Ursus does a great job running the poll, but he's not in charge of how people vote. I've tried discussing this with voters, but the so called experts disagree with me. Need more people like you to come back and make the AGS poll great again.

[clenz]

10 Northern Iowa Panthers 757
20 South Dakota Coyotes 326

7 Southern Illinois Salukis 899
9 South Dakota State Jackrabbits 828
10 Northern Iowa Panthers 757

[UNI88]

10 Northern Iowa Panthers 757
20 South Dakota Coyotes 326

7 Southern Illinois Salukis 899
9 South Dakota State Jackrabbits 828
10 Northern Iowa Panthers 757

Think about what will happen if the wabbits beat the bizumbs ...

Separate question - do you know what the SIU LB (Notree) did to get the 2nd unsportsmanlike conduct penalty against UNI?

[UNI88]

Gil, what the hell is going on with my poll?

Ursus does a great job running the poll, but he's not in charge of how people vote. I've tried discussing this with voters, but the so called experts disagree with me. Need more people like you to come back and make the AGS poll great again.

It's a shame. It used to be the absolute best FCS/I-AA poll.

[Gil Dobie]

10 Northern Iowa Panthers 757
20 South Dakota Coyotes 326

7 Southern Illinois Salukis 899
9 South Dakota State Jackrabbits 828
10 Northern Iowa Panthers 757

mine
6: Northern Iowa Panthers
7: Southern Illinois Salukis
10: South Dakota State Jackrabbits

[Gil Dobie]

Ursus does a great job running the poll, but he's not in charge of how people vote. I've tried discussing this with voters, but the so called experts disagree with me. Need more people like you to come back and make the AGS poll great again.

It's a shame. It used to be the absolute best FCS/I-AA poll.

It still is, the other polls are that bad.

[clenz]

7 Southern Illinois Salukis 899
9 South Dakota State Jackrabbits 828
10 Northern Iowa Panthers 757

Think about what will happen if the wabbits beat the bizumbs ...

Separate question - do you know what the SIU LB (Notree) did to get the 2nd unsportsmanlike conduct penalty against UNI?

I don't. I was standing on the north concourse, like always, and it was right in front of me but I had my head turned to talk to my son as the flag flew. There are SIU fans being all pissy going "He wasn't even on the field when it was called". He 100% was. He was standing right on the LOS. Given he had picked up a personal foul and an unsportsmanlike on the same play on the previous defensive snap for SIU, and how worked up he was, I'm guessing he said a few choice "no-no" words while standing right next to the ref while waiting for the UNI offense to get set.

SIU's entire goal early in that game was to talk as much shit and be as dirty as possible to get UNI to respond to throw UNI off. It worked early, but UNI settled in and Farley got their heads right. Farley said as much post-game, and then Monday at his presser. The language and words flying out of SIU's mouths and sidelines were something that hasn't happened in the dome in a very long time it sounds like.


It's entirely possible that SDSU misses the playoffs (though to likely). They have a D2 win and have USD and NDSU left. They go 7-4 (4-4) and they will be 6-4 (4-4) on the resume sheet having lost 4 of their last 6. Pending how the rest plays out but that would likely put them 5th or 6th after tie breakers.

Their wins right now are
FBS Colorado State - bad FBS but FBS none the less
D2 Lindenwood
Indiana State - who likely finishes 8th in the Valley
Dixie Staet - winless
Western Illinois - 10th or 11th place in the Valley pending tie breaks
YSU - 10th or 11th place in the Valley pending how tie breaks fall

They have NDSU, USD and UND left. It's possible they lose all 3. I'd put money on 2 of 3. If they don't beat NDSU they won't have a win against the top half of the Valley because UND is going to finish 9th (or below) in the Valley and USD is likey to be 6th or worse if they lose to SDSU

They will have played 3 actually good teams and lost to all of them - SIU, UNI and NDSU. A loss to USD, even more so UND the final week of the season, would be catastrophic.

[clenz]

double

[UNI88]

Think about what will happen if the wabbits beat the bizumbs ...

Separate question - do you know what the SIU LB (Notree) did to get the 2nd unsportsmanlike conduct penalty against UNI?

I don't. I was standing on the north concourse, like always, and it was right in front of me but I had my head turned to talk to my son as the flag flew. There are SIU fans being all pissy going "He wasn't even on the field when it was called". He 100% was. He was standing right on the LOS. Given he had picked up a personal foul and an unsportsmanlike on the same play on the previous defensive snap for SIU, and how worked up he was, I'm guessing he said a few choice "no-no" words while standing right next to the ref while waiting for the UNI offense to get set.

SIU's entire goal early in that game was to talk as much shit and be as dirty as possible to get UNI to respond to throw UNI off. It worked early, but UNI settled in and Farley got their heads right. Farley said as much post-game, and then Monday at his presser. The language and words flying out of SIU's mouths and sidelines were something that hasn't happened in the dome in a very long time it sounds like.

It's entirely possible that SDSU misses the playoffs (though to likely). They have a D2 win and have USD and NDSU left. They go 7-4 (4-4) and they will be 6-4 (4-4) on the resume sheet having lost 4 of their last 6. Pending how the rest plays out but that would likely put them 5th or 6th after tie breakers.

Their wins right now are
FBS Colorado State - bad FBS but FBS none the less
D2 Lindenwood
Indiana State - who likely finishes 8th in the Valley
Dixie Staet - winless
Western Illinois - 10th or 11th place in the Valley pending tie breaks
YSU - 10th or 11th place in the Valley pending how tie breaks fall

They have NDSU, USD and UND left. It's possible they lose all 3. I'd put money on 2 of 3. If they don't beat NDSU they won't have a win against the top half of the Valley because UND is going to finish 9th (or below) in the Valley and USD is likey to be 6th or worse if they lose to SDSU

They will have played 3 actually good teams and lost to all of them - SIU, UNI and NDSU. A loss to USD, even more so UND the final week of the season, would be catastrophic.

There were news reports that said he wasn't on the field either but I don't see how that could be. He's the emotional leader of their defense and the flag flew while the UNI offense was running past the Ref onto the field. There's almost no way he was on the sideline at that point in the game. And whatever he said, he said it loud enough for the Ref to hear.

[clenz]

I don't. I was standing on the north concourse, like always, and it was right in front of me but I had my head turned to talk to my son as the flag flew. There are SIU fans being all pissy going "He wasn't even on the field when it was called". He 100% was. He was standing right on the LOS. Given he had picked up a personal foul and an unsportsmanlike on the same play on the previous defensive snap for SIU, and how worked up he was, I'm guessing he said a few choice "no-no" words while standing right next to the ref while waiting for the UNI offense to get set.

SIU's entire goal early in that game was to talk as much shit and be as dirty as possible to get UNI to respond to throw UNI off. It worked early, but UNI settled in and Farley got their heads right. Farley said as much post-game, and then Monday at his presser. The language and words flying out of SIU's mouths and sidelines were something that hasn't happened in the dome in a very long time it sounds like.

It's entirely possible that SDSU misses the playoffs (though to likely). They have a D2 win and have USD and NDSU left. They go 7-4 (4-4) and they will be 6-4 (4-4) on the resume sheet having lost 4 of their last 6. Pending how the rest plays out but that would likely put them 5th or 6th after tie breakers.

Their wins right now are
FBS Colorado State - bad FBS but FBS none the less
D2 Lindenwood
Indiana State - who likely finishes 8th in the Valley
Dixie Staet - winless
Western Illinois - 10th or 11th place in the Valley pending tie breaks
YSU - 10th or 11th place in the Valley pending how tie breaks fall

They have NDSU, USD and UND left. It's possible they lose all 3. I'd put money on 2 of 3. If they don't beat NDSU they won't have a win against the top half of the Valley because UND is going to finish 9th (or below) in the Valley and USD is likey to be 6th or worse if they lose to SDSU

They will have played 3 actually good teams and lost to all of them - SIU, UNI and NDSU. A loss to USD, even more so UND the final week of the season, would be catastrophic.

There were news reports that said he wasn't on the field either but I don't see how that could be. He's the emotional leader of their defense and the flag flew while the UNI offense was running past the Ref onto the field. There's almost no way he was on the sideline at that point in the game. And whatever he said, he said it loud enough for the Ref to hear.

He was 1000% on the field. I watched him walk off the field and slam his helmet on the field while screaming at the ref as he walked off. UNI was going to the north endzone, and I said I was on the concourse above the north endzone. It was maybe 20 yards from me.

People want to say he "wasn't on the field" because of what lead up to it.

UNI turned the ball over - he was called for the unsportsmanlike and personal foul after that play. Thsu SIU took over and were on offense. 2 plays later they turned the ball back over to UNI. UNI hadn't run a play yet so it is filed in game feed as having happened while SIU had the ball but that isn't what happened at all.

I can tell you he was on the left side of the defense, because I watched him cross in front of the center as he walked to the SIU sideline. IIRC the penalties he picked up 2 plays earlier were directed at either Frazier or Peine - who play on the right side of the UNI OL (which is where he was when the flag flew)

[UNI88]

There were news reports that said he wasn't on the field either but I don't see how that could be. He's the emotional leader of their defense and the flag flew while the UNI offense was running past the Ref onto the field. There's almost no way he was on the sideline at that point in the game. And whatever he said, he said it loud enough for the Ref to hear.

He was 1000% on the field. I watched him walk off the field and slam his helmet on the field while screaming at the ref as he walked off. UNI was going to the north endzone, and I said I was on the concourse above the north endzone. It was maybe 20 yards from me.

People want to say he "wasn't on the field" because of what lead up to it.

UNI turned the ball over - he was called for the unsportsmanlike and personal foul after that play. Thsu SIU took over and were on offense. 2 plays later they turned the ball back over to UNI. UNI hadn't run a play yet so it is filed in game feed as having happened while SIU had the ball but that isn't what happened at all.

I can tell you he was on the left side of the defense, because I watched him cross in front of the center as he walked to the SIU sideline. IIRC the penalties he picked up 2 plays earlier were directed at either Frazier or Peine - who play on the right side of the UNI OL (which is where he was when the flag flew)

I believe you. I was watching on TV and they were showing the UNI offense (I think Day and others) running past the official onto the field when he threw the flag. It was long after the turnover and the defense usually gets onto the field before the offense in those situations.

I will say that his backup played a very good game.

[Mvemjsunpx]

21 William & Mary Tribe 318
Maine receiving no votes

I guess that would seem weird if you only looked at Maine's win over W&M and ignored how crappy the rest of their resume is.

[89Hen]

21 William & Mary Tribe 318
Maine receiving no votes

I guess that would seem weird if you only looked at Maine's win over W&M and ignored how crappy the rest of their resume is.

Thanks for chiming in Mr Latey Late.

[Gil Dobie]

11/8/2021

Rank Team: Total Points First Place Votes
1 Sam Houston Bearkats 1324 52
2 Montana State Bobcats 1259 1
3 James Madison Dukes 1201
4 South Dakota State Jackrabbits 1112
5 North Dakota State Bison 1106
6 UC Davis Aggies 1023
7 Villanova Wildcats 925
8 Eastern Washington Eagles 889
9 East Tennessee State Buccaneers 866
10 Montana Grizzlies 769
11 Missouri State Bears 722
12 Kennesaw State Owls 678
13 Sac State Hornets 677
14 Southeastern Louisiana Lions 665
15 Southern Illinois Salukis 656
16 Tennessee-Martin Skyhawks 622
17 Incarnate Word Cardinals 562
18 South Dakota Coyotes 430
19 Northern Iowa Panthers 333
20 Chattanooga Mocs 278
21 Jackson State Tigers 242
22 Dartmouth Big Green 219
23 Virginia Military Institute Keydets 213
24 Mercer Bears 90
25 Princeton Tigers 61
ORV:
26 William & Mary Tribe 58
27 Monmouth Hawks 57
28 Stephen F. Austin Lumberjacks 47
29 Holy Cross Crusaders 39
30 Harvard Crimson 33
31 Rhode Island Rams 32
32 Nicholls Colonels 11
33 Davidson Wildcats 9
34 North Dakota Fighting Hawks 7
Most Significant Win: Montana State Bobcats
Most Significant Loss: Northern Iowa Panthers

[Winterborn]

11/8/2021

Rank Team: Total Points First Place Votes
1 Sam Houston Bearkats 1324 52
2 Montana State Bobcats 1259 1
3 James Madison Dukes 1201
4 South Dakota State Jackrabbits 1112
5 North Dakota State Bison 1106
6 UC Davis Aggies 1023
7 Villanova Wildcats 925
8 Eastern Washington Eagles 889
9 East Tennessee State Buccaneers 866
10 Montana Grizzlies 769
11 Missouri State Bears 722
12 Kennesaw State Owls 678
13 Sac State Hornets 677
14 Southeastern Louisiana Lions 665
15 Southern Illinois Salukis 656
16 Tennessee-Martin Skyhawks 622
17 Incarnate Word Cardinals 562
18 South Dakota Coyotes 430
19 Northern Iowa Panthers 333
20 Chattanooga Mocs 278
21 Jackson State Tigers 242
22 Dartmouth Big Green 219
23 Virginia Military Institute Keydets 213
24 Mercer Bears 90
25 Princeton Tigers 61
ORV:
26 William & Mary Tribe 58
27 Monmouth Hawks 57
28 Stephen F. Austin Lumberjacks 47
29 Holy Cross Crusaders 39
30 Harvard Crimson 33
31 Rhode Island Rams 32
32 Nicholls Colonels 11
33 Davidson Wildcats 9
34 North Dakota Fighting Hawks 7
Most Significant Win: Montana State Bobcats
Most Significant Loss: Northern Iowa Panthers

I think that is pretty solid even though I question how good SHSU really is with their 10-ply schedule.

[SuperHornet]

10-ply?

[89Hen]

No real complaints this week. Looks about right.

[Winterborn]

10-ply?

It is a quote from the show Letterkenny.

Really Soft, A pushover, 5 times softer than 2 ply toilet paper.

https://www.urbandictionary.com/define. ... =Ten%20Ply

[dbackjon]

NAU has played (and lost) to:

#1 SHSU
#6 UC-Davis
#13 Sacramento State
#18 South Dakota

Up next: #10 Montucky

[Gil Dobie]

No real complaints this week. Looks about right.

Still have a couple Ivy's in the Poll. Best win outside the Ivy, maybe Holy Cross. They also beat UNH, who has lost 6 straight, including a game to previously winless Albany. Monmouth knocking on the door is a little high for them too.

[Gil Dobie]

AGS Poll Results - Week 11 - 2021
11/15/2021

Rank Team: Total Points First Place Votes
1 Sam Houston Bearkats 1273 50
2 Montana State Bobcats 1206
3 James Madison Dukes 1150
4 North Dakota State Bison 1139 1
5 Eastern Washington Eagles 1035
6 Villanova Wildcats 976
7 East Tennessee State Buccaneers 887
8 Missouri State Bears 823
9 Montana Grizzlies 818
10 UC Davis Aggies 717
11 South Dakota State Jackrabbits 699
12 South Dakota Coyotes 674
13 Sac State Hornets 673
14 Kennesaw State Owls 645
15 Southeastern Louisiana Lions 616
16 Southern Illinois Salukis 608
17 Tennessee-Martin Skyhawks 561
18 Incarnate Word Cardinals 532
19 Dartmouth Big Green 286
20T Jackson State Tigers 265
20T Mercer Bears 265
22 Stephen F. Austin Lumberjacks 126
23 Princeton Tigers 115
24 Monmouth Hawks 110
25 Holy Cross Crusaders 100
ORV:
26 Rhode Island Rams 76
27 Chattanooga Mocs 55
28 Harvard Crimson 52
29 Northern Iowa Panthers 48
30 William & Mary Tribe 20
31 Virginia Military Institute Keydets 13
32 North Dakota Fighting Hawks 8
Most Significant Win: South Dakota Coyotes
Most Significant Loss: South Dakota State Jackrabbits

[andy7171]

Towson crushed Rhody and was crushed by W&M. What in the actual F is going on?