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[Gil Dobie]

Sagarin

You lost me after that. Sagarin relies on data that doesn't exist. One game a year for most FCS teams against FBS...

But if you want to play that game. In 2003 there were 11 I-AA teams in the top 100 teams for Sagarin. Last year there were 5.

...and one of those would be competitive in todays playoffs.

I don't think we will get close to agreement on this point.

[89Hen]

You lost me after that. Sagarin relies on data that doesn't exist. One game a year for most FCS teams against FBS...

But if you want to play that game. In 2003 there were 11 I-AA teams in the top 100 teams for Sagarin. Last year there were 5.

...and one of those would be competitive in todays playoffs.

I don't think we will get close to agreement on this point.

Agreed, because your stats don't back up your position.

[Gil Dobie]

...and one of those would be competitive in todays playoffs.

I don't think we will get close to agreement on this point.

Agreed, because your stats don't back up your position.

I haven't seen anything to disprove it other than the Western teams are better than the Eastern teams. Your judgement is skewed because there a no great teams in the east.

Only 1 eastern team made the final 8 and thats because they played another eastern team to get there. The UAC is better than any east coast conference. The Ivys will be the class of the East in the coming years.

[89Hen]

I haven't seen anything to disprove it

In 2003 there were 11 I-AA teams in the top 100 teams for Sagarin. Last year there were 5.

[Gil Dobie]

I haven't seen anything to disprove it

In 2003 there were 11 I-AA teams in the top 100 teams for Sagarin. Last year there were 5.

2003 had 1 in the top 75, last season had 4.

[89Hen]

In 2003 there were 11 I-AA teams in the top 100 teams for Sagarin. Last year there were 5.

2003 had 1 in the top 75, last season had 4.

I guess had Boise won the NC this year you'd say the MWC is the best conference.

[kalm]

I haven't seen anything to disprove it

In 2003 there were 11 I-AA teams in the top 100 teams for Sagarin. Last year there were 5.

That’s a big drop. It may likely continue.

[Caribbean Hen]

watched some of a JMU at Richmond game from circa 2008, the old stadium downtown

those teams were so good it was refreshing despite being so long ago and the level of play was so much better than what the CAA is today

So yea, the CAA and the Southern were much better a few decades ago, but the question I have is has the West improved the level of the FCS play enough to make Gils argument. Im not really convinced either way right now

[Gil Dobie]

2003 had 1 in the top 75, last season had 4.

I guess had Boise won the NC this year you'd say the MWC is the best conference.

That would be like a CAA team making the final 8 this year. CAA would call themselves the best conference.

[Gil Dobie]

In 2003 there were 11 I-AA teams in the top 100 teams for Sagarin. Last year there were 5.

That’s a big drop. It may likely continue.

The trend is the other direction, IMO.

[Gil Dobie]

watched some of a JMU at Richmond game from circa 2008, the old stadium downtown

those teams were so good it was refreshing despite being so long ago and the level of play was so much better than what the CAA is today

So yea, the CAA and the Southern were much better a few decades ago, but the question I have is has the West improved the level of the FCS play enough to make Gils argument. Im not really convinced either way right now

Other schools are stepping up. It's not just NDSU and everyone else. Montana St, SDSU and South Dakota are all at that level now. UCD is rising and soon the Ivys will be in the playoffs. South Dakota may win it next year.

[Caribbean Hen]

watched some of a JMU at Richmond game from circa 2008, the old stadium downtown

those teams were so good it was refreshing despite being so long ago and the level of play was so much better than what the CAA is today

So yea, the CAA and the Southern were much better a few decades ago, but the question I have is has the West improved the level of the FCS play enough to make Gils argument. Im not really convinced either way right now

Other schools are stepping up. It's not just NDSU and everyone else. Montana St, SDSU and South Dakota are all at that level now. UCD is rising and soon the Ivys will be in the playoffs. South Dakota may win it next year.

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FCS has its My Rushmore teams but after that it’s the Bad lands