IS FCS FOOTBALL DYING?

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Is FCS FOOTBALL dying/dead?

Many FCS Programs have left so, Yes.
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FCS won’t be here in 20 years.
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FCS is fine. Things change.
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CFP caused major FBS change but not FCS.
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Top FCS teams need to bolt the ship will sink.
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Re: IS FCS FOOTBALL DYING?

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Caribbean Hen wrote: Fri May 01, 2026 4:51 am
kalm wrote: Wed Apr 29, 2026 6:59 am

Somewhat true but that puts a ceiling on their aspirations. Get paid a little now because you’re one of 6 blue chips in the RB room with limited PT or take less now for a prove yourself and raise your NiL money next season or NFl stock.
Well, just one example

The big boys are paying 1 million bucks for depth on the OL

Money talks and our FCS players walk
I seriously doubt back up lineman are being paid that. But if correct, so what? They too are replaceable by kids who hope to reach that level.
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kalm wrote: Fri May 01, 2026 7:56 am
Caribbean Hen wrote: Fri May 01, 2026 4:51 am

Well, just one example

The big boys are paying 1 million bucks for depth on the OL

Money talks and our FCS players walk
I seriously doubt back up lineman are being paid that. But if correct, so what? They too are replaceable by kids who hope to reach that level.
You should always have doubts and you’re probably right. Most of them are not making 1 million bucks but I heard a few OL did.

One of the things I love or loved about FCS was very talented players as they looked even more talented playing in FCS… it just jumped out.

When they move up to FBS there talent is kind of blended in.
Skattebo was one recent noticeable exception

I just think it’s going to be tough for FCS to grow any type of fan base under the current system of minor league football meaning if you have a good player, you’re worrying about him being gone next year.

The old diehard FCS fans will be there until the day they die, but that is the problem…. Who will take their place?
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Caribbean Hen wrote: Fri May 01, 2026 8:24 am
kalm wrote: Fri May 01, 2026 7:56 am

I seriously doubt back up lineman are being paid that. But if correct, so what? They too are replaceable by kids who hope to reach that level.
You should always have doubts and you’re probably right. Most of them are not making 1 million bucks but I heard a few OL did.

One of the things I love or loved about FCS was very talented players as they looked even more talented playing in FCS… it just jumped out.

When they move up to FBS there talent is kind of blended in.
Skattebo was one recent noticeable exception

I just think it’s going to be tough for FCS to grow any type of fan base under the current system of minor league football meaning if you have a good player, you’re worrying about him being gone next year.

The old diehard FCS fans will be there until the day they die, but that is the problem…. Who will take their place?
That’s a legitimate concern. Part of the fun was watching a Kidd like Kupp move up from practice squad and continue to develop over 4 years.
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I remember Kupp at E Washington

I thought he was a super talent, but admittedly, I didn’t know if he would be an NFL talent. I’ve been wrong before about FCS players that I thought would make it in the NFL.

Ezzard was one of them, he was spectacular at Sammy
Your WR Kauffman from 2010 was one I thought would catch on
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Caribbean Hen wrote: Fri May 01, 2026 8:33 am I remember Kupp at Eastern Washington

I thought he was a super talent, but admittedly, I didn’t know if he would be an NFL talent. I’ve been wrong before about FCS players that I thought would make it in the NFL.
You didn’t think a 6’2 WR that won the Jerry Rice award, Walter Payton Award, won back to back Big Sky Offensive POY awards and was a 4x First-team FCS All-American would be an NFL talent?
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BlackFalkin wrote: Fri May 01, 2026 8:12 pm
Caribbean Hen wrote: Fri May 01, 2026 8:33 am I remember Kupp at Eastern Washington

I thought he was a super talent, but admittedly, I didn’t know if he would be an NFL talent. I’ve been wrong before about FCS players that I thought would make it in the NFL.
You didn’t think a 6’2 WR that won the Jerry Rice award, Walter Payton Award, won back to back Big Sky Offensive POY awards and was a 4x First-team FCS All-American would be an NFL talent?
I knew he was super talented. I remember watching him in one game at E Washington and he jumped out

No I wasn’t sure if he would be an NFL talent meaning a star

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Caribbean Hen wrote: Sat May 02, 2026 4:33 am
BlackFalkin wrote: Fri May 01, 2026 8:12 pm

You didn’t think a 6’2 WR that won the Jerry Rice award, Walter Payton Award, won back to back Big Sky Offensive POY awards and was a 4x First-team FCS All-American would be an NFL talent?
I knew he was super talented. I remember watching him in one game at E Washington and he jumped out

No I wasn’t sure if he would be an NFL talent meaning a star

How bout you?
Watching Kupp against NDSU, I thought he would be a good NFL player. He lined up at several positions during the game and I just hoped NDSU could stop him whenever EWU ran a play. Watson was hard to stop, and Bryce Lance could be the next one. David Johnson was another from UNI.
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Gil Dobie wrote: Sat May 02, 2026 5:18 am
Caribbean Hen wrote: Sat May 02, 2026 4:33 am

I knew he was super talented. I remember watching him in one game at E Washington and he jumped out

No I wasn’t sure if he would be an NFL talent meaning a star

How bout you?
Watching Kupp against NDSU, I thought he would be a good NFL player. He lined up at several positions during the game and I just hoped NDSU could stop him whenever EWU ran a play. Watson was hard to stop, and Bryce Lance could be the next one. David Johnson was another from UNI.
Remember Matt Szchur … your description of Kupp in that game reminds me of him

he didn’t play in the NFL, but he played Major league baseball
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Caribbean Hen wrote: Sat May 02, 2026 5:21 am
Gil Dobie wrote: Sat May 02, 2026 5:18 am

Watching Kupp against NDSU, I thought he would be a good NFL player. He lined up at several positions during the game and I just hoped NDSU could stop him whenever EWU ran a play. Watson was hard to stop, and Bryce Lance could be the next one. David Johnson was another from UNI.
Remember Matt Szchur … your description of Kupp in that game reminds me of him

he didn’t play in the NFL, but he played Major league baseball
He didn't have the same look as Kupp.
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Gil Dobie wrote: Sun May 03, 2026 3:44 am
Caribbean Hen wrote: Sat May 02, 2026 5:21 am

Remember Matt Szchur … your description of Kupp in that game reminds me of him

he didn’t play in the NFL, but he played Major league baseball
He didn't have the same look as Kupp.
Well, maybe not, but he gifted Villanova a national championship with his skills,,,, he was spectacular in 2009
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Caribbean Hen wrote: Sun May 03, 2026 4:08 am
Gil Dobie wrote: Sun May 03, 2026 3:44 am

He didn't have the same look as Kupp.
Well, maybe not, but he gifted Villanova a national championship with his skills,,,, he was spectacular in 2009
No doubt a great player.
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Caribbean Hen wrote: Sun May 03, 2026 4:08 am
Gil Dobie wrote: Sun May 03, 2026 3:44 am

He didn't have the same look as Kupp.
Well, maybe not, but he gifted Villanova a national championship with his skills,,,, he was spectacular in 2009
He was also great in 2010 despite an injury knocking him out of some games. Nova squeezed in as an at-large, he returns, and they make it to the semi’s knocking off App State along the way. We had a safety in Matt Johnson who could take an entire side of the field away. He was assigned Sczur in that game and did the same eventually knocking him out of the game.
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kalm wrote: Mon May 04, 2026 7:00 am
Caribbean Hen wrote: Sun May 03, 2026 4:08 am

Well, maybe not, but he gifted Villanova a national championship with his skills,,,, he was spectacular in 2009
He was also great in 2010 despite an injury knocking him out of some games. Nova squeezed in as an at-large, he returns, and they make it to the semi’s knocking off App State along the way. We had a safety in Matt Johnson who could take an entire side of the field away. He was assigned Sczur in that game and did the same eventually knocking him out of the game.
I remember some of that

Nova didn’t keep up there end of the deal for the Delaware vs Villanova game for the national championship
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Caribbean Hen wrote: Mon May 04, 2026 7:14 pm
kalm wrote: Mon May 04, 2026 7:00 am

He was also great in 2010 despite an injury knocking him out of some games. Nova squeezed in as an at-large, he returns, and they make it to the semi’s knocking off App State along the way. We had a safety in Matt Johnson who could take an entire side of the field away. He was assigned Sczur in that game and did the same eventually knocking him out of the game.
I remember some of that

Nova didn’t keep up there end of the deal for the Delaware vs Villanova game for the national championship
Guess who was the best team we met in the playoffs that year according to our coaches.
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kalm wrote: Mon May 04, 2026 7:59 pm
Caribbean Hen wrote: Mon May 04, 2026 7:14 pm

I remember some of that

Nova didn’t keep up there end of the deal for the Delaware vs Villanova game for the national championship
Guess who was the best team we met in the playoffs that year according to our coaches.
Best team in terms of those on the field, or the best team including the guys holding the first down chains? :coffee:
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GannonFan wrote: Tue May 05, 2026 12:33 pm
kalm wrote: Mon May 04, 2026 7:59 pm

Guess who was the best team we met in the playoffs that year according to our coaches.
Best team in terms of those on the field, or the best team including the guys holding the first down chains? :coffee:
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Hint: It wasn’t UD

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kalm wrote: Tue May 05, 2026 6:20 pm
GannonFan wrote: Tue May 05, 2026 12:33 pm

Best team in terms of those on the field, or the best team including the guys holding the first down chains? :coffee:
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Hint: It wasn’t UD

:coffee:
No hints necessary

We already knew that by the way you framed the question

Clearly, one of the biggest breaks of all time was awarded to eastern Washington on that fourth down play because they were stopped 1 foot short of the first down …. But then the refs got involved….. it was a clown show
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