The FCS Elimination Game

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Re: The FCS Elimination Game

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Liberty -
Montana +

Albany 16
Appalachian State 74
Arkansas PB 10
Bryant 27
Butler 23
Central Connecticut 21
Delaware 84
Duquesne 32
Eastern Washington 45
Elon 30
Fordham 11
Gardner-Webb 51
Georgetown 12
Georgia Southern 31
Hampton 7
Howard 10
Jackson State 11
Jacksonville State 48
Lafayette 11
Liberty 62
Marist 6
McNeese State 35
Mississippi Valley State 7
Missouri State 21
Montana 72
Montana State 13
Murray State 40
North Carolina Central 9
North Dakota 20
Northern Arizona 36
Northern Iowa 36
Northwestern State 53
Sacramento State 68
Savannah State 10
South Dakota State 17
Southern 17
Texas State 38
Towson 38
Wagner 31
Western Carolina 33
William & Mary 37
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Re: The FCS Elimination Game

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Liberty :thumb:
Montana :thumbdown:

Albany 16
Appalachian State 74
Arkansas PB 10
Bryant 27
Butler 23
Central Connecticut 21
Delaware 84
Duquesne 32
Eastern Washington 45
Elon 30
Fordham 11
Gardner-Webb 51
Georgetown 12
Georgia Southern 31
Hampton 7
Howard 10
Jackson State 11
Jacksonville State 48
Lafayette 11
Liberty 63
Marist 6
McNeese State 35
Mississippi Valley State 7
Missouri State 21
Montana 71
Montana State 13
Murray State 40
North Carolina Central 9
North Dakota 20
Northern Arizona 36
Northern Iowa 36
Northwestern State 53
Sacramento State 68
Savannah State 10
South Dakota State 17
Southern 17
Texas State 38
Towson 38
Wagner 31
Western Carolina 33
William & Mary 37
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Re: The FCS Elimination Game

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Liberty -
Montana +

Albany 16
Appalachian State 74
Arkansas PB 10
Bryant 27
Butler 23
Central Connecticut 21
Delaware 84
Duquesne 32
Eastern Washington 45
Elon 30
Fordham 11
Gardner-Webb 51
Georgetown 12
Georgia Southern 31
Hampton 7
Howard 10
Jackson State 11
Jacksonville State 48
Lafayette 11
Liberty 62
Marist 6
McNeese State 35
Mississippi Valley State 7
Missouri State 21
Montana 72
Montana State 13
Murray State 40
North Carolina Central 9
North Dakota 20
Northern Arizona 36
Northern Iowa 36
Northwestern State 53
Sacramento State 68
Savannah State 10
South Dakota State 17
Southern 17
Texas State 38
Towson 38
Wagner 31
Western Carolina 33
William & Mary 37
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Re: The FCS Elimination Game

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Duquesne +
Mississippi Valley State -

Albany 16
Appalachian State 74
Arkansas PB 10
Bryant 27
Butler 23
Central Connecticut 21
Delaware 84
Duquesne 33
Eastern Washington 45
Elon 30
Fordham 11
Gardner-Webb 51
Georgetown 12
Georgia Southern 31
Hampton 7
Howard 10
Jackson State 11
Jacksonville State 48
Lafayette 11
Liberty 62
Marist 6
McNeese State 35
Mississippi Valley State 6
Missouri State 21
Montana 72
Montana State 13
Murray State 40
North Carolina Central 9
North Dakota 20
Northern Arizona 36
Northern Iowa 36
Northwestern State 53
Sacramento State 68
Savannah State 10
South Dakota State 17
Southern 17
Texas State 38
Towson 38
Wagner 31
Western Carolina 33
William & Mary 37
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Re: The FCS Elimination Game

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Clenz, dont want to quote your whole thing and waste space but,

Im not saying everyone shold bow down to Liberty. We aren't all idiots, we get the fact that our program has done nothing to show other fans "wow thats a good team". Believe us, we know the Big South is a joke, and we're not dumb. Im not trying to say everyone should become LU fans, I wasnt saying anything like that.

All I was saying was take a look at the "low down on liberty" thread. I get the fact that to some the thought of Jerry Falwell churns anger in them. But the guy who started the thread was just trying to talk football and look what happens. Its not everyone, its just a few people around the interwebs who think they are the first person to let us know that Jerry was controversial. I was on LU's debate team, and believe me Ive heard worse than anything I have ever read on a Football forum, typically from Cornell, and so im not trying to say we cant handle it. Im just saying we get it, most people hate Jerrys Guts. Lets move on, and talk some football. More of us would love to do that, but we also know 90% of the time its just going to result in a F*** you liberty thread.

And sorry about the grammar, Truth be told, I was a little tired and a few summer ale's deep at the time. Not all of use Crazy Baptists think Beer is "of the devil"
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Re: The FCS Elimination Game

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Liberty +
Montana -

Albany 16
Appalachian State 74
Arkansas PB 10
Bryant 27
Butler 23
Central Connecticut 21
Delaware 84
Duquesne 33
Eastern Washington 45
Elon 30
Fordham 11
Gardner-Webb 51
Georgetown 12
Georgia Southern 31
Hampton 7
Howard 10
Jackson State 11
Jacksonville State 48
Lafayette 11
Liberty 63
Marist 6
McNeese State 35
Mississippi Valley State 6
Missouri State 21
Montana 71
Montana State 13
Murray State 40
North Carolina Central 9
North Dakota 20
Northern Arizona 36
Northern Iowa 36
Northwestern State 53
Sacramento State 68
Savannah State 10
South Dakota State 17
Southern 17
Texas State 38
Towson 38
Wagner 31
Western Carolina 33
William & Mary 37
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Re: The FCS Elimination Game

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Liberty -
Delaware +

Albany 16
Appalachian State 74
Arkansas PB 10
Bryant 27
Butler 23
Central Connecticut 21
Delaware 85
Duquesne 33
Eastern Washington 45
Elon 30
Fordham 11
Gardner-Webb 51
Georgetown 12
Georgia Southern 31
Hampton 7
Howard 10
Jackson State 11
Jacksonville State 48
Lafayette 11
Liberty 62
Marist 6
McNeese State 35
Mississippi Valley State 6
Missouri State 21
Montana 71
Montana State 13
Murray State 40
North Carolina Central 9
North Dakota 20
Northern Arizona 36
Northern Iowa 36
Northwestern State 53
Sacramento State 68
Savannah State 10
South Dakota State 17
Southern 17
Texas State 38
Towson 38
Wagner 31
Western Carolina 33
William & Mary 37
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Re: The FCS Elimination Game

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LU +
Montana -

Albany 16
Appalachian State 74
Arkansas PB 10
Bryant 27
Butler 23
Central Connecticut 21
Delaware 85
Duquesne 33
Eastern Washington 45
Elon 30
Fordham 11
Gardner-Webb 51
Georgetown 12
Georgia Southern 31
Hampton 7
Howard 10
Jackson State 11
Jacksonville State 48
Lafayette 11
Liberty 63
Marist 6
McNeese State 35
Mississippi Valley State 6
Missouri State 21
Montana 70
Montana State 13
Murray State 40
North Carolina Central 9
North Dakota 20
Northern Arizona 36
Northern Iowa 36
Northwestern State 53
Sacramento State 68
Savannah State 10
South Dakota State 17
Southern 17
Texas State 38
Towson 38
Wagner 31
Western Carolina 33
William & Mary 37
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Re: The FCS Elimination Game

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rueful wrote:Clenz, dont want to quote your whole thing and waste space but,

Im not saying everyone shold bow down to Liberty. We aren't all idiots, we get the fact that our program has done nothing to show other fans "wow thats a good team". Believe us, we know the Big South is a joke, and we're not dumb. Im not trying to say everyone should become LU fans, I wasnt saying anything like that.

All I was saying was take a look at the "low down on liberty" thread. I get the fact that to some the thought of Jerry Falwell churns anger in them. But the guy who started the thread was just trying to talk football and look what happens. Its not everyone, its just a few people around the interwebs who think they are the first person to let us know that Jerry was controversial. I was on LU's debate team, and believe me Ive heard worse than anything I have ever read on a Football forum, typically from Cornell, and so im not trying to say we cant handle it. Im just saying we get it, most people hate Jerrys Guts. Lets move on, and talk some football. More of us would love to do that, but we also know 90% of the time its just going to result in a F*** you liberty thread.

And sorry about the grammar, Truth be told, I was a little tired and a few summer ale's deep at the time. Not all of use Crazy Baptists think Beer is "of the devil"
agree 100%. but then again some people have no lives and have to put down others to make them feel good about themselves. ive come to expect it and ignore it. if they really wanna be low-lives i say let them. like citdog for example.
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Re: The FCS Elimination Game

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Liberty +
Montana -

Albany 16
Appalachian State 74
Arkansas PB 10
Bryant 27
Butler 23
Central Connecticut 21
Delaware 85
Duquesne 33
Eastern Washington 45
Elon 30
Fordham 11
Gardner-Webb 51
Georgetown 12
Georgia Southern 31
Hampton 7
Howard 10
Jackson State 11
Jacksonville State 48
Lafayette 11
Liberty 64
Marist 6
McNeese State 35
Mississippi Valley State 6
Missouri State 21
Montana 69
Montana State 13
Murray State 40
North Carolina Central 9
North Dakota 20
Northern Arizona 36
Northern Iowa 36
Northwestern State 53
Sacramento State 68
Savannah State 10
South Dakota State 17
Southern 17
Texas State 38
Towson 38
Wagner 31
Western Carolina 33
William & Mary 37
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Re: The FCS Elimination Game

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Wagner :thumb:
Liberty :thumbdown:


Albany 16
Appalachian State 74
Arkansas PB 10
Bryant 27
Butler 23
Central Connecticut 21
Delaware 85
Duquesne 33
Eastern Washington 45
Elon 30
Fordham 11
Gardner-Webb 51
Georgetown 12
Georgia Southern 31
Hampton 7
Howard 10
Jackson State 11
Jacksonville State 48
Lafayette 11
Liberty 63
Marist 6
McNeese State 35
Mississippi Valley State 6
Missouri State 21
Montana 69
Montana State 13
Murray State 40
North Carolina Central 9
North Dakota 20
Northern Arizona 36
Northern Iowa 36
Northwestern State 53
Sacramento State 68
Savannah State 10
South Dakota State 17
Southern 17
Texas State 38
Towson 38
Wagner 32
Western Carolina 33
William & Mary 37
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Re: The FCS Elimination Game

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W&M +
Marist -

Albany 16
Appalachian State 74
Arkansas PB 10
Bryant 27
Butler 23
Central Connecticut 21
Delaware 85
Duquesne 33
Eastern Washington 45
Elon 30
Fordham 11
Gardner-Webb 51
Georgetown 12
Georgia Southern 31
Hampton 7
Howard 10
Jackson State 11
Jacksonville State 48
Lafayette 11
Liberty 63
Marist 5
McNeese State 35
Mississippi Valley State 6
Missouri State 21
Montana 69
Montana State 13
Murray State 40
North Carolina Central 9
North Dakota 20
Northern Arizona 36
Northern Iowa 36
Northwestern State 53
Sacramento State 68
Savannah State 10
South Dakota State 17
Southern 17
Texas State 38
Towson 38
Wagner 32
Western Carolina 33
William & Mary 38
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Re: The FCS Elimination Game

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+MO State
-Liberty

Albany 16
Appalachian State 74
Arkansas PB 10
Bryant 27
Butler 23
Central Connecticut 21
Delaware 85
Duquesne 33
Eastern Washington 45
Elon 30
Fordham 11
Gardner-Webb 51
Georgetown 12
Georgia Southern 31
Hampton 7
Howard 10
Jackson State 11
Jacksonville State 48
Lafayette 11
Liberty 62
Marist 5
McNeese State 35
Mississippi Valley State 6
Missouri State 22
Montana 69
Montana State 13
Murray State 40
North Carolina Central 9
North Dakota 20
Northern Arizona 36
Northern Iowa 36
Northwestern State 53
Sacramento State 68
Savannah State 10
South Dakota State 17
Southern 17
Texas State 38
Towson 38
Wagner 32
Western Carolina 33
William & Mary 38
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Re: The FCS Elimination Game

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Liberty +
Montana -

Albany 16
Appalachian State 74
Arkansas PB 10
Bryant 27
Butler 23
Central Connecticut 21
Delaware 85
Duquesne 33
Eastern Washington 45
Elon 30
Fordham 11
Gardner-Webb 51
Georgetown 12
Georgia Southern 31
Hampton 7
Howard 10
Jackson State 11
Jacksonville State 48
Lafayette 11
Liberty 63
Marist 5
McNeese State 35
Mississippi Valley State 6
Missouri State 22
Montana 68
Montana State 13
Murray State 40
North Carolina Central 9
North Dakota 20
Northern Arizona 36
Northern Iowa 36
Northwestern State 53
Sacramento State 68
Savannah State 10
South Dakota State 17
Southern 17
Texas State 38
Towson 38
Wagner 32
Western Carolina 33
William & Mary 38
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Re: The FCS Elimination Game

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GW :thumb:
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Albany 16
Appalachian State 74
Arkansas PB 10
Bryant 27
Butler 23
Central Connecticut 21
Delaware 85
Duquesne 33
Eastern Washington 45
Elon 30
Fordham 11
Gardner-Webb 52
Georgetown 12
Georgia Southern 31
Hampton 7
Howard 10
Jackson State 11
Jacksonville State 48
Lafayette 11
Liberty 63
Marist 5
McNeese State 35
Mississippi Valley State 6
Missouri State 22
Montana 68
Montana State 13
Murray State 40
North Carolina Central 9
North Dakota 20
Northern Arizona 36
Northern Iowa 36
Northwestern State 53
Sacramento State 68
Savannah State 10
South Dakota State 17
Southern 17
Texas State 38
Towson 38
Wagner 32
Western Carolina 32
William & Mary 38
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+ Liberty
- Montana

Albany 16
Appalachian State 74
Arkansas PB 10
Bryant 27
Butler 23
Central Connecticut 21
Delaware 85
Duquesne 33
Eastern Washington 45
Elon 30
Fordham 11
Gardner-Webb 52
Georgetown 12
Georgia Southern 31
Hampton 7
Howard 10
Jackson State 11
Jacksonville State 48
Lafayette 11
Liberty 64
Marist 5
McNeese State 35
Mississippi Valley State 6
Missouri State 22
Montana 67
Montana State 13
Murray State 40
North Carolina Central 9
North Dakota 20
Northern Arizona 36
Northern Iowa 36
Northwestern State 53
Sacramento State 68
Savannah State 10
South Dakota State 17
Southern 17
Texas State 38
Towson 38
Wagner 32
Western Carolina 32
William & Mary 38
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Re: The FCS Elimination Game

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Elon +
NC Central -

Albany 16
Appalachian State 74
Arkansas PB 10
Bryant 27
Butler 23
Central Connecticut 21
Delaware 85
Duquesne 33
Eastern Washington 45
Elon 31
Fordham 11
Gardner-Webb 52
Georgetown 12
Georgia Southern 31
Hampton 7
Howard 10
Jackson State 11
Jacksonville State 48
Lafayette 11
Liberty 64
Marist 5
McNeese State 35
Mississippi Valley State 6
Missouri State 22
Montana 67
Montana State 13
Murray State 40
North Carolina Central 8
North Dakota 20
Northern Arizona 36
Northern Iowa 36
Northwestern State 53
Sacramento State 68
Savannah State 10
South Dakota State 17
Southern 17
Texas State 38
Towson 38
Wagner 32
Western Carolina 32
William & Mary 38
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Re: The FCS Elimination Game

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App State :thumb:
NC Central :thumbdown:


Albany 16
Appalachian State 75
Arkansas PB 10
Bryant 27
Butler 23
Central Connecticut 21
Delaware 85
Duquesne 33
Eastern Washington 45
Elon 31
Fordham 11
Gardner-Webb 52
Georgetown 12
Georgia Southern 31
Hampton 7
Howard 10
Jackson State 11
Jacksonville State 48
Lafayette 11
Liberty 64
Marist 5
McNeese State 35
Mississippi Valley State 6
Missouri State 22
Montana 67
Montana State 13
Murray State 40
North Carolina Central 7
North Dakota 20
Northern Arizona 36
Northern Iowa 36
Northwestern State 53
Sacramento State 68
Savannah State 10
South Dakota State 17
Southern 17
Texas State 38
Towson 38
Wagner 32
Western Carolina 32
William & Mary 38
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Re: The FCS Elimination Game

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App State +
Arkansas PB -


Albany 16
Appalachian State 76
Arkansas PB 9
Bryant 27
Butler 23
Central Connecticut 21
Delaware 85
Duquesne 33
Eastern Washington 45
Elon 31
Fordham 11
Gardner-Webb 52
Georgetown 12
Georgia Southern 31
Hampton 7
Howard 10
Jackson State 11
Jacksonville State 48
Lafayette 11
Liberty 64
Marist 5
McNeese State 35
Mississippi Valley State 6
Missouri State 22
Montana 67
Montana State 13
Murray State 40
North Carolina Central 7
North Dakota 20
Northern Arizona 36
Northern Iowa 36
Northwestern State 53
Sacramento State 68
Savannah State 10
South Dakota State 17
Southern 17
Texas State 38
Towson 38
Wagner 32
Western Carolina 32
William & Mary 38
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Central Connecticut +
Marist -

Albany 16
Appalachian State 76
Arkansas PB 9
Bryant 27
Butler 23
Central Connecticut 22
Delaware 85
Duquesne 33
Eastern Washington 45
Elon 31
Fordham 11
Gardner-Webb 52
Georgetown 12
Georgia Southern 31
Hampton 7
Howard 10
Jackson State 11
Jacksonville State 48
Lafayette 11
Liberty 64
Marist 4
McNeese State 35
Mississippi Valley State 6
Missouri State 22
Montana 67
Montana State 13
Murray State 40
North Carolina Central 7
North Dakota 20
Northern Arizona 36
Northern Iowa 36
Northwestern State 53
Sacramento State 68
Savannah State 10
South Dakota State 17
Southern 17
Texas State 38
Towson 38
Wagner 32
Western Carolina 32
William & Mary 38
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Re: The FCS Elimination Game

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kuntryboimike wrote:
rueful wrote:Clenz, dont want to quote your whole thing and waste space but,

Im not saying everyone shold bow down to Liberty. We aren't all idiots, we get the fact that our program has done nothing to show other fans "wow thats a good team". Believe us, we know the Big South is a joke, and we're not dumb. Im not trying to say everyone should become LU fans, I wasnt saying anything like that.

All I was saying was take a look at the "low down on liberty" thread. I get the fact that to some the thought of Jerry Falwell churns anger in them. But the guy who started the thread was just trying to talk football and look what happens. Its not everyone, its just a few people around the interwebs who think they are the first person to let us know that Jerry was controversial. I was on LU's debate team, and believe me Ive heard worse than anything I have ever read on a Football forum, typically from Cornell, and so im not trying to say we cant handle it. Im just saying we get it, most people hate Jerrys Guts. Lets move on, and talk some football. More of us would love to do that, but we also know 90% of the time its just going to result in a F*** you liberty thread.

And sorry about the grammar, Truth be told, I was a little tired and a few summer ale's deep at the time. Not all of use Crazy Baptists think Beer is "of the devil"
agree 100%. but then again some people have no lives and have to put down others to make them feel good about themselves. ive come to expect it and ignore it. if they really wanna be low-lives i say let them. like citdog for example.
rueful,

I understand what you are saying with your post, I do. Don't let people like citdog, or shitdog as he has been referred too as here more than a couple times, determine your opinion of the posters on this site. There is plenty of good football talk to be had here, there is just more smack to read than the other site. That isn't a bad thing. Trust me, it takes a bit to get used too, but once you learn what is and isn't a serious attack you are much better off. 99.9% of the smack on this board is sarcasm. The biggest problem with Liberty people here right now, at least the new ones, is that you have NO sense of humor about anything. I'm sure you get a lot of shit about Jerry from a lot of places, can you blame them at times though? I'm sure they go to far, but like I said before, anytime you support something that a bigot (yes, I firmly believe he was) founded it comes with the territory. That doesn't mean you believe some of the stupid shit that he taught/believed though, I get that.

If you want to talk football put guys like citdog on ignore, if you don't know how to do that here let me know I'll help. I didn't know until about a month ago and had to ask...since then I've put a couple people on ignore and the board is MUCH more enjoyable than it already was...and I already thought this was the best board I'm on. Learn to roll with the punches, and give it back, and the football talk will soon be all over in your eyes. Maybe that is why I see the football talk and you don't. I know what "smack" is actually smack and what is just sarcasm, and let it roll.


kuntryboimike is a perfect example of a Liberty poster who has been here for a while and rolls with the smack and gives it right back.


This is all another reason to read as many threads as you can on this site. The more you read, the more you understand each poster, and trust me don't let the title of the thread deter you from reading it. You WILL miss something good.
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Re: The FCS Elimination Game

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+ Montana
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Albany 16
Appalachian State 76
Arkansas PB 9
Bryant 27
Butler 23
Central Connecticut 22
Delaware 85
Duquesne 33
Eastern Washington 45
Elon 31
Fordham 11
Gardner-Webb 52
Georgetown 12
Georgia Southern 31
Hampton 7
Howard 10
Jackson State 11
Jacksonville State 48
Lafayette 11
Liberty 63
Marist 4
McNeese State 35
Mississippi Valley State 6
Missouri State 22
Montana 68
Montana State 13
Murray State 40
North Carolina Central 7
North Dakota 20
Northern Arizona 36
Northern Iowa 36
Northwestern State 53
Sacramento State 68
Savannah State 10
South Dakota State 17
Southern 17
Texas State 38
Towson 38
Wagner 32
Western Carolina 32
William & Mary 38
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clenz wrote:Im not saying everyone shold bow down to Liberty. We aren't all idiots, we get the fact that our program has done The more you read, the more you understand each poster, and trust me don't let the title of the thread deter you from reading it. You WILL miss something good.
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Re: The FCS Elimination Game

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+ Montana To repay Grizo
- Liberty

Albany 16
Appalachian State 76
Arkansas PB 9
Bryant 27
Butler 23
Central Connecticut 22
Delaware 85
Duquesne 33
Eastern Washington 45
Elon 31
Fordham 11
Gardner-Webb 52
Georgetown 12
Georgia Southern 31
Hampton 7
Howard 10
Jackson State 11
Jacksonville State 48
Lafayette 11
Liberty 62
Marist 4
McNeese State 35
Mississippi Valley State 6
Missouri State 22
Montana 69
Montana State 13
Murray State 40
North Carolina Central 7
North Dakota 20
Northern Arizona 36
Northern Iowa 36
Northwestern State 53
Sacramento State 68
Savannah State 10
South Dakota State 17
Southern 17
Texas State 38
Towson 38
Wagner 32
Western Carolina 32
William & Mary 38
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Re: The FCS Elimination Game

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+ Montana
- Liberty

Albany 16
Appalachian State 76
Arkansas PB 9
Bryant 27
Butler 23
Central Connecticut 22
Delaware 85
Duquesne 33
Eastern Washington 45
Elon 31
Fordham 11
Gardner-Webb 52
Georgetown 12
Georgia Southern 31
Hampton 7
Howard 10
Jackson State 11
Jacksonville State 48
Lafayette 11
Liberty 61
Marist 4
McNeese State 35
Mississippi Valley State 6
Missouri State 22
Montana 70
Montana State 13
Murray State 40
North Carolina Central 7
North Dakota 20
Northern Arizona 36
Northern Iowa 36
Northwestern State 53
Sacramento State 68
Savannah State 10
South Dakota State 17
Southern 17
Texas State 38
Towson 38
Wagner 32
Western Carolina 32
William & Mary 38
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