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The 20 Playoff teams will come from this list.

Eastern Washington
Montana
Montana State
Liberty
Delaware
Massachusetts
Villanova
William & Mary
Bethune-Cookman
South Carolina State
North Dakota State
Northern Iowa
Western Illinois
Robert Morris
SE Missouri State
Jacksonville State
Lehigh
Apppalachian State
Wofford
Furman or Georgia Southern (One will be eliminated in head to head matchup)
Stephen F Austin
New Hampshire

Thats 22 teams. There are other teams that can still be eligible, but have slimmer odds of being so. These teams even if they become eligible are likely on the outside looking in unless atleast three teams above become ineligible.

Cal Poly
Florida A&M
Central Conn State
Dayton
Jacksonville

These next teams have almost ZERO chance of becoming eligible or if they do ZERO chance of making the field.

Weber State
Richmond
Duquesne
Wagner
Colgate
Chattanooga
Central Arkansas
Old Dominion
Stony Brook (can technically win the Big South auto bid... but I dont think they will) :thumb:
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The Big South has an autobid if I'm not mistaken and Stony Brook can still win the Big South...so shouldn't they be on the list or am I missing something?
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youngterrier wrote:The Big South has an autobid if I'm not mistaken and Stony Brook can still win the Big South...so shouldn't they be on the list or am I missing something?
they all into the category of "In my opinion Liberty will beat them so it dont matter" :lol: :lol: :thumb:
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UNHWildCats wrote:
youngterrier wrote:The Big South has an autobid if I'm not mistaken and Stony Brook can still win the Big South...so shouldn't they be on the list or am I missing something?
they all into the category of "In my opinion Liberty will beat them so it dont matter" :lol: :lol: :thumb:
my thoughts exactly but still.... :D
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Sac should be on your "potentially eligible but no chance in heck" list. Technically, 6 D-I wins will do it, and we still have a shot at that.
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SuperHornet wrote:Sac should be on your "potentially eligible but no chance in heck" list. Technically, 6 D-I wins will do it, and we still have a shot at that.
No, it's 7 DI wins, not 6.
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Why is Cal Poly in the second group & not the first? They should get to 8-3 and they have the Montana win. Or are you guessing SUU's Great West title will pin them down (which I doubt since SUU will be ignored without 7 DI wins)?
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Mvemjsunpx wrote:Why is Cal Poly in the second group & not the first? They should get to 8-3 and they have the Montana win. Or are you guessing SUU's Great West title will pin them down (which I doubt since SUU will be ignored without 7 DI wins)?
'The Montana win' doesn't look so great. The TXST loss looks bad. They don't have much to hang their hat on, really. I think they might make it but it won't be easy, they'll need help from bubble teams.

If UM fails to make the playoffs, I think they're OUT.
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ToTheLeft wrote:
Mvemjsunpx wrote:Why is Cal Poly in the second group & not the first? They should get to 8-3 and they have the Montana win. Or are you guessing SUU's Great West title will pin them down (which I doubt since SUU will be ignored without 7 DI wins)?
'The Montana win' doesn't look so great. The TXST loss looks bad. They don't have much to hang their hat on, really. I think they might make it but it won't be easy, they'll need help from bubble teams.

If UM fails to make the playoffs, I think they're OUT.
Except that Montana is in the first group. It's a win over a playoff contender. Plus, they blew out an OK McNeese team in Lake Charles.

CP clearly has a better resume than FAMU, CCSU, Dayton, or Jacksonville & is at least on par with SCSU, WIU, & NDSU.
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Mvemjsunpx wrote:
ToTheLeft wrote:
'The Montana win' doesn't look so great. The TXST loss looks bad. They don't have much to hang their hat on, really. I think they might make it but it won't be easy, they'll need help from bubble teams.

If UM fails to make the playoffs, I think they're OUT.
Except that Montana is in the first group. It's a win over a playoff contender. Plus, they blew out an OK McNeese team in Lake Charles.

CP clearly has a better resume than FAMU, CCSU, Dayton, or Jacksonville & is at least on par with SCSU, WIU, & NDSU.
I'd say they're inbetween those two groups, actually. But to me SCSU is in the first group. WIU and NDSU are better of than Poly right now, IMO.
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Mvemjsunpx wrote:
SuperHornet wrote:Sac should be on your "potentially eligible but no chance in heck" list. Technically, 6 D-I wins will do it, and we still have a shot at that.
No, it's 7 DI wins, not 6.
While I don't think the committee has ever taken a 7-4 (6-4 DI) team, the language explicitly allows this possibility:
The won-lost record of a team will be scrutinized to determine a team’s strength of schedule; however, less than seven Division I wins may place a team in jeopardy of not being selected;
http://web1.ncaa.org/web_files/champ_ha ... otball.pdf

And if you meant in all practicality a team must have 7 DI wins to make it, I agree. But the potential is there.
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UNHWildCats wrote:
youngterrier wrote:The Big South has an autobid if I'm not mistaken and Stony Brook can still win the Big South...so shouldn't they be on the list or am I missing something?
they all into the category of "In my opinion Liberty will beat them so it dont matter" :lol: :lol: :thumb:
Loving that attitude...reminds me of last year...when we beat them ;)
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DukeJack wrote:
Mvemjsunpx wrote:
No, it's 7 DI wins, not 6.
While I don't think the committee has ever taken a 7-4 (6-4 DI) team, the language explicitly allows this possibility:
The won-lost record of a team will be scrutinized to determine a team’s strength of schedule; however, less than seven Division I wins may place a team in jeopardy of not being selected;
http://web1.ncaa.org/web_files/champ_ha ... otball.pdf

And if you meant in all practicality a team must have 7 DI wins to make it, I agree. But the potential is there.
you're right, the 7-win requisite isn't set in stone.
so yes, TECHNICALLY 6 wins could get you in.
but so could 4 or 5 wins, TECHNICALLY.
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These next teams have almost ZERO chance of becoming eligible or if they do ZERO chance of making the field.

Weber State
Richmond
Duquesne
Wagner
Colgate
Chattanooga
Central Arkansas
Old Dominion
Stony Brook (can technically win the Big South auto bid... but I dont think they will)
Let's see..if UCA wins their next two vs. McNeese and SHSU..wich is possible since they are at home..but not probable I will admit....then that gives them an 8-3 record with 7 division I wins. If they win out, should they be considered? A loss to SFA and Northwestern, both 4-1 in conference and Tulsa isn't that bad. A zero chance is kinda harsh don't ya think?
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If Dayton wins next week they will be 10-1, 8-0 PFL, 9-1 FCS with a win over top 25 and NEC champion Robert Morris. Dayton should receive an at large this year.
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ToTheLeft wrote:
Mvemjsunpx wrote:Why is Cal Poly in the second group & not the first? They should get to 8-3 and they have the Montana win. Or are you guessing SUU's Great West title will pin them down (which I doubt since SUU will be ignored without 7 DI wins)?
'The Montana win' doesn't look so great. The TXST loss looks bad. They don't have much to hang their hat on, really. I think they might make it but it won't be easy, they'll need help from bubble teams.

If UM fails to make the playoffs, I think they're OUT.
Don't forget that Cal Poly went on the road 5 straight weeks this season. This is not 5 bus trips. They flew to Texas, Louisiana and Virginia. They also played FBS Fresno State and bused 12 hours to Southern Utah during those 5 weeks. That takes a toll on a team.
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I really don't think the committee will want to set the precedent of taking a team that can't even put together 7 DI wins unless they absolutely have no choice.

I think we'd see a PFL team in before a six win team.
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Redwyn wrote:
UNHWildCats wrote: they all into the category of "In my opinion Liberty will beat them so it dont matter" :lol: :lol: :thumb:
Loving that attitude...reminds me of last year...when we beat them ;)
LU fans are worried.

Non-LU fans see us ranked higher and more competitive OOC, but we know it'll be tough.
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I know they're not supposed to, but if the committee conference counts, we're toast, because we'd be the fourth Big Sky team in (after EWU and the Montanas and figuring that we win a tiebreaker with Weber). That's the ECB factor at work. If they go strictly off of 6-win teams following GPI, we have a shot, albeit a small one. There are way too many deserving teams ahead of us in terms of record for a #16 or better GPI (which we had as of last week) to sneak us in. I'd love to see it, but it's incredibly doubtful at best.

We might even be lucky to get MSU in after they lose their last game. (And I'm already going on record two weeks ahead with THAT one.) If the committee plays it straight, MSU is in, but there's no guarantee that they won't ECB-screw the Sky.
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ToTheLeft wrote:
Mvemjsunpx wrote:Why is Cal Poly in the second group & not the first? They should get to 8-3 and they have the Montana win. Or are you guessing SUU's Great West title will pin them down (which I doubt since SUU will be ignored without 7 DI wins)?
'The Montana win' doesn't look so great. The TXST loss looks bad. They don't have much to hang their hat on, really. I think they might make it but it won't be easy, they'll need help from bubble teams.

If UM fails to make the playoffs, I think they're OUT.
No shit, huh? :dunce:
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Grizalltheway wrote:
ToTheLeft wrote:If UM fails to make the playoffs, I think they're OUT.
No ****, huh? :dunce:
His "they're" there refers to Cal Poly, not Montana.
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Grizalltheway wrote:
ToTheLeft wrote:
'The Montana win' doesn't look so great. The TXST loss looks bad. They don't have much to hang their hat on, really. I think they might make it but it won't be easy, they'll need help from bubble teams.

If UM fails to make the playoffs, I think they're OUT.
No shit, huh? :dunce:
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Mvemjsunpx wrote:
Grizalltheway wrote:
No ****, huh? :dunce:
His "they're" there refers to Cal Poly, not Montana.
Exactly.

Way to FoxNews my quote there, GATW. :P
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UCABEAR wrote:
These next teams have almost ZERO chance of becoming eligible or if they do ZERO chance of making the field.

Weber State
Richmond
Duquesne
Wagner
Colgate
Chattanooga
Central Arkansas
Old Dominion
Stony Brook (can technically win the Big South auto bid... but I dont think they will)
Let's see..if UCA wins their next two vs. McNeese and SHSU..wich is possible since they are at home..but not probable I will admit....then that gives them an 8-3 record with 7 division I wins. If they win out, should they be considered? A loss to SFA and Northwestern, both 4-1 in conference and Tulsa isn't that bad. A zero chance is kinda harsh don't ya think?
I just think its very unlikely they beat both McNeese and SHSU thats why I placed them in the "Almost ZERO chance of becomming eligible" If they do win both games they very well could be in at the expense of say South Carolina State... or even potentially SEMO if Jax state smacks them around bad enough.
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ToTheLeft wrote:
Redwyn wrote:
Loving that attitude...reminds me of last year...when we beat them ;)
LU fans are worried.

Non-LU fans see us ranked higher and more competitive OOC, but we know it'll be tough.
i figure on the guys who were there last year wanting some good payback and winning the first Big South title that has significant meaning is one way to do it. Should be a heck of a game though.
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