Saint3333 wrote:Wow let's review the math if those numbers are accurate, without Montana and ASU averaging $370K of revenue per playoff game (average of 4 per year the last 5 years) that takes the yearly playoff revenue from $2.5M to $1.0M. That is a 60% reduction in revenue.
Then add back the revenue from whomever would be hosting in there place
Their. Come on, I expect better from an NAU fan.
And yes, I'm sure whoever replaces the two big sugar daddies in the FCS would easily be able to replicate those profits.
yosef1969 wrote:If that's the "tell", then you have ASU, JMU, Liberty, and JSU, that's a solid four. Get some others to jump in like UD, ODU, UNCC, Ga State, Ga Southern and maybe a defector or two from SBC or CUSA and you have yourself I nice league.
In what way?
In a competitive, regional football kind of way. Programs that share some similarities but still diferent enough to make for a interesting and diverse league. UD might be a little too far north...
Someone would step up and fill a void...if it happened. Perhaps not to the extent that UM does, but there would be monies to be made....if the school is supported well.
In 2005, TXST hosted 3 playoff games. Problem is:
1 - stadium capacity was 15,218...although we overfilled
2 - our GA tickets were only $8; that kicked up to $12 for the playoffs ($5 for students)
Currently, our prices are
GA - $16 (doubled in 5 yrs time - the price of moving up, I guess)
Reserved - $18
If we sold out 3 playoff games.... that would genereate nearly a mill, but not a full mill, because we don't have the capacity, nor could they justify taking a $16 GA seat up to $25 or $30. Probably would be somewhere in the area of a $4 hike to each type, like they did in '05.
Point is, if you have a team with a good, solid, fanbase that will fill the stadium, the monies can be made...just not to the extent of what UM or ASU might. However, I don't see it becoming a desperate situation.
dbackjon wrote:
Then add back the revenue from whomever would be hosting in there place
Their. Come on, I expect better from an NAU fan.
And yes, I'm sure whoever replaces the two big sugar daddies in the FCS would easily be able to replicate those profits.
Really, so who are these schools that draw as many fans as ASU and Montana? The schools replacing them may generate 1/2 of that revenue. The average of ASU and Montana revenues for playoffs is $350K while the remaining venues averaged $170K last year.
Big McLargehuge wrote:
Their. Come on, I expect better from an NAU fan.
And yes, I'm sure whoever replaces the two big sugar daddies in the FCS would easily be able to replicate those profits.
Really, so who are these schools that draw as many fans as ASU and Montana? The schools replacing them may generate 1/2 of that revenue. The average of ASU and Montana revenues for playoffs is $350K while the remaining venues averaged $170K last year.
UD, JMU, ODU, and Liberty would fit the bill nicely, assuming they all stay FCS (highly unlikely). You're talking 80,000 butts right there, with stadiums still expanding. The only problem is, with the depth and competitiveness of the CAA, the chances of the first three all being seeded and hosting in a quarterfinal round is very slim.
93henfan wrote:UD, JMU, ODU, and Liberty would fit the bill nicely, assuming they all stay FCS (highly unlikely). You're talking 80,000 butts right there, with stadiums still expanding. The only problem is, with the depth and competitiveness of the CAA, the chances of the first three all being seeded and hosting in a quarterfinal round is very slim.
Yep. I was reading the 'zone this morning when someone pointed out that all four of the Virginia CAA schools (UR, JMU, ODU, W&M) are sold out today, as well as Liberty...which meant all the VA FCS schools playing at home this afternoon are sold out except VMI. The support is definitely here.
Personally, I'm happy with the program staying in the FCS. The only avenues that I would be happy with is if App joined Conference USA or as someone mentioned this earlier, it would be neat to see a group of 8-10 FCS teams make the jump and have their own conference. (App, Georgia State, UNC-Charlotte...)
AppStateAlumQC wrote:Personally, I'm happy with the program staying in the FCS. The only avenues that I would be happy with is if App joined Conference USA or as someone mentioned this earlier, it would be neat to see a group of 8-10 FCS teams make the jump and have their own conference. (App, Georgia State, UNC-Charlotte...)
The fellowship of the feasibility study is now meeting. Basically they're taking in the study info as it comes in, then will make their report for the Chancellor over the summer.
T-Dog wrote:The fellowship of the feasibility study is now meeting. Basically they're taking in the study info as it comes in, then will make their report for the Chancellor over the summer.
No question Marshall has struggled since moving to CUSA, but their overall record since moving to 1-A is ok. Record 107-62 for 63% winning % (28-44 in CUSA), 5 conference championships, 8 bowl trips and 6 bowl wins.
No question Marshall has struggled since moving to CUSA, but their overall record since moving to 1-A is ok. Record 107-62 for 63% winning % (28-44 in CUSA), 5 conference championships, 8 bowl trips and 6 bowl wins.
They have had one winning record (7-6, with the 7th win a bowl win against a MAC team) since the move to C-USA. This suggests that the ceiling for a team like Marshall is MAC-level quality. Hardly a ringing endorsement for move up
AppMan wrote:
No question Marshall has struggled since moving to CUSA, but their overall record since moving to 1-A is ok. Record 107-62 for 63% winning % (28-44 in CUSA), 5 conference championships, 8 bowl trips and 6 bowl wins.
They have had one winning record (7-6, with the 7th win a bowl win against a MAC team) since the move to C-USA. This suggests that the ceiling for a team like Marshall is MAC-level quality. Hardly a ringing endorsement for move up
Similar to a stellar schedule of A&T and Savannah State is hardly a ringing endorsement for staying the course. The decision to move up is so particular to one school, comparing one school's record after moving up to a school potentially moving up is useless. We both can make arguments supporting a move up and staying the course, neither necessarily correlate to ASU's situation.
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