ASUSandman wrote:
You know something. I'm betting the Field Turf people have actually done this before and have a pretty good idea how to put this stuff down so it stays in place. The exisitng strands are shaved off the backing (as shown in the photo) and the inserts are held in place with a commercial hot glue. The combined weight of the sand base and rubber pellets will make sure nothing comes up. Feel better now?
Pipe down Francis....if you have 4.4 speed, are a potential NFL recruit, and you're turning on a painted surface vs. one with a seam for every hashmark how would you feel? Are you going to turn a knee on paint or on one of several dozen seams put on the field?
I'm gathering these folks have done this before also braniac. I feel fine thankyouverymuch.
Give 'em Hell G8.
Appalachian State Mountaineers:
National Champions: 2005, 2006, and 2007 Southern Conference Champions: 1986, 1987, 1991, 1995, 1999, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, and 2012
NO DOUBT ABOUT IT! WE'RE GONNA SHOUT IT! NOTHING'S HOTTER THAN A-S-U!
ASUG8 wrote:
Pipe down Francis....if you have 4.4 speed, are a potential NFL recruit, and you're turning on a painted surface vs. one with a seam for every hashmark how would you feel? Are you going to turn a knee on paint or on one of several dozen seams put on the field?
I'm gathering these folks have done this before also braniac. I feel fine thankyouverymuch.
ASUSandman wrote:
You know something. I'm betting the Field Turf people have actually done this before and have a pretty good idea how to put this stuff down so it stays in place. The exisitng strands are shaved off the backing (as shown in the photo) and the inserts are held in place with a commercial hot glue. The combined weight of the sand base and rubber pellets will make sure nothing comes up. Feel better now?
Nope, I don't feel any better. You sounded like you had no idea what you were talking about.
Once again. I feel faitly confident the crew installing the surface has a little more insight and experience doing this than you. But if you feel froggy why don't you jump on over there and straighten 'em out. Since the method of inserting the logos and hash marks I described in my previous post came from one of those workers installing the turf, you may want to re think that whole "you sounded like you had no idea what you were talking about" line.
ODUalum11 wrote:
Nope, I don't feel any better. You sounded like you had no idea what you were talking about.
Once again. I feel faitly confident the crew installing the surface has a little more insight and experience doing this than you. But if you feel froggy why don't you jump on over there and straighten 'em out. Since the method of inserting the logos and hash marks I described in my previous post came from one of those workers installing the turf, you may want to re think that whole "you sounded like you had no idea what you were talking about" line.
ASUSandman wrote:
Once again. I feel faitly confident the crew installing the surface has a little more insight and experience doing this than you. But if you feel froggy why don't you jump on over there and straighten 'em out. Since the method of inserting the logos and hash marks I described in my previous post came from one of those workers installing the turf, you may want to re think that whole "you sounded like you had no idea what you were talking about" line.
it was a joke. relax.
I didn't realize sandman talked to the installers - that would have been good information to know, since I thought his knowledge might have been gathered from sleeping at a Holiday Inn Express.
For the record, I am not nor have I ever been a Field Turf installer so I have to plead ignorance on how it's put down. That's why I ask questions of those who are closer to it for my own education on the matter. Clearly you've been much closer to KBS and the turf install than my webcam viewing so I'll defer to your much greater knowledge base on the matter.
ASUG8 wrote:
Pipe down Francis....if you have 4.4 speed, are a potential NFL recruit, and you're turning on a painted surface vs. one with a seam for every hashmark how would you feel? Are you going to turn a knee on paint or on one of several dozen seams put on the field?
I'm gathering these folks have done this before also braniac. I feel fine thankyouverymuch.
Give 'em Hell G8.
OK sargent clueless let me make this as simple as possible.
Number One: THE TURF IS NOT CUT FOR LOGOS OR HASH MARKS. THERE ARE NO SEAMS IN THIS SURFACE EXCEPT WHERE THE YARD LINES AND SIDE LINES MEET.
Number Two: THERE ARE NO PAINTED SURFACES. IT IS ALL COLORED FIBERS. NO PART OF THE SURFACE HAS ANY DIFFERENT GRIP, OR THE LACK THERE OF, THAN THE REST OF IT.
Number Three: IF YOU HAD BEEN PAYING ATTENTION OVER THE PAST TEN YEARS YOU WOULD KNOW THESE NEW GENERATION SURFACES HAVE PROVEN TO BE FAR MORE RESISTENT TO KNEE AND OTHER JOINT INJURIES THAN NATURAL GRASS.
OK sargent clueless let me make this as simple as possible.
Number One: THE TURF IS NOT CUT FOR LOGOS OR HASH MARKS. THERE ARE NO SEAMS IN THIS SURFACE EXCEPT WHERE THE YARD LINES AND SIDE LINES MEET.
Number Two: THERE ARE NO PAINTED SURFACES. IT IS ALL COLORED FIBERS. NO PART OF THE SURFACE HAS ANY DIFFERENT GRIP, OR THE LACK THERE OF, THAN THE REST OF IT.
Number Three: IF YOU HAD BEEN PAYING ATTENTION OVER THE PAST TEN YEARS YOU WOULD KNOW THESE NEW GENERATION SURFACES HAVE PROVEN TO BE FAR MORE RESISTENT TO KNEE AND OTHER JOINT INJURIES THAN NATURAL GRASS.
You are dismissed!
I asked some simple questions of T-dog before you decided to jump in with your "insights".
When they rolled the field out it had no numbers or hashmarks on it, yet I watched a group of guys on the webcam make the yardage markers appear
- it's not exactly a 1080p feed, so it's difficult to tell what's going on hence the questions. The pic T-dog posted clearly shows a chunk of turf missing in the shape of a hashmark, which led me to think that they were installing the hashmarks as a separate piece. Colored fibers make sense, but they clearly weren't colored when they initially arrived at KBS but were colored afterward. Again, I was asking simple questions, and not of you. I've been "paying attention" to football since before you were likely a gleam in your father's eye.
What are they paying you for this install? Five, six bucks and hour? Thanks for the insight sandman.
OK sargent clueless let me make this as simple as possible.
Number One: THE TURF IS NOT CUT FOR LOGOS OR HASH MARKS. THERE ARE NO SEAMS IN THIS SURFACE EXCEPT WHERE THE YARD LINES AND SIDE LINES MEET.
Number Two: THERE ARE NO PAINTED SURFACES. IT IS ALL COLORED FIBERS. NO PART OF THE SURFACE HAS ANY DIFFERENT GRIP, OR THE LACK THERE OF, THAN THE REST OF IT.
Number Three: IF YOU HAD BEEN PAYING ATTENTION OVER THE PAST TEN YEARS YOU WOULD KNOW THESE NEW GENERATION SURFACES HAVE PROVEN TO BE FAR MORE RESISTENT TO KNEE AND OTHER JOINT INJURIES THAN NATURAL GRASS.
You are dismissed!
Seargent Clueless
I really don't care if it has seams as I: 1) don't have to play on it, and 2) have no idea (nor care to know) how field turf is installed. I actually agree with you that that the installers probably know what they're doing.
Nancy, your condescending post aside...my post was more making fun of G8 than anything (he's a really good guy). Get a grip, take your finger off CAPS LOCK, and chill out. It's all going to be ok, I promise.
Appalachian State Mountaineers:
National Champions: 2005, 2006, and 2007 Southern Conference Champions: 1986, 1987, 1991, 1995, 1999, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, and 2012
NO DOUBT ABOUT IT! WE'RE GONNA SHOUT IT! NOTHING'S HOTTER THAN A-S-U!
ASUSandman wrote:
OK sargent clueless let me make this as simple as possible.
Number One: THE TURF IS NOT CUT FOR LOGOS OR HASH MARKS. THERE ARE NO SEAMS IN THIS SURFACE EXCEPT WHERE THE YARD LINES AND SIDE LINES MEET.
Number Two: THERE ARE NO PAINTED SURFACES. IT IS ALL COLORED FIBERS. NO PART OF THE SURFACE HAS ANY DIFFERENT GRIP, OR THE LACK THERE OF, THAN THE REST OF IT.
Number Three: IF YOU HAD BEEN PAYING ATTENTION OVER THE PAST TEN YEARS YOU WOULD KNOW THESE NEW GENERATION SURFACES HAVE PROVEN TO BE FAR MORE RESISTENT TO KNEE AND OTHER JOINT INJURIES THAN NATURAL GRASS.
You are dismissed!
Seargent Clueless
I really don't care if it has seams as I: 1) don't have to play on it, and 2) have no idea (nor care to know) how field turf is installed. I actually agree with you that that the installers probably know what they're doing.
Nancy, your condescending post aside...my post was more making fun of G8 than anything (he's a really good guy). Get a grip, take your finger off CAPS LOCK, and chill out. It's all going to be ok, I promise.
In addition to not being a field turf expert, I'm also not a doctor - that being said, I think some mood stabilizers might be in order for our friend there.
ASUSandman wrote: I feel faitly confident the crew installing the surface has a little more insight and experience doing this than you. But if you feel froggy why don't you jump on over there and straighten 'em out.
It really is a pretty ugly stadium when you get down to it.
We're 202-61-5 playing there. The 31K fans that show up on fall Saturdays there don't seem to mind much.
I really don't care if it has seams as I: 1) don't have to play on it, and 2) have no idea (nor care to know) how field turf is installed. I actually agree with you that that the installers probably know what they're doing.
Nancy, your condescending post aside...my post was more making fun of G8 than anything (he's a really good guy). Get a grip, take your finger off CAPS LOCK, and chill out. It's all going to be ok, I promise.
In addition to not being a field turf expert, I'm also not a doctor - that being said, I think some mood stabilizers might be in order for our friend there.
Have a good weekend Mountaineer
You too man.
Appalachian State Mountaineers:
National Champions: 2005, 2006, and 2007 Southern Conference Champions: 1986, 1987, 1991, 1995, 1999, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, and 2012
NO DOUBT ABOUT IT! WE'RE GONNA SHOUT IT! NOTHING'S HOTTER THAN A-S-U!
It really is a pretty ugly stadium when you get down to it.
We're 202-61-5 playing there. The 31K fans that show up on fall Saturdays there don't seem to mind much.
Being honest, for a field that has a track around I don't think it looks that bad. And who cares when the product on the field is pretty good and successful?
ASUSandman wrote:
OK sargent clueless let me make this as simple as possible.
Number One: THE TURF IS NOT CUT FOR LOGOS OR HASH MARKS. THERE ARE NO SEAMS IN THIS SURFACE EXCEPT WHERE THE YARD LINES AND SIDE LINES MEET.
Number Two: THERE ARE NO PAINTED SURFACES. IT IS ALL COLORED FIBERS. NO PART OF THE SURFACE HAS ANY DIFFERENT GRIP, OR THE LACK THERE OF, THAN THE REST OF IT.
Number Three: IF YOU HAD BEEN PAYING ATTENTION OVER THE PAST TEN YEARS YOU WOULD KNOW THESE NEW GENERATION SURFACES HAVE PROVEN TO BE FAR MORE RESISTENT TO KNEE AND OTHER JOINT INJURIES THAN NATURAL GRASS.
You are dismissed!
I asked some simple questions of T-dog before you decided to jump in with your "insights".
When they rolled the field out it had no numbers or hashmarks on it, yet I watched a group of guys on the webcam make the yardage markers appear
- it's not exactly a 1080p feed, so it's difficult to tell what's going on hence the questions. The pic T-dog posted clearly shows a chunk of turf missing in the shape of a hashmark, which led me to think that they were installing the hashmarks as a separate piece. Colored fibers make sense, but they clearly weren't colored when they initially arrived at KBS but were colored afterward. Again, I was asking simple questions, and not of you. I've been "paying attention" to football since before you were likely a gleam in your father's eye.
What are they paying you for this install? Five, six bucks and hour? Thanks for the insight sandman.
I apologize for thinking this is a public forum and not realizing it's a private conversation between you two guys, with an occasional smart azz remark tossed in by that ODU clown. Perhaps if you had started your post "Hey T-dog" I might have understood the question was directed to him. I simply attempted to shed some light on the subject to which you call me Francis and tell me to pipe down. Then you take me to task for my "condensending" response. Nice....
You still obviously don't get the picture.
Of course chunks of turf are missing, of course they weren't colored when they initially arrived at KBS and of course they are separate pieces. If you had actually grasped the gist of my initial post you would have understood all that.
BTW, if you have been paying attention to football since before I was a gleam in my father's eye, you would be closing in on 60 years old. I'm quite confident you're more like 25. I don't do things like installing turf. I hire young bucks like you to do things for me. And what's with the WF moniker? No real App Fan would have a WF (or any other school's) logo associated with their name. This is from someone who grew up a WF fan, but once I walked onto campus I became 100% Mountaineer. What happens when we go FBS and play WF again? Who will your loyality be with?
ASUG8 wrote:
I asked some simple questions of T-dog before you decided to jump in with your "insights".
When they rolled the field out it had no numbers or hashmarks on it, yet I watched a group of guys on the webcam make the yardage markers appear
- it's not exactly a 1080p feed, so it's difficult to tell what's going on hence the questions. The pic T-dog posted clearly shows a chunk of turf missing in the shape of a hashmark, which led me to think that they were installing the hashmarks as a separate piece. Colored fibers make sense, but they clearly weren't colored when they initially arrived at KBS but were colored afterward. Again, I was asking simple questions, and not of you. I've been "paying attention" to football since before you were likely a gleam in your father's eye.
What are they paying you for this install? Five, six bucks and hour? Thanks for the insight sandman.
I apologize for thinking this is a public forum and not realizing it's a private conversation between you two guys, with an occasional smart azz remark tossed in by that ODU clown. Perhaps if you had started your post "Hey T-dog" I might have understood the question was directed to him. I simply attempted to shed some light on the subject to which you call me Francis and tell me to pipe down. Then you take me to task for my "condensending" response. Nice....
You still obviously don't get the picture.
Of course chunks of turf are missing, of course they weren't colored when they initially arrived at KBS and of course they are separate pieces. If you had actually grasped the gist of my initial post you would have understood all that.
BTW, if you have been paying attention to football since before I was a gleam in my father's eye, you would be closing in on 60 years old. I'm quite confident you're more like 25. I don't do things like installing turf. I hire young bucks like you to do things for me. And what's with the WF moniker? No real App Fan would have a WF (or any other school's) logo associated with their name. This is from someone who grew up a WF fan, but once I walked onto campus I became 100% Mountaineer. What happens when we go FBS and play WF again? Who will your loyality be with?
ASUG8 wrote:
I asked some simple questions of T-dog before you decided to jump in with your "insights".
When they rolled the field out it had no numbers or hashmarks on it, yet I watched a group of guys on the webcam make the yardage markers appear
- it's not exactly a 1080p feed, so it's difficult to tell what's going on hence the questions. The pic T-dog posted clearly shows a chunk of turf missing in the shape of a hashmark, which led me to think that they were installing the hashmarks as a separate piece. Colored fibers make sense, but they clearly weren't colored when they initially arrived at KBS but were colored afterward. Again, I was asking simple questions, and not of you. I've been "paying attention" to football since before you were likely a gleam in your father's eye.
What are they paying you for this install? Five, six bucks and hour? Thanks for the insight sandman.
I apologize for thinking this is a public forum and not realizing it's a private conversation between you two guys, with an occasional smart azz remark tossed in by that ODU clown. Perhaps if you had started your post "Hey T-dog" I might have understood the question was directed to him. I simply attempted to shed some light on the subject to which you call me Francis and tell me to pipe down. Then you take me to task for my "condensending" response. Nice....
You still obviously don't get the picture.
Of course chunks of turf are missing, of course they weren't colored when they initially arrived at KBS and of course they are separate pieces. If you had actually grasped the gist of my initial post you would have understood all that.
BTW, if you have been paying attention to football since before I was a gleam in my father's eye, you would be closing in on 60 years old. I'm quite confident you're more like 25. I don't do things like installing turf. I hire young bucks like you to do things for me. And what's with the WF moniker? No real App Fan would have a WF (or any other school's) logo associated with their name. This is from someone who grew up a WF fan, but once I walked onto campus I became 100% Mountaineer. What happens when we go FBS and play WF again? Who will your loyality be with?
Having met ASUG8 a few times I can assure you he's definitely older than 25...if for no other reason than I'm 29 and I know he's a lot older than me. He's also 100% Mountaineer, there's no questioning him on that.
What a silly string of comments this has turned into. I think the turf looks awesome and it's not even done yet. One thing I think we all can agree on is that it looks a hell of a lot better without the soccer/ field hockey lines on it.
Appalachian State Mountaineers:
National Champions: 2005, 2006, and 2007 Southern Conference Champions: 1986, 1987, 1991, 1995, 1999, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, and 2012
NO DOUBT ABOUT IT! WE'RE GONNA SHOUT IT! NOTHING'S HOTTER THAN A-S-U!
ASUG8 wrote:
I apologize for thinking this is a public forum and not realizing it's a private conversation between you two guys, with an occasional smart azz remark tossed in by that ODU clown. Perhaps if you had started your post "Hey T-dog" I might have understood the question was directed to him. I simply attempted to shed some light on the subject to which you call me Francis and tell me to pipe down. Then you take me to task for my "condensending" response. Nice....
You still obviously don't get the picture.
Of course chunks of turf are missing, of course they weren't colored when they initially arrived at KBS and of course they are separate pieces. If you had actually grasped the gist of my initial post you would have understood all that.
BTW, if you have been paying attention to football since before I was a gleam in my father's eye, you would be closing in on 60 years old. I'm quite confident you're more like 25. I don't do things like installing turf. I hire young bucks like you to do things for me. And what's with the WF moniker? No real App Fan would have a WF (or any other school's) logo associated with their name. This is from someone who grew up a WF fan, but once I walked onto campus I became 100% Mountaineer. What happens when we go FBS and play WF again? Who will your loyality be with?
I'm not really sure who put the sand in your vajajay, but that's none of my business. I'm not getting in a pissing match over turf installation. I appreciate your attempts to shed light on this highly complex topic, although it could have been accomplished without all the inherent sarcasm.
As for my my age, ASUMountaineer nailed it that although I'd like to be, I'm no longer 25 - you could try to hire me but I'm quite certain you couldn't afford me. As for the WF moniker, that's where I earned my MBA - I'll try harder to keep up with your complex postings better going forward. I haven't been to a WF game since '96, but I've traveled to a ton of ASU games since I finished there. My "loyality" lies with ASU.
Give 'em Hell G8.
Thanks for the insight sandman.
I haven't been to a WF game since '96, but I've traveled to a ton of ASU games since I finished there. My "loyality" 
lies with ASU.
