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Etiger (Ed Molen and Jacki Molen) We were at the game. It was epic!!!! One of the best. I have been involved in a few great comeback wins (IUP, Northeastern). THis wa by far my favorite. Hostile crowd, 4 and 29 and we socre. THe stadium went quite. The few hundred Towson fans there went Nuts!!! We had a great 4 hour ride home!!
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andy7171 wrote:Just listened tot he last 5 minutes on the Towson radio broadcast. Enders gets knocked out, Athens sacked, 4 th and 29, 63 yard TD with WR dragging players in the endzone!?!

Wake up HuskyAlum from AGS, Towson has a new all time finish! :shock:

Great game from all I've heard, 1000 yards of offense! My kinda game! :nod:
That 4th and 29 reception and run by Tom Ryan was nothing but pure burning desire. Hearthbreaking too from our perspective. But credit where credit is due. The kid really wanted it.
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Here's a video of the reception...

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mcveyrl wrote:Here's a video of the reception...

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BTW, that's our new AD running down the field at the 16 second mark. :nod:
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andy7171 wrote:
mcveyrl wrote:Here's a video of the reception...

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BTW, that's our new AD running down the field at the 16 second mark. :nod:
I wondered about that. That's pretty awesome.

Andy, did you cry when you watched this? I wanted you to cry.
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mcveyrl wrote:Here's a video of the reception...

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Thanks. I really needed to see that play from a different angle so that I was sure that it really did happen. :twisted: :twisted:
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CAA Flagship wrote:
mcveyrl wrote:Here's a video of the reception...

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Thanks. I really needed to see that play from a different angle so that I was sure that it really did happen. :twisted: :twisted:

You'll get no sympathy from most posters on here. If this is the most heartbreaking loss you have in the next five years, you're either not very successful or you won a bunch of championships...
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mcveyrl wrote: You'll get no sympathy from most posters on here. If this is the most heartbreaking loss you have in the next five years, you're either not very successful or you won a bunch of championships...
BS. How many teams lose "important" games when if ANY ONE of THREE different plays, where the probability is on your side, go your way, you would win? Yeah, the loss sucks. But I have a much bigger problem getting over the WAY we lost.
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CAA Flagship wrote:
mcveyrl wrote: You'll get no sympathy from most posters on here. If this is the most heartbreaking loss you have in the next five years, you're either not very successful or you won a bunch of championships...
BS. How many teams lose "important" games when if ANY ONE of THREE different plays, where the probability is on your side, go your way, you would win? Yeah, the loss sucks. But I have a much bigger problem getting over the WAY we lost.
That was a tough way to lose, but consider it a right of passage - we've all got our scars from really horrible losses (like oh say last January).

And (be honest here) - how insufferable would you guys have been if Saturday's situation had been reversed?
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CAA Flagship wrote:
mcveyrl wrote: You'll get no sympathy from most posters on here. If this is the most heartbreaking loss you have in the next five years, you're either not very successful or you won a bunch of championships...
BS. How many teams lose "important" games when if ANY ONE of THREE different plays, where the probability is on your side, go your way, you would win? Yeah, the loss sucks. But I have a much bigger problem getting over the WAY we lost.
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Rob Iola wrote:
CAA Flagship wrote: BS. How many teams lose "important" games when if ANY ONE of THREE different plays, where the probability is on your side, go your way, you would win? Yeah, the loss sucks. But I have a much bigger problem getting over the WAY we lost.
That was a tough way to lose, but consider it a right of passage - we've all got our scars from really horrible losses (like oh say last January).

And (be honest here) - how insufferable would you guys have been if Saturday's situation had been reversed?
First, blowing the lead you had would be hard for me to take as well. And I don't know the particulars of whether there were any plays that, based on the probability, should have gone your way and didn't, and it would have meant a different result. I'm sure you can dig up at least one play. But did you have three?

Honestly, I don't think we would have been THAT bad. First, it's Towson. Despite their win against us, I think there are still a lot of non-believers of them out there. Second, we play Nova this week, and you know how many of their fans are on this board. Nobody around to pick a pre-game fight with. If we had gone 7-1 and then beat JMU, THEN we would be unbearable.
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CAA Flagship wrote:
mcveyrl wrote: You'll get no sympathy from most posters on here. If this is the most heartbreaking loss you have in the next five years, you're either not very successful or you won a bunch of championships...
BS. How many teams lose "important" games when if ANY ONE of THREE different plays, where the probability is on your side, go your way, you would win? Yeah, the loss sucks. But I have a much bigger problem getting over the WAY we lost.

Your infancy is showing.

Somebody has already pointed out Villanova last year, but that was regular season.

If this had happened in the playoffs and you had the attitude you have now, wow...we'd be calling the hotline.

Just consider what JMU fans think of as one our most heartbreaking losses...

2007 we go to App. St., the defending champs. We are leading 27-19 with 7 minutes left. App kicks a field goal with 5 minutes left, we have the ball and are up 27-22. We go for it on 4th and 1 (or 2) in our own territory and get stuffed. IF we get that play, we can pretty much run the clock out. Instead, App scores with a minute left to go up 28-27. THEN we drive down inside their 10 and instead of kicking the field goal on 3rd down to win it, we run one more time - the fumble heard 'round the world ensues...IF we had kicked the field goal or IF J. Sullivan holds onto the ball, we probably win the game.

Not going into as much detail on this one, but in the 2006 playoffs we had an ELEVEN point lead going into the fourth quarter and blew it at Youngstown.

Again, if this is your most heartbreaking loss in the next five years, you're doing something wrong.
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Take it easy on the butterflys fellas. The Towson game was pegged as ODU's first CAA win. They had this one circled when the schedule came out. And with wins over Rhody and umASS, they were planning on winning big. All the hype they had last week stoked it even more.

Plus it was their homecoming. :lol:
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mcveyrl wrote:
CAA Flagship wrote: BS. How many teams lose "important" games when if ANY ONE of THREE different plays, where the probability is on your side, go your way, you would win? Yeah, the loss sucks. But I have a much bigger problem getting over the WAY we lost.

Your infancy is showing.

Somebody has already pointed out Villanova last year, but that was regular season.

If this had happened in the playoffs and you had the attitude you have now, wow...we'd be calling the hotline.

Just consider what JMU fans think of as one our most heartbreaking losses...

2007 we go to App. St., the defending champs. We are leading 27-19 with 7 minutes left. App kicks a field goal with 5 minutes left, we have the ball and are up 27-22. We go for it on 4th and 1 (or 2) in our own territory and get stuffed. IF we get that play, we can pretty much run the clock out. Instead, App scores with a minute left to go up 28-27. THEN we drive down inside their 10 and instead of kicking the field goal on 3rd down to win it, we run one more time - the fumble heard 'round the world ensues...IF we had kicked the field goal or IF J. Sullivan holds onto the ball, we probably win the game.

Not going into as much detail on this one, but in the 2006 playoffs we had an ELEVEN point lead going into the fourth quarter and blew it at Youngstown.

Again, if this is your most heartbreaking loss in the next five years, you're doing something wrong.
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CAA Flagship wrote:
mcveyrl wrote: You'll get no sympathy from most posters on here. If this is the most heartbreaking loss you have in the next five years, you're either not very successful or you won a bunch of championships...
BS. How many teams lose "important" games when if ANY ONE of THREE different plays, where the probability is on your side, go your way, you would win? Yeah, the loss sucks. But I have a much bigger problem getting over the WAY we lost.
Last year my team lost a rivalry game where they scored 2 game winning TDs in 2 minutes. Everybody's been there.
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tampajag wrote:
CAA Flagship wrote: BS. How many teams lose "important" games when if ANY ONE of THREE different plays, where the probability is on your side, go your way, you would win? Yeah, the loss sucks. But I have a much bigger problem getting over the WAY we lost.
Last year my team lost a rivalry game where they scored 2 game winning TDs in 2 minutes. Everybody's been there.

But there was no pepper spraying the football players after the ODU-Towson game. We all know that every SWAC game ends in a riot because they are HBCU teams. Right?
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mcveyrl wrote:
CAA Flagship wrote: BS. How many teams lose "important" games when if ANY ONE of THREE different plays, where the probability is on your side, go your way, you would win? Yeah, the loss sucks. But I have a much bigger problem getting over the WAY we lost.

Your infancy is showing.

Somebody has already pointed out Villanova last year, but that was regular season.

If this had happened in the playoffs and you had the attitude you have now, wow...we'd be calling the hotline.

Just consider what JMU fans think of as one our most heartbreaking losses...

2007 we go to App. St., the defending champs. We are leading 27-19 with 7 minutes left. App kicks a field goal with 5 minutes left, we have the ball and are up 27-22. We go for it on 4th and 1 (or 2) in our own territory and get stuffed. IF we get that play, we can pretty much run the clock out. Instead, App scores with a minute left to go up 28-27. THEN we drive down inside their 10 and instead of kicking the field goal on 3rd down to win it, we run one more time - the fumble heard 'round the world ensues...IF we had kicked the field goal or IF J. Sullivan holds onto the ball, we probably win the game.

Not going into as much detail on this one, but in the 2006 playoffs we had an ELEVEN point lead going into the fourth quarter and blew it at Youngstown.

Again, if this is your most heartbreaking loss in the next five years, you're doing something wrong.
I hear ya. But I'm a little unsure about the odds of converting a 4th and 1 against a team that absolutely needs the stop. It may be in your favor, but not by much. I will say that the fumble instead of a high probability field goal is a heart breaker.
I have said it for many years. The NFL is an 8-8 league with the exception of maybe 6-8 teams. And the difference between a 10-6 team and a 6-10 team is one low probability play occurring in each of 4 games. I don't have a problem with losing a game because of one "freak" play. It's when you had 3 opportunities with heavy odds in your favor go against you that puts sand in my bikini. It's like playing blackjack and standing on 20 while the dealer pulls a 5 on 16 three times to beat you.
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tampajag wrote: Last year my team lost a rivalry game where they scored 2 game winning TDs in 2 minutes. Everybody's been there.
Freak plays?
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BlueHen86 wrote:
mcveyrl wrote:

Your infancy is showing.

Somebody has already pointed out Villanova last year, but that was regular season.

If this had happened in the playoffs and you had the attitude you have now, wow...we'd be calling the hotline.

Just consider what JMU fans think of as one our most heartbreaking losses...

2007 we go to App. St., the defending champs. We are leading 27-19 with 7 minutes left. App kicks a field goal with 5 minutes left, we have the ball and are up 27-22. We go for it on 4th and 1 (or 2) in our own territory and get stuffed. IF we get that play, we can pretty much run the clock out. Instead, App scores with a minute left to go up 28-27. THEN we drive down inside their 10 and instead of kicking the field goal on 3rd down to win it, we run one more time - the fumble heard 'round the world ensues...IF we had kicked the field goal or IF J. Sullivan holds onto the ball, we probably win the game.

Not going into as much detail on this one, but in the 2006 playoffs we had an ELEVEN point lead going into the fourth quarter and blew it at Youngstown.

Again, if this is your most heartbreaking loss in the next five years, you're doing something wrong.
Great post.
And I should add that in terms of football, we're pretty young ourselves, so there are plenty of fans from more storied programs that probably have twice or three times the stories of heartache.
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The funny (peculiar not haha) thing is how quickly the momentum swung back and forth.
Towson scored a TD and got the 2 point conversion to pull within 35-32. Then the onsides kick. On Towson's first play, they ran it 11 yards to the ODU 45. We were reeling at that point. Then the momentum shift. Towson was stuffed on 1st down. Sacked on 2nd down and the QB was knocked out of the game. The backup QB was sacked on third down setting up the 4th and 29. And then we gagged. That's some high drama.
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CAA Flagship wrote:
mcveyrl wrote:

Your infancy is showing.

Somebody has already pointed out Villanova last year, but that was regular season.

If this had happened in the playoffs and you had the attitude you have now, wow...we'd be calling the hotline.

Just consider what JMU fans think of as one our most heartbreaking losses...

2007 we go to App. St., the defending champs. We are leading 27-19 with 7 minutes left. App kicks a field goal with 5 minutes left, we have the ball and are up 27-22. We go for it on 4th and 1 (or 2) in our own territory and get stuffed. IF we get that play, we can pretty much run the clock out. Instead, App scores with a minute left to go up 28-27. THEN we drive down inside their 10 and instead of kicking the field goal on 3rd down to win it, we run one more time - the fumble heard 'round the world ensues...IF we had kicked the field goal or IF J. Sullivan holds onto the ball, we probably win the game.

Not going into as much detail on this one, but in the 2006 playoffs we had an ELEVEN point lead going into the fourth quarter and blew it at Youngstown.

Again, if this is your most heartbreaking loss in the next five years, you're doing something wrong.
I hear ya. But I'm a little unsure about the odds of converting a 4th and 1 against a team that absolutely needs the stop. It may be in your favor, but not by much. I will say that the fumble instead of a high probability field goal is a heart breaker.
I have said it for many years. The NFL is an 8-8 league with the exception of maybe 6-8 teams. And the difference between a 10-6 team and a 6-10 team is one low probability play occurring in each of 4 games. I don't have a problem with losing a game because of one "freak" play. It's when you had 3 opportunities with heavy odds in your favor go against you that puts sand in my bikini. It's like playing blackjack and standing on 20 while the dealer pulls a 5 on 16 three times to beat you.
Back in 1992 we came back, down by 20 some points in the final 5-6 minutes of the game, up at IUP. We converted 3 onsides kicks to do so. AND after getting that third one, we fumbled the ball away, only to get it back on the very next play.

Suck on those statistical odds!

Converting a onsides kick is not impossible, ODU did it in the same game.

Converting a 4th down is not all that uncommon either.

It's a tough one to swallow, sure, but the impossible didn't happen.
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dbackjon wrote:
tampajag wrote: Last year my team lost a rivalry game where they scored 2 game winning TDs in 2 minutes. Everybody's been there.

But there was no pepper spraying the football players after the ODU-Towson game. We all know that every SWAC game ends in a riot because they are HBCU teams. Right?
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CAA Flagship wrote:
tampajag wrote: Last year my team lost a rivalry game where they scored 2 game winning TDs in 2 minutes. Everybody's been there.
Freak plays?
The last TD was similar to yours only not as far. Giving up two 60+ yard drives in less than two minutes is freaky (and defense)
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andy7171 wrote:
CAA Flagship wrote: I hear ya. But I'm a little unsure about the odds of converting a 4th and 1 against a team that absolutely needs the stop. It may be in your favor, but not by much. I will say that the fumble instead of a high probability field goal is a heart breaker.
I have said it for many years. The NFL is an 8-8 league with the exception of maybe 6-8 teams. And the difference between a 10-6 team and a 6-10 team is one low probability play occurring in each of 4 games. I don't have a problem with losing a game because of one "freak" play. It's when you had 3 opportunities with heavy odds in your favor go against you that puts sand in my bikini. It's like playing blackjack and standing on 20 while the dealer pulls a 5 on 16 three times to beat you.
Back in 1992 we came back, down by 20 some points in the final 5-6 minutes of the game, up at IUP. We converted 3 onsides kicks to do so. AND after getting that third one, we fumbled the ball away, only to get it back on the very next play.

Suck on those statistical odds!

Converting a onsides kick is not impossible, ODU did it in the same game.

Converting a 4th down is not all that uncommon either.

It's a tough one to swallow, sure, but the impossible didn't happen.
Yeah, that's pretty wild. I never said it never happens, I'm saying it is rare to have 3 death blows with high odds fail.
Re: onsides kicks, the difference is we knew the onsides kick was coming. Towson did not when we got it. That's a big difference. Converting 4th and 1 (or 2) is not uncommon, I agree. But I would like to see the odds of converting in that situation.
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tampajag wrote:
dbackjon wrote:

But there was no pepper spraying the football players after the ODU-Towson game. We all know that every SWAC game ends in a riot because they are HBCU teams. Right?
They do, that's how I got these lovely battle scars. If you think that's bad you should see our bowling tournaments.

I'd imagine a lot of weave-pulling and 10-inch nail scratching.
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