ODUfanRazor wrote:Ahhh yes, it just wouldn't be a thread about old dominion football without a little group of Delaware b.tches posting about how much "odu sucks" in it.
EVERY SINGLE F.CKING THREAD. I've never seen anything like it. Utterly pathetic. They are scared sh.tless of us, it's so blatantly obvious......I mean, why else would they need to post in evety odu thread? Because they aren't scared? Because they think we give a flying rat sh.t what they think of us??
Of course not. They are just trying to convince themselves that we won't soon be lapping them. We already passed them in the standings in our first freaking year. Now that we might actually have a semi coherent defensive coordinator?????
Watch out. Oh wait, I'm sure you'll just predict that we won't win a caa game again this year. Idiots. Any of you stupid little women wanna sack up and bet whether a. Odu or Delaware wins our game next year or b. Who finishes ahead of the other team in the standings.
What do you say sweethearts? Or are you just gonna keep acting like the little b.tches we've all come to know Delaware fans as? With a real defensive coordinator next year, odu is going to be even more dangerous than we were this past year, and we nearly won the freaking caa and took gsu to the wire. Can't wait for next year with a real defense. So any of you c.ckf.gs gonna take the bet?
State Line Liquors wrote:And you guys know I love ya'll, but do a few changes to the defensive staff at ODU really earn the distinction of being brought up in a discussion board for the whole of FCS fandom?
Not trying to act like I live in a trash can here, but these leftovers were meant for the ODU message boards, particularly with the playoffs still in full swing.
Meh. It took 13 games to prove to you that our offense was pretty good, after being told that we won't be able to move the ball on CAA caliber defenses. We heard all year that our defense is not top echelon. We were certainly in agreement with that. And now there is proof that the head coach believed it as well. Just passing on the confirmation, that's all.
Woah, woah, woah, stop the clock. I think I've been relatively kind to ODU in the grand scheme of things. And secondly, did anything about your offense change between the start of the season (or maybe when you played Delaware) and the end of the season that could potentially have had an impact in the overall quality of play or perhaps resulted in a change in view from a semi-independent observer???
ODUfanRazor wrote:
Watch out. Oh wait, I'm sure you'll just predict that we won't win a caa game again this year. Idiots. Any of you stupid little women wanna sack up and bet whether a. Odu or Delaware wins our game next year or b. Who finishes ahead of the other team in the standings.
What do you say sweethearts? Or are you just gonna keep acting like the little b.tches we've all come to know Delaware fans as? With a real defensive coordinator next year, odu is going to be even more dangerous than we were this past year, and we nearly won the freaking caa and took gsu to the wire. Can't wait for next year with a real defense. So any of you c.ckf.gs gonna take the bet?
As far as bets are concerned I'll wait until I see the schedule for 2012, see how things shake out with recruits and transfers, find out what's up with coordinators (our OC is, or was, in the running for the Columbia head job we hear, your DC job is up in the air presently), and evaluate the health of our teams going into the season in August.
I like your idea, but as a bettor I prefer to actually handicap rather than boast as an uninformed.
CAA Flagship wrote:
Meh. It took 13 games to prove to you that our offense was pretty good, after being told that we won't be able to move the ball on CAA caliber defenses. We heard all year that our defense is not top echelon. We were certainly in agreement with that. And now there is proof that the head coach believed it as well. Just passing on the confirmation, that's all.
Woah, woah, woah, stop the clock. I think I've been relatively kind to ODU in the grand scheme of things. And secondly, did anything about your offense change between the start of the season (or maybe when you played Delaware) and the end of the season that could potentially have had an impact in the overall quality of play or perhaps resulted in a change in view from a semi-independent observer???
Yeah, his name is Taylor Heinicke. Where have you been lately? All we heard after that Delaware game was how bad Demarco looked in that game which wasn't the first time we've heard that after games against quality opponents (see WM and Cal Poly in 2010 for reference). Seeing what Heinicke did against other CAA competition and seeing what he did in the playoffs (11 TD's in 2 games...10 passing, 1 runnin) it appears Delaware was fortunate they didn't have to deal with this true freshman. Bad news for Delaware is that they'll have to deal with him the next three years.
State Line Liquors wrote:
Woah, woah, woah, stop the clock. I think I've been relatively kind to ODU in the grand scheme of things. And secondly, did anything about your offense change between the start of the season (or maybe when you played Delaware) and the end of the season that could potentially have had an impact in the overall quality of play or perhaps resulted in a change in view from a semi-independent observer???
Yeah, his name is Taylor Heinicke. Where have you been lately? All we heard after that Delaware game was how bad Demarco looked in that game which wasn't the first time we've heard that after games against quality opponents (see WM and Cal Poly in 2010 for reference). Seeing what Heinicke did against other CAA competition and seeing what he did in the playoffs (11 TD's in 2 games...10 passing, 1 runnin) it appears Delaware was fortunate they didn't have to deal with this true freshman. Bad news for Delaware is that they'll have to deal with him the next three years.
Jeeze man. Try to pick up on the context of an 1100 pound gorilla in the room.
ODUalum11 wrote:
Yeah, his name is Taylor Heinicke. Where have you been lately? All we heard after that Delaware game was how bad Demarco looked in that game which wasn't the first time we've heard that after games against quality opponents (see WM and Cal Poly in 2010 for reference). Seeing what Heinicke did against other CAA competition and seeing what he did in the playoffs (11 TD's in 2 games...10 passing, 1 runnin) it appears Delaware was fortunate they didn't have to deal with this true freshman. Bad news for Delaware is that they'll have to deal with him the next three years.
Jeeze man. Try to pick up on the context of an 1100 pound gorilla in the room.
Well you asked a question, thought you'd want an answer.
Also this wasn't just a knee jerk reaction to defensive breakdowns this season, this is a reaction to numerous lapses going back to ODU's first season in 2009....
In agreeing with another ODU poster over on CAAZone, I thought I'd copy and paste this over here....
Many bad games/series throughout the last three years on defense that stand out in my mind:
2009 Jax - Allowing them to get in range for a potential game winning field goal.
2010 Jax - Giving up that game clinching 3rd and 20+ from deep in their own territory.
2009 Fordham - Allowing them to drive the field for game winning TD in less than 2:00.
2011 Hampton - 42 points.
2009 Monmouth - Running the clock out on the ground on the final drive for the win.
2011 Georgia Southern - Ugh
2011 W&M - Couldn't slow Grimes
2010 Cal Poly - Ugh
2010 NCCU - Giving up 28 unanswered points
2011 UMass - Giving up 26 unanswered points
2009 VMI - Ugh
ODUalum11 wrote:
Well you asked a question, thought you'd want an answer.
Did you honestly think that I didn't know the answer to the question already? Anybody who takes the time to visit this message board and follows CAA football with even a shred of interest is well aware of Taylor Heinecke. Don't be so dense.
ODUalum11 wrote:
Well you asked a question, thought you'd want an answer.
Did you honestly think that I didn't know the answer to the question already? Anybody who takes the time to visit this message board and follows CAA football with even a shred of interest is well aware of Taylor Heinecke. Don't be so dense.
Alright so you're gonna ask a question, recieve an answer to the question you asked and then attack that person? FWIW, In a rational manner I was just answering your question.
State Line Liquors wrote:
Did you honestly think that I didn't know the answer to the question already? Anybody who takes the time to visit this message board and follows CAA football with even a shred of interest is well aware of Taylor Heinecke. Don't be so dense.
Alright so you're gonna ask a question, recieve an answer to the question you asked and then attack that person? FWIW, In a rational manner I was just answering your question.
Thank you for interrupting what otherwise was a good-natured, and informed, back and forth between myself and CAAFlagship with a public service message about crossing the street from Captain Obvious.
ODUalum11 wrote:
Alright so you're gonna ask a question, recieve an answer to the question you asked and then attack that person? FWIW, In a rational manner I was just answering your question.
Thank you for interrupting what otherwise was a good-natured, and informed, back and forth between myself and CAAFlagship with a public service message about crossing the street from Captain Obvious.
Wow man, I was just answering your question. If the answer was so blantantly obvious then why ask it? Also the earlier post was meant to be good natured and informative. In no way was I trying to start a pissing match. I'd like to think I'm not like other posters on here who all they do is start up pointless arguments.
State Line Liquors wrote:
Thank you for interrupting what otherwise was a good-natured, and informed, back and forth between myself and CAAFlagship with a public service message about crossing the street from Captain Obvious.
Wow man, I was just answering your question. If the answer was so blantantly obvious then why ask it? Also the earlier post was meant to be good natured and informative. In no way was I trying to start a pissing match. I'd like to think I'm not like other posters on here who all they do is start up pointless arguments.
Please wikipedia the term 'rhetorical question', and return to me with your findings. Within your findings please relate how this particular term (again, the term is 'rhetorical question') may have been applicable to my discussion with you here, and with my initial post to CAA Flagship about potential changes in one's viewpoint of the ODU offense from game 1 of 2011 to game 13 of 2011. Giddyup.
ODUalum11 wrote:
Wow man, I was just answering your question. If the answer was so blantantly obvious then why ask it? Also the earlier post was meant to be good natured and informative. In no way was I trying to start a pissing match. I'd like to think I'm not like other posters on here who all they do is start up pointless arguments.
Please wikipedia the term 'rhetorical question', and return to me with your findings. Within your findings please relate how this particular term (again, the term is 'rhetorical question') may have been applicable to my discussion with you here, and with my initial post to CAA Flagship about potential changes in one's viewpoint of the ODU offense from game 1 of 2011 to game 13 of 2011. Giddyup.
FWIW, you could have just simply just said it was rhetorical from the very beginning instead of attacking me personally. From what I read in that post I thought you sincerely meant it to be a honest question. I'm on here to have good natured discussions, not have pointless arguments like the one we're having now.
So then we're all in agreement. A fan of a school, like Delaware, who was skeptical of the Old Dominion offense at the beginning of the season and even still after the UD game, would be justified in having a different viewpoint at the end of the season. A primary reason for that change in viewpoint would be dramatically improved quarterback play for the Monarchs from some kid named Heinecke.
Haha, I forgot how fun reading message board banter was when rhetoric is involved. I guess in defense of some people they don't pick up on sarcasm as quickly without voice modulation to go with it.
cr8nb wrote:Haha, I forgot how fun reading message board banter was when rhetoric is involved. I guess in defense of some people they don't pick up on sarcasm as quickly without voice modulation to go with it.
"I can't control the tone of my own text"
I think if you take what STL asked earlier and sub out his screen name with 93's or even Razor's then I would have known it was rehortical....or sarcastic.
ODUalum11 wrote:I think if you take what STL asked earlier and sub out his screen name with 93's or even Razor's then
I would have known it was rehortical....or sarcastic.
True, I can see that. Still fun to read. I like the dynamic on here between team fans and I'm new to the whole FCS scene so don't take it personal. =]
But on topicish. As for the firing, I think it was a matter of time and we saw it coming for sure. Plus it makes a statement that crap won't fly. As for him being a prick comments. I'm not a big fan of how the arrogance come across with Wilder and such but I do like the swag (ugh, I hate that word and now hate myself as a person for actually typing it... but I'm not going to delete it) and it makes for conversation/controversy and both are good for marketing/pr any way you spin it.
You guys done?
SLL, yes DeMarco did not look good against Delaware. He had a bad game and had 1 or 2 bad games in previous years. But he had a bunch of great games to make me believe that there may not have been a dropoff (from the Heinicke led offense) to the point where you, or others, would think our offense is not good.
But this thread is about our defense which was not good. You guys knew it, we knew it, and now we know that Wilder thinks the same thing. Just wanted to let the FCS world know the latest developments.
cr8nb wrote: As for him being a prick comments. I'm not a big fan of how the arrogance come across with Wilder and such but I do like the swag (ugh, I hate that word and now hate myself as a person for actually typing it... but I'm not going to delete it) and it makes for conversation/controversy and both are good for marketing/pr any way you spin it.
That's pretty interesting to hear. I'm a big fan of Wilder's work in most areas. But there are certainly things that I don't like. Much of what I don't like stems from my "old school" mentality. I don't like his affection for black uniforms for example. I think he does come across as arrogant too often. So if fans of other teams call him a prick, I can't blame them. We see him all year long. They see him for a couple of days. A snapshot doesn't often tell the whole story.
I actually don't mind the black uni's. I do feel weird saying go blue when they wear them though. I'm not sure what the philosophy is on them and why he pushes for it other than maybe he's really into Johnny Cash? Psychological? Maybe he feels it gives the team a more aggressive tone wearing black? Shrug.
State Line Liquors wrote:And you guys know I love ya'll, but do a few changes to the defensive staff at ODU really earn the distinction of being brought up in a discussion board for the whole of FCS fandom?
There are more hits and posts on this thread than the GSU/Maine thread. Tell me which is more interesting to the FCS fandom? #Flagship
I actually don't mind the black uni's. I do feel weird saying go blue when they wear them though. I'm not sure what the philosophy is on them and why he pushes for it other than maybe he's really into Johnny Cash? Psychological? Maybe he feels it gives the team a more aggressive tone wearing black? Shrug.
I believe the philosophy is that each and every week the players have the choice of which uniforms they want to wear...thats at least what I remember hearing a while back...it's not neccesarily Wilder making the decision.
ODUalum11 wrote:
Alright so you're gonna ask a question, recieve an answer to the question you asked and then attack that person? FWIW, In a rational manner I was just answering your question.
Thank you for interrupting what otherwise was a good-natured, and informed, back and forth between myself and CAAFlagship with a public service message about crossing the street from Captain Obvious.
I'd like to think I'm not like other posters on here who all they do is start up pointless arguments.
Trying to create the never ending Do-loop.
