Big Sky vs. UND, are they out?

[JBB]

Look at the haters and the rable!

The only boards I am banned from are panther and saluki.

On one I talked about the New NDSU BISON Era.

On the other i spoke on the subject Should Dale Lennon Be Fired!

[Thumper 76]

Look at the haters and the rable!

The only boards I am banned from are panther and saluki.

On one I talked about the New NDSU BISON Era.

On the other i spoke on the subject Should Dale Lennon Be Fired!

Die you worthless piece of trash. I pray to God every night before I go to bed that you get lit on fire and then survive long enough to be hit by a truck and paralyzed from the neck down and drool all over yourself. That's hate. Go die please.
glad he's here to vent on once in a while though.........but seriously jabber.....go die.

[Lakes' Bi Son]

Look at the haters and the rable!

The only boards I am banned from are panther and saluki.

On one I talked about the New NDSU BISON Era.

On the other i spoke on the subject Should Dale Lennon Be Fired!

JBB, when are you going too accept youre own hate, and stoptransferring it to others? This thread was started out of hate, and it really hurts me to see you act that way. why don't you come over and we can discuss it. I got some herbal tea and a new electronic massager, we can have our own boy's night IN. It'll be super fun

[BisonBacker]

Just read the opinion piece written by Bradley. Not going to get into the hate fest but I have to chuckle at some of the comments on that blog as well as here. UND fans really like to lay blame to NDSU fans over comments made by whomever. I'm pretty sure that Bradleys opinion is echoed by at least some folks out west who question the travel costs. They just make no sense for schools who's Mens and Womens VB, BBall and softball teams have to travel. It is a budget nightmare and in this day and age of cutbacks who can blame them for questioning it? Guess the shoot the messenger mantra is still running strong up North. Oh and for UND fans who are telling fans of other schools of the BSC either like it or leave is quite comical.

[bincitysioux]

Interesting that it seems that it is mostly Sac St. fans that have a problem with North Dakota being in the Big Sky. I think you'd probably also find that Sac St. is probably the least desirable Big Sky program from North Dakota fans' point of view as well. The travel partner situation is problematic in the Big Sky. But Sac St. is just as "bad" an outlier to the rest of the conference as is North Dakota. It is a 10 hr drive from Sac St's closest opponent, Portland St. It is an 11 hr drive from North Dakota's closest opponent, Montana St.

[Wildcat Ryan]

Hey I got an idea, lets just see how things play out?

[SDHornet]

Interesting that it seems that it is mostly Sac St. fans that have a problem with North Dakota being in the Big Sky. I think you'd probably also find that Sac St. is probably the least desirable Big Sky program from North Dakota fans' point of view as well. The travel partner situation is problematic in the Big Sky. But Sac St. is just as "bad" an outlier to the rest of the conference as is North Dakota. It is a 10 hr drive from Sac St's closest opponent, Portland St. It is an 11 hr drive from North Dakota's closest opponent, Montana St.

We’ve just been the only one’s to say what everyone has been thinking. I’ve seen other posters question the UND addition but no other fan base has had a local reporter post an opinion piece on the disaster this UND add has been (at least that I know of). I am sure there are people at the other outlier BSC schools who aren’t too happy as well (I’m thinking PSU & NAU). If they are not happy now, then they will be when recruiting budgets or other athletic related budgets are reduced/shifted to make up for the added travel costs UND brings to the table.

I don’t think the BSC has released any hints at how the Oly sport schedules will look like with the 11 full time members. Maybe the BSC is smart enough to set up an unbalanced East-West type of scheduling to minimize travel but who knows. Either way you shape it, the UND add will cost every BSC member something, some more than others.

[AZGrizFan]

Interesting that it seems that it is mostly Sac St. fans that have a problem with North Dakota being in the Big Sky. I think you'd probably also find that Sac St. is probably the least desirable Big Sky program from North Dakota fans' point of view as well. The travel partner situation is problematic in the Big Sky. But Sac St. is just as "bad" an outlier to the rest of the conference as is North Dakota. It is a 10 hr drive from Sac St's closest opponent, Portland St. It is an 11 hr drive from North Dakota's closest opponent, Montana St.

I'm assuming here you're talking about OTHER than football?

[Darell1976]

Interesting that it seems that it is mostly Sac St. fans that have a problem with North Dakota being in the Big Sky. I think you'd probably also find that Sac St. is probably the least desirable Big Sky program from North Dakota fans' point of view as well. The travel partner situation is problematic in the Big Sky. But Sac St. is just as "bad" an outlier to the rest of the conference as is North Dakota. It is a 10 hr drive from Sac St's closest opponent, Portland St. It is an 11 hr drive from North Dakota's closest opponent, Montana St.

I'm assuming here you're talking about OTHER than football?

Unless its a traffic jam from Sac St to UC Davis.

[bincitysioux]

Interesting that it seems that it is mostly Sac St. fans that have a problem with North Dakota being in the Big Sky. I think you'd probably also find that Sac St. is probably the least desirable Big Sky program from North Dakota fans' point of view as well. The travel partner situation is problematic in the Big Sky. But Sac St. is just as "bad" an outlier to the rest of the conference as is North Dakota. It is a 10 hr drive from Sac St's closest opponent, Portland St. It is an 11 hr drive from North Dakota's closest opponent, Montana St.

I'm assuming here you're talking about OTHER than football?

Yes......

[BisonBacker]

Interesting that it seems that it is mostly Sac St. fans that have a problem with North Dakota being in the Big Sky. I think you'd probably also find that Sac St. is probably the least desirable Big Sky program from North Dakota fans' point of view as well. The travel partner situation is problematic in the Big Sky. But Sac St. is just as "bad" an outlier to the rest of the conference as is North Dakota. It is a 10 hr drive from Sac St's closest opponent, Portland St. It is an 11 hr drive from North Dakota's closest opponent, Montana St.

Even more interesting is that the AD out there used to be the AD at UND. Go figure. Guessing he may not have fond memories of his time up North

[bincitysioux]

Interesting that it seems that it is mostly Sac St. fans that have a problem with North Dakota being in the Big Sky. I think you'd probably also find that Sac St. is probably the least desirable Big Sky program from North Dakota fans' point of view as well. The travel partner situation is problematic in the Big Sky. But Sac St. is just as "bad" an outlier to the rest of the conference as is North Dakota. It is a 10 hr drive from Sac St's closest opponent, Portland St. It is an 11 hr drive from North Dakota's closest opponent, Montana St.

Even more interesting is that the AD out there used to be the AD at UND. Go figure. Guessing he may not have fond memories of his time up North

Where are the quotes from Wanless about his disapproval of UND in the conference?

[BisonBacker]

Even more interesting is that the AD out there used to be the AD at UND. Go figure. Guessing he may not have fond memories of his time up North

Where are the quotes from Wanless about his disapproval of UND in the conference?

Never said he made any comments. Just said it was interesting that he used to be the AD at UND and Sac State is the school mentioned by fans that has been opposed.

[Darell1976]

Even more interesting is that the AD out there used to be the AD at UND. Go figure. Guessing he may not have fond memories of his time up North

Where are the quotes from Wanless about his disapproval of UND in the conference?

Actually its the opposite. Wanless wanted UND in the Big Sky along with other AD's.
http://www.grandforksherald.com/event/a ... up/Sports/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Fullerton, however, said league solidarity is needed for any invitation offered by the Big Sky. Whether all the Big Sky presidents are in agreement that UND is a good fit for the league remains to be seen.

“If you can’t get all of the presidents going in the same direction, you don’t go in any direction,” Fullerton said. “We try and talk this thing around until we get everybody lined up. But we would rather delay (a decision) than to create something that would destabilize something we already have.”

Athletic directors from the Big Sky met earlier this month, Fullerton said. League expansion was discussed at that meeting as well.

“They (athletic directors) were very supportive of both Dakota schools,” Fullerton said.

This was before the invite. So UND has blessings from all the presidents and the AD's for joining...I guess the only people not happy are the ones that have NO say in things (some fans, and 1 dumbass media guy).

[BisonBacker]

I hope it works out for you guys I really do. On the other hand it will be interesting to see if more media folks echo his opinion once the travel budgets balloon for the BSC members. One thing is for sure. Home games for UND will have few traveling fans from opposing teams I'd bet.

[kemajic]

Where are the quotes from Wanless about his disapproval of UND in the conference?

Actually its the opposite. Wanless wanted UND in the Big Sky along with other AD's.
http://www.grandforksherald.com/event/a ... up/Sports/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Fullerton, however, said league solidarity is needed for any invitation offered by the Big Sky. Whether all the Big Sky presidents are in agreement that UND is a good fit for the league remains to be seen.

“If you can’t get all of the presidents going in the same direction, you don’t go in any direction,” Fullerton said. “We try and talk this thing around until we get everybody lined up. But we would rather delay (a decision) than to create something that would destabilize something we already have.”

Athletic directors from the Big Sky met earlier this month, Fullerton said. League expansion was discussed at that meeting as well.

“They (athletic directors) were very supportive of both Dakota schools,” Fullerton said.

This was before the invite. So UND has blessings from all the presidents and the AD's for joining...I guess the only people not happy are the ones that have NO say in things (some fans, and 1 dumbass media guy).

ADs that were in favor of adding both Dakota schools may not have been in favor of adding only one.

[Darell1976]

Actually its the opposite. Wanless wanted UND in the Big Sky along with other AD's.
http://www.grandforksherald.com/event/a ... up/Sports/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;







This was before the invite. So UND has blessings from all the presidents and the AD's for joining...I guess the only people not happy are the ones that have NO say in things (some fans, and 1 dumbass media guy).

ADs that were in favor of adding both Dakota schools may not have been in favor of adding only one.

Whats the difference? Grand Forks and Vermillion are 355 miles apart. I don't think travel was an issue I think it had more with the Montana's leaving the Big Sky.

[BisonBacker]

Actually its the opposite. Wanless wanted UND in the Big Sky along with other AD's.
http://www.grandforksherald.com/event/a ... up/Sports/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;







This was before the invite. So UND has blessings from all the presidents and the AD's for joining...I guess the only people not happy are the ones that have NO say in things (some fans, and 1 dumbass media guy).

ADs that were in favor of adding both Dakota schools may not have been in favor of adding only one.

Very true! Would be more than interesting to see how a vote would go now if it were just for UND. I wouldn't bet 1 dollar they would get the nod. Just can't see it for travel costs period.

[TheTruth]

It would be interesting on how a new vote would work out for UND. When Univ. of SD was in the vote traveling was an issue as well, but slightly less in that it was a 2 for 1 shot when traveling out to the Dakotas for athletic events. Also, Big Sky was told that the nickname and logo dispute for UND was resolved. As we all know, USD is gone losing the 2 for 1, and the logo/nickname is not resolved entirely. Both factors, I believe, would probably change the vote if it were held today.
It is to bad that these two factors are in play today, as I think UND would be a great fit in the Big Sky.

[SDHornet]

ADs that were in favor of adding both Dakota schools may not have been in favor of adding only one.

This.

[canyoncat]

I for one am looking forward to the addition of UND. They bring in a good tradition in all sports sponsored by the Big Sky Conference. I do wish that USD would have joined as well to give them a better travel partner and to even out the number of Big Sky schools playing football. They should be competitive right away with the upper half of the conference. Also looking forward to the addition of Cal Poly, Cal Davis and Southern Utah. It's going to be a fun year with all the new schools and teams we normally do not see as often.

[Darell1976]

I for one am looking forward to the addition of UND. They bring in a good tradition in all sports sponsored by the Big Sky Conference. I do wish that USD would have joined as well to give them a better travel partner and to even out the number of Big Sky schools playing football. They should be competitive right away with the upper half of the conference. Also looking forward to the addition of Cal Poly, Cal Davis and Southern Utah. It's going to be a fun year with all the new schools and teams we normally do not see as often.

We haven't played Montana State since 1983. UND beat MSU 21-3, and UND beat MSU in Bozeman 28-27 in 1982. Its been a long time and cannot wait to play you guys again. MSU holds a 14-13-1 series lead. Should be a fun game!!

[AZGrizFan]

I hope it works out for you guys I really do. On the other hand it will be interesting to see if more media folks echo his opinion once the travel budgets balloon for the BSC members. One thing is for sure. Home games for UND will have few traveling fans from opposing teams I'd bet.

Griz fans are everywhere. You will find that out in 2014.

[Darell1976]

I hope it works out for you guys I really do. On the other hand it will be interesting to see if more media folks echo his opinion once the travel budgets balloon for the BSC members. One thing is for sure. Home games for UND will have few traveling fans from opposing teams I'd bet.

Griz fans are everywhere. You will find that out in 2014.

Just like UND fans are everywhere including alumni which is throught the west.

[kemajic]

Griz fans are everywhere. You will find that out in 2014.

Just like UND fans are everywhere including alumni which is throught the west.

I counted at least 5 or 6 in Missoula for the '10 game.