FCS Program you'd most like to see become elite

[Wildcat Ryan]

Weber State

Basketball season is right around the corner...wait, are you still good in that or is it on the slide as of late too?

5 straight post season berths, I wouldnt call that a "slide"

[DSUrocks07]

1985: 9-2
1987: 9-1
1991: 9-2 (includes victory over national champion Youngstown St.)

Shhh...don't let facts get in the way of 89's belief that we've sucked for the entirety of our football existence

[UNI88]

I say UNI. I know I may get flamed, but I can't call you elite until you win it all--that's not to say that winning it all makes a team elite either (EWU). UNI is definitely the best program to never win it all, and when they do, they will certainly join the ranks of the elite. I'm hoping it's sooner rather than later.

Thanks Mountie!

[andy7171]

1985: 9-2
1987: 9-1
1991: 9-2 (includes victory over national champion Youngstown St.)

Shhh...don't let facts get in the way of 89's belief that we've sucked for the entirety of our football existence

They were fucked out of the playoffs in all those years too. After we got lobbied out of the postseason my senior year, I remember the Del State coach writing a letter to our head coach congradulating us on our season and that he understood how we feel not getting into the playoffs when you felt deserved. Classy move on his part IMHO.

[Gil Dobie]

Southern U

[89Hen]

1985: 9-2
1987: 9-1
1991: 9-2 (includes victory over national champion Youngstown St.)

Shhh...don't let facts get in the way of 89's belief that we've sucked for the entirety of our football existence

They were fucked out of the playoffs in all those years too. After we got lobbied out of the postseason my senior year, I remember the Del State coach writing a letter to our head coach congradulating us on our season and that he understood how we feel not getting into the playoffs when you felt deserved. Classy move on his part IMHO.

C'mon. Three decent seasons in several decades of football?

1985: 9-2 (includes a 56-21 loss to D2 Towson)
1987: 9-1 (a win over 4-7 Akron that was moving up from I-AA was their marquis win)
1991: 9-2 (includes a loss to 4-7 Liberty who ALSO beat YSU that year)

[93henfan]

Shhh...don't let facts get in the way of 89's belief that we've sucked for the entirety of our football existence

They were fucked out of the playoffs in all those years too. After we got lobbied out of the postseason my senior year, I remember the Del State coach writing a letter to our head coach congradulating us on our season and that he understood how we feel not getting into the playoffs when you felt deserved. Classy move on his part IMHO.

C'mon. Three decent seasons in several decades of football?

1985: 9-2 (includes a 56-21 loss to D2 Towson)
1987: 9-1 (a win over 4-7 Akron that was moving up from I-AA was their marquis win)
1991: 9-2 (includes a loss to 4-7 Liberty who ALSO beat YSU that year)

I stated they had some "decent teams in the late 80s/early 90s". Thank you for admitting I was right.

[89Hen]

I stated they had some "decent teams in the late 80s/early 90s". Thank you for admitting I was right.

"good again".

[93henfan]

I stated they had some "decent teams in the late 80s/early 90s". Thank you for admitting I was right.

"good again".

Beating the national champ while going 9-2 is good any way you slice it.

[DSUrocks07]

I stated they had some "decent teams in the late 80s/early 90s". Thank you for admitting I was right.

"good again".

so what's your definition of "good"

besides the question is who you want to see become "elite", my hierarchy is:

Elite
Great
Good
Decent
Bad
Terrible
OMFG DROP FOOTBALL ALREADY!!!

[kalm]

Idaho

[kalm]

Central Washington University

[89Hen]

so what's your definition of "good"

I know it's more than 3-4 "decent" seasons in 30+ years. Hey, I hope you guys do become good. I'd like nothing more than DSU to go 10-1 every year with the 1 obviously being to the Hens. The playoff game in 2007 was a blast.

[89Hen]

Beating the national champ while going 9-2 is good any way you slice it.

so what's your definition of "good"

I know it's more than 3-4 "decent" seasons in 30+ years. Hey, I hope you guys do become good. I'd like nothing more than DSU to go 10-1 every year with the 1 obviously being to the Hens. The playoff game in 2007 was a blast.

[DSUrocks07]

so what's your definition of "good"

I know it's more than 3-4 "decent" seasons in 30+ years.

Looks more like 3 "decent" seasons in a six year period to me, something I'm sure UD is familiar with

[Brock Landers]

Chadron State

Preferably in the next 3 weeks

[89Hen]

I know it's more than 3-4 "decent" seasons in 30+ years.

Looks more like 3 "decent" seasons in a six year period to me, something I'm sure UD is familiar with

If we measure "decent" differently. National Championship appearances vs beating a 4-7 move up Akron...

[Screamin_Eagle174]

I say UNI. I know I may get flamed, but I can't call you elite until you win it all--that's not to say that winning it all makes a team elite either (EWU). UNI is definitely the best program to never win it all, and when they do, they will certainly join the ranks of the elite. I'm hoping it's sooner rather than later.

I guess it depends on your standard for elite. EWU is one of 7 teams who have made the playoffs 5 times in the last 8 years, plus the NC. Two Buchanan winners and two Payton winners in that stretch doesn't hurt either

If anything, I'd consider us on the cusp. If we went deep or won another NC this year, I'd say that might put us over the edge.

[BlackFalkin]

I say UNI. I know I may get flamed, but I can't call you elite until you win it all--that's not to say that winning it all makes a team elite either (EWU). UNI is definitely the best program to never win it all, and when they do, they will certainly join the ranks of the elite. I'm hoping it's sooner rather than later.

WTF Bitch!? EWU is an ELITE team, and has been for a while.

[Seawolf97]

Bring back the Glory Days of the Fordham Rams Lombardi and company . That would shake up the PL.

[SuperHornet]

Ryan: rkw set a ground rule that for purposes of this thread, you can't pick your own team. You got another pick?

That said, since everyone knows I'm a huge Liberty fan (due to my attendance in the Distance Learning Program), I'll take up for Weber and Portland State. One of my UOP teammates played QB and WR at Weber, and another is the current HC at PSU.

As far as schools at which I DON'T have a connection, I'd love to see a return to glory for Youngstown....

[kalm]

Ryan: rkw set a ground rule that for purposes of this thread, you can't pick your own team. You got another pick?

That said, since everyone knows I'm a huge Liberty fan (due to my attendance in the Distance Learning Program), I'll take up for Weber and Portland State. One of my UOP teammates played QB and WR at Weber, and another is the current HC at PSU.

As far as schools at which I DON'T have a connection, I'd love to see a return to glory for Youngstown....

YSU is a good choice.

I would consider ASU, Montana, Delaware, and UNI the 4 elites.

YSU and GSU provisional based on historical success.

McNeese, EWU, NDSU, JMU, Richmond, New Hampshire, W&M, and Nova as close but something still to prove.

Up and comers with potential: Montana State, SHSU, SIU, Furman

Probably missed someone...

[bison07]

William and Mary is pretty close to elite already, IMHO. They're a top-half of the CAA team a lot of years.

I'd like to see Delaware State get good again, since we're stuck playing them every year now. Might as well have a contest if it's on your schedule.

I'm a bit fussier when it comes to my definition of elite. I think elite FCS team, and I think Montana, Delaware, GSU, App State. Maybe I left out a few teams, but those were the first four that came to mind. WM to me is in the 2nd or 3rd tier of FCS schools. Tier 1 being the upper crust and so on. I'd like to see them bump up a bit.

Interesting that you picked your rival. I've always been more of a 'destroy your rival' guy and less of a 'keep them relevant' guy. I like seeing the rival teams' fans being depressed.

UNI qualifies

[Screamin_Eagle174]

I'd like to see UND become elite solely for entertainment purposes.

[bison07]

Ryan: rkw set a ground rule that for purposes of this thread, you can't pick your own team. You got another pick?

That said, since everyone knows I'm a huge Liberty fan (due to my attendance in the Distance Learning Program), I'll take up for Weber and Portland State. One of my UOP teammates played QB and WR at Weber, and another is the current HC at PSU.

As far as schools at which I DON'T have a connection, I'd love to see a return to glory for Youngstown....

YSU is a good choice.

I would consider ASU, Montana, Delaware, and UNI the 4 elites.

YSU and GSU provisional based on historical success.

McNeese, EWU, NDSU, JMU, Richmond, New Hampshire, W&M, and Nova as close but something still to prove.

Up and comers with potential: Montana State, SHSU, SIU, Furman

Probably missed someone...

Agreed, this what I was thinking. Just because UNI hasn't went all the way don't make them not elite and just because NDSU has won one doesn't make them elite

Good post