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Re: Big Sky to have 5 playoff teams?

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dbackjon wrote:rival... SUU
Did not know that. :|
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Re: Big Sky to have 5 playoff teams?

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89Hen wrote:
dbackjon wrote:rival... SUU
Did not know that. :|
Respect them even more now...don't ya? :mrgreen:
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Re: Big Sky to have 5 playoff teams?

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kalm wrote:
89Hen wrote: Did not know that. :|
Respect them even more now...don't ya? :mrgreen:
Which one?
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Re: Big Sky to have 5 playoff teams?

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89Hen wrote:
dbackjon wrote:rival... SUU
Did not know that. :|

About the best we have - closest FCS team, on other side of Grand Canyon - we even have a trophy for the game :)
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Re: Big Sky to have 5 playoff teams?

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JemmieNation wrote:This could be a very tough year for a lot of very good teams who deserve the playoffs and don't get it. :coffee:
Meh. There will be as many, if not more, mediocre teams in this field than any other year.
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Re: Big Sky to have 5 playoff teams?

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dbackjon wrote:
SDHornet wrote: An NAU loss puts them at 7-3 (D2 win removed) making their most impressive wins being over a middle of the road Montana, middle of the road UND team and a terrible bottom tier FBS team (UNLV).

Compare that against a potentially 7-4 Sac State team whose best wins are against a terrible BCS team (Colorado), a ranked CP team, and a middle of the road SUU team.

If by some miracle the selection committee were considering those 2 for the last spot, who would get the nod?

7-3 >> 7-4 :)

NAU's Losses would be to Arizona State, playoff bound Cal Poly, and rival 5-6 SUU in triple OT.
Sac State's losses would be to playoff bound EWU and MSU, blowout loss to 5-6 or 6-5 UND, and a blowout loss to the worst team in FBS, New Mexico State, whose only win is against Sac
Meh. That was a week 1 game, a lot of new starters on both sides of the ball for us and a new offensive system was being implemented. If we were to play them at this point of the season, our 2nd stringers are in the game to start the 2nd half. :coffee:
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Re: Big Sky to have 5 playoff teams?

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Not saying its right but i think the BSC only gets 3 spots this year EWU, MSU and winner of CP at NAU. There will be 4 to 5 non-deserving teams making the playoffs, and good deserving teams like NAU, Sac ST, (SDSU or ISU i think the MVC only gets 3 too) are left out only because you know they are going to give invites to JMU, Richmond, and Vilianova. Top 3 southern teams are already locked in as far as im concerned and we're out of spots.
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Re: Big Sky to have 5 playoff teams?

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My thoughts on Sac getting in from SacBuzz.com based on a couple assumptions...



In the past, a 9-team BSC has landed three teams in post season play, why not four with 13 competitive (mostly) team? The only way WE have a snowball's chance to get in IMO is if Cal Poly rolls NAU and we destroy UCD.

Assume CP wins big and so do we, let's compare the resumes...

NAU
-7 DI wins (one Mountain West win)
-Home losses to SUU and CP
-Thrashing at the hands of a mediocre Pac 12 team (Lost at ASU 63-6)
-Narrow home victory against UCD
-2 game losing streak to end year
-0 wins against currently ranked teams

SAC
-7 DI wins (one PAC-12 BCS win)
-Road victory at SUU and home win against #11 CP
-Road pasting of UCD
-Five wins, two losses in last seven games to #1 and #3 ranked teams by a COMBINED 6 points
-1 loss all year against unranked FCS school or non-FBS school
-Full DI schedule

To be fair the committee may look at both of options and say, no thanks. BUT, should CP and SAC win, you can bet that for the first time, the Hornets can honestly say they are worthy candidates for postseason play.
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Re: Big Sky to have 5 playoff teams?

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Unfortunately, I think the Big Sky will only get three. MSU, EWU, and the winner of the Cal-Polu/NAU game...Although I do believe that all four of those teams deserve a shot.
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Re: Big Sky to have 5 playoff teams?

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Kadeezy wrote: To be fair the committee may look at both of options and say, no thanks. BUT, should CP and SAC win, you can bet that for the first time, the Hornets can honestly say they are worthy candidates for postseason play.
Thank God, another rational Hornet poster to attempt to counter balance SH's disproportionate playoff views. Now we only need about another 20 to break even.
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Re: Big Sky to have 5 playoff teams?

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Kadeezy wrote:My thoughts on Sac getting in from SacBuzz.com based on a couple assumptions...



In the past, a 9-team BSC has landed three teams in post season play, why not four with 13 competitive (mostly) team? The only way WE have a snowball's chance to get in IMO is if Cal Poly rolls NAU and we destroy UCD.

Assume CP wins big and so do we, let's compare the resumes...

NAU
-7 DI wins (one Mountain West win)
-Home losses to SUU and CP
-Thrashing at the hands of a mediocre Pac 12 team (Lost at ASU 63-6)
-Narrow home victory against UCD
-2 game losing streak to end year
-0 wins against currently ranked teams

SAC
-7 DI wins (one PAC-12 BCS win)
-Road victory at SUU and home win against #11 CP
-Road pasting of UCD
-Five wins, two losses in last seven games to #1 and #3 ranked teams by a COMBINED 6 points
-1 loss all year against unranked FCS school or non-FBS school
-Full DI schedule

To be fair the committee may look at both of options and say, no thanks. BUT, should CP and SAC win, you can bet that for the first time, the Hornets can honestly say they are worthy candidates for postseason play.
That's a bit of a biased look, don't you think? You forgot to note that NAU would still have a better conference record even in this scenario. You also neglected to mention that NAU beat NoDak on the road while Sac was crushed by them at home.
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Re: Big Sky to have 5 playoff teams?

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Mvemjsunpx wrote:
Kadeezy wrote:My thoughts on Sac getting in from SacBuzz.com based on a couple assumptions...



In the past, a 9-team BSC has landed three teams in post season play, why not four with 13 competitive (mostly) team? The only way WE have a snowball's chance to get in IMO is if Cal Poly rolls NAU and we destroy UCD.

Assume CP wins big and so do we, let's compare the resumes...

NAU
-7 DI wins (one Mountain West win)
-Home losses to SUU and CP
-Thrashing at the hands of a mediocre Pac 12 team (Lost at ASU 63-6)
-Narrow home victory against UCD
-2 game losing streak to end year
-0 wins against currently ranked teams

SAC
-7 DI wins (one PAC-12 BCS win)
-Road victory at SUU and home win against #11 CP
-Road pasting of UCD
-Five wins, two losses in last seven games to #1 and #3 ranked teams by a COMBINED 6 points
-1 loss all year against unranked FCS school or non-FBS school
-Full DI schedule

To be fair the committee may look at both of options and say, no thanks. BUT, should CP and SAC win, you can bet that for the first time, the Hornets can honestly say they are worthy candidates for postseason play.
That's a bit of a biased look, don't you think? You forgot to note that NAU would still have a better conference record even in this scenario. You also neglected to mention that NAU beat NoDak on the road while Sac was crushed by them at home.
And we beat SUU (dominated them in the 2nd half) on the road while NAU lost to them at home.
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I wouldn't exactly call a 3-TD spread "crushed." A decisive UND win, yes. But "crushed?" Not a chance. That would take another couple of TDs at least.
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Re: Big Sky to have 5 playoff teams?

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SDHornet wrote:
Mvemjsunpx wrote:
That's a bit of a biased look, don't you think? You forgot to note that NAU would still have a better conference record even in this scenario. You also neglected to mention that NAU beat NoDak on the road while Sac was crushed by them at home.
And we beat SUU (dominated them in the 2nd half) on the road while NAU lost to them at home.
Yeah, but he mentioned that already.
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Re: Big Sky to have 5 playoff teams?

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Kadeezy wrote:My thoughts on Sac getting in...
Unless there are a lot of upsets, you need to get that idea out of your head. It's more likely that NAU/CP loser will be left out than SacSt gets in.
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Sac has about the same chance to get in this year as Montana.
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The sky is best in the nation and should recieve 5 nods if Sac state wins this weekend. Id be willing to bet Southern Utah would knock off one of those bullshiit CAA teams.
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SDHornet wrote:
Kadeezy wrote: To be fair the committee may look at both of options and say, no thanks. BUT, should CP and SAC win, you can bet that for the first time, the Hornets can honestly say they are worthy candidates for postseason play.
Thank God, another rational Hornet poster to attempt to counter balance SH's disproportionate playoff views. Now we only need about another 20 to break even.
Come on, SD. All I'm saying is that IF it happens, the reasons I gave will be the likely reasons WHY we get in. I have no delusions that we actually WILL get in. Naturally, as a fan, I think we OUGHT to, but I realize that there are PLENTY of others, both here on the board and in positions where their opinions actually count, who will disagree. We are likely out, but we SHOULD be in, IMNSHO.
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SDHornet wrote:
SloStang wrote:SH is a Sac State fan. The only Poly poster commenting on this was me and I said that I was p!ssed in 1997, but understand and agree with it now.
SH is a Montana fan. Don't try and tie his association to us. :tothehand:
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Montana has enough problems. SH is a Liberty fan. They deserve each other. :nod:
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BlackFalkin wrote:The sky is best in the nation and should recieve 5 nods if Sac state wins this weekend. Id be willing to bet Southern Utah would knock off one of those bullshiit CAA teams.
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Kadeezy wrote:My thoughts on Sac getting in from SacBuzz.com based on a couple assumptions...



In the past, a 9-team BSC has landed three teams in post season play, why not four with 13 competitive (mostly) team? The only way WE have a snowball's chance to get in IMO is if Cal Poly rolls NAU and we destroy UCD.

Assume CP wins big and so do we, let's compare the resumes...

NAU
-7 DI wins (one Mountain West win)
-Home losses to SUU and CP
-Thrashing at the hands of a mediocre Pac 12 team (Lost at ASU 63-6)
-Narrow home victory against UCD
-2 game losing streak to end year
-0 wins against currently ranked teams

SAC
-7 DI wins (one PAC-12 BCS win)
-Road victory at SUU and home win against #11 CP
-Road pasting of UCD
-Five wins, two losses in last seven games to #1 and #3 ranked teams by a COMBINED 6 points
-1 loss all year against unranked FCS school or non-FBS school
-Full DI schedule

To be fair the committee may look at both of options and say, no thanks. BUT, should CP and SAC win, you can bet that for the first time, the Hornets can honestly say they are worthy candidates for postseason play.
even though asu has a mediocre record, they are still on a different planet than colorado
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So NAU should get credit for losing 63-6, but Sac's win shouldn't count?!? You actually expect to have your cake and eat it, too?

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SuperHornet wrote:So NAU should get credit for losing 63-6, but Sac's win shouldn't count?!? You actually expect to have your cake and eat it, too?

:lmao:
:roll: didnt say that.you put that in your comparison as sac state beating a pac 12 opponent vs nau being crushed by one. its not that simple
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jacksdude0109 wrote:
SuperHornet wrote:So NAU should get credit for losing 63-6, but Sac's win shouldn't count?!? You actually expect to have your cake and eat it, too?

:lmao:
:roll: didnt say that.you put that in your comparison as sac state beating a pac 12 opponent vs nau being crushed by one. its not that simple
It's not? Both are in the same BCS conference, one is middle of the road, one is a cellar dweller. Both have access to all the revenue the Pac-12 has. Both offer 85 schollies. Both games were on the road. If we are taking shit for losing game 1 to NMSU, you get to take shit for getting destroyed by a ho-hum Pac-12 team.
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Screamin_Eagle174 wrote:
SDHornet wrote: SH is a Montana fan. Don't try and tie his association to us. :tothehand:
:lol:

Montana has enough problems. SH is a Liberty fan. They deserve each other. :nod:
Fair enough. :lol:
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