But their run defense isn't all that great either!!!!! It's ranked 33rd nationally.Skjellyfetti wrote:Georgia Southern's secondary is extremely weak. ODU by 10+
Skewed because of the run-happy ToCon.dal4018 wrote:Ga.Southern's pass defense is ranked 44th.
Citadel beat Georgia Southern and only passed for 85 yards against them...
There were 27 passing yards COMBINED in the Georgia Southern - Wofford game.
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Again, skewed because of the run-happy ToCon. Their run defense is much more stout than their national ranking.dal4018 wrote:But their run defense isn't all that great either!!!!! It's ranked 33rd nationally.
They have one of, if not the best, D-lines in the country and a very good linebacker corps.
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Skjellyfetti wrote:Georgia Southern's secondary is extremely weak. ODU by 10+
Skewed because of the run-happy ToCon.dal4018 wrote:Ga.Southern's pass defense is ranked 44th.
Citadel beat Georgia Southern and only passed for 85 yards against them...
There were 27 passing yards COMBINED in the Georgia Southern - Wofford game.
Take out the UGA game and the Wofford and Citadel games...it probably evens out.
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dal4018 wrote:But their run defense isn't all that great either!!!!! It's ranked 33rd nationally.Skjellyfetti wrote:Georgia Southern's secondary is extremely weak. ODU by 10+
Skewed because of the run-happy ToCon.
Citadel beat Georgia Southern and only passed for 85 yards against them...
There were 27 passing yards COMBINED in the Georgia Southern - Wofford game.

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At least Pam Ward is no longer calling college games for ESPN. She did the JMU/EKU 1st round game last yr. The dyke bitch is awful.93henfan wrote:They always have some brawny lesbian color "man" for these FCS quarters. How can I skip that?
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So there is a God.BDKJMU wrote:At least Pam Ward is no longer calling college games for ESPN. She did the JMU/EKU 1st round game last yr. The dyke bitch is awful.93henfan wrote:They always have some brawny lesbian color "man" for these FCS quarters. How can I skip that?
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Interesting. I could be wrong, but I thought the 4 qtrfinal games televised on ESPN each the last 2 seasons (2 per season) were all on ESPN2 (I could be wrong).∞∞∞ wrote:This game is on ESPN at 12pm (ECB).
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Are either of the semis on ESPN (as opposed to ESPN2?)
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Good luck ODU
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Then they should be one of the stingier units in the country if they play in a run-oriented league.Skjellyfetti wrote:Again, skewed because of the run-happy ToCon. Their run defense is much more stout than their national ranking.dal4018 wrote:But their run defense isn't all that great either!!!!! It's ranked 33rd nationally.
They have one of, if not the best, D-lines in the country and a very good linebacker corps.
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Okay just three from now on.93henfan wrote:dal4018 wrote:But their run defense isn't all that great either!!!!! It's ranked 33rd nationally.![]()
There is no penalty. I'm picking up the flag, Dal, but I am giving you your final warning for excessive use of exclamation points. Next time it's 15 yards.
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Sadly, I think another 40 points will be scored in this game.Gil Dobie wrote:35-28 Old Dominion
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I dont see ODU stopping the TO but the good thing is we have Touchdown Taylor.
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Video of fans watching the last ODU-GSU game:CAA Flagship wrote:Sadly, I think another 40 points will be scored in this game.Gil Dobie wrote:35-28 Old Dominion
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6W7Hyf33M94[/youtube]
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I hear Jerry Moore's available for a consulting gig...93henfan wrote:Since I'll be the only sober person in this thread until tomorrow...
Some key points to this game:
1. Can ODU stop the TO? Can ODU get coached up for it? ....
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This one should be fun because it's the ultimate contrast in styles...
All things being equal, I'd rather be the team that traditionally runs the ball well than throws the ball well. I'm sure we've all heard the old saying about passing: "When you pass it, three things can happen, and two of those are bad." Granted, Heinicke generally makes good things happen, but if an offense is going to be unbalanced, I'd rather be the team that runs the ball well .
It's probably going to come down to one or two stops and I really think that's going to favor GSU because of the run game. There's less of a chance they're going to be playing behind the chains on 2nd and 3rd down whereas I think ODU will see more 2nd and 3rd and longs. Not saying they can't convert those, but it's more difficult to do so (see above re: passing). Also, really all I've seen of either team is our game against ODU and a large part of the limited success we had came from misdirection plays, which is what the TO is based on, so ODU will need to get better there - and probably has.
So, from a pure probability standpoint, I like GSU to make a stop or two more and win. But my gut still says ODU and I don't know why - maybe I'm fond of mascots dressed up like royalty...so, I'm officially hedging my bet.
All things being equal, I'd rather be the team that traditionally runs the ball well than throws the ball well. I'm sure we've all heard the old saying about passing: "When you pass it, three things can happen, and two of those are bad." Granted, Heinicke generally makes good things happen, but if an offense is going to be unbalanced, I'd rather be the team that runs the ball well .
It's probably going to come down to one or two stops and I really think that's going to favor GSU because of the run game. There's less of a chance they're going to be playing behind the chains on 2nd and 3rd down whereas I think ODU will see more 2nd and 3rd and longs. Not saying they can't convert those, but it's more difficult to do so (see above re: passing). Also, really all I've seen of either team is our game against ODU and a large part of the limited success we had came from misdirection plays, which is what the TO is based on, so ODU will need to get better there - and probably has.
So, from a pure probability standpoint, I like GSU to make a stop or two more and win. But my gut still says ODU and I don't know why - maybe I'm fond of mascots dressed up like royalty...so, I'm officially hedging my bet.
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I don't know what female came up with that saying, but there are clearly more than three things that can happen. Pass interference is a big factor in the passing game. And defensive pass interference/holding happens a lot more than offensive pass interference. Thus, the Bad/Good ratio is closer to even than the 2:1 ratio that was quoted. But I'm nitpicking.mcveyrl wrote: "When you pass it, three things can happen, and two of those are bad."

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CAA Flagship wrote:I don't know what female came up with that saying, but there are clearly more than three things that can happen. Pass interference is a big factor in the passing game. And defensive pass interference/holding happens a lot more than offensive pass interference. Thus, the Bad/Good ratio is closer to even than the 2:1 ratio that was quoted. But I'm nitpicking.mcveyrl wrote: "When you pass it, three things can happen, and two of those are bad."
It was either one of these feminists: Woody Hayes, Darrel Royal, or Bernie Moore.
http://quoteinvestigator.com/2011/10/04/pass-3-things/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
And I'll see your nitpicking and raise you more nitpicking.
I would equate defensive pass interference/holding to a completion and offensive pass interference/holding (because holding is another danger of passing plays) as an incompletion +. Considering that the offensive penalties also incur loss of yardage, their consequences outweigh defensive pass interference/holding (particularly in college where these penalties have limited yardage).
But, more to your point, there are bad things that can happen when you run the ball too, namely holding, fumble, etc. Also, a good result in passing generally results in more yardage than a good result in running. So, I'm not sure running outweighs passing that much, but I'd still rather be a proficient running team than a proficient passing team.
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A decent scrambling QB can more than offset negative penalty/sack yardage. I call all that a wash. But I think the spirit of the quote was what happens when the ball is in the air. The offensive penalties, scrambling, sacks, etc. are not a "result" of the ball in the air.mcveyrl wrote:CAA Flagship wrote: I don't know what female came up with that saying, but there are clearly more than three things that can happen. Pass interference is a big factor in the passing game. And defensive pass interference/holding happens a lot more than offensive pass interference. Thus, the Bad/Good ratio is closer to even than the 2:1 ratio that was quoted. But I'm nitpicking.
It was either one of these feminists: Woody Hayes, Darrel Royal, or Bernie Moore.
http://quoteinvestigator.com/2011/10/04/pass-3-things/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
And I'll see your nitpicking and raise you more nitpicking.
I would equate defensive pass interference/holding to a completion and offensive pass interference/holding (because holding is another danger of passing plays) as an incompletion +. Considering that the offensive penalties also incur loss of yardage, their consequences outweigh defensive pass interference/holding (particularly in college where these penalties have limited yardage).
But, more to your point, there are bad things that can happen when you run the ball too, namely holding, fumble, etc. Also, a good result in passing generally results in more yardage than a good result in running. So, I'm not sure running outweighs passing that much, but I'd still rather be a proficient running team than a proficient passing team.
Don't get me wrong, I love running. I like the Triple Option. I like the Veer. I like the Power I. Student body right. Etc. I just hate that quote.

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Whoever gets the ball last wins.
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If the game was played backwards, would it end after a couple of minutes?bluehenbillk wrote:Whoever gets the ball last wins.

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That female is Woody Hayes, genius.CAA Flagship wrote:I don't know what female came up with that saying, but there are clearly more than three things that can happen. Pass interference is a big factor in the passing game. And defensive pass interference/holding happens a lot more than offensive pass interference. Thus, the Bad/Good ratio is closer to even than the 2:1 ratio that was quoted. But I'm nitpicking.mcveyrl wrote: "When you pass it, three things can happen, and two of those are bad."
Oh, and I'll take GSU, 56-41. Something tells me Heinicke is going to throw an INT. Oh and GSU wants another go at the Bison.

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I don't care who said it. It is still inaccurate.rkwittem wrote: That female is Woody Hayes, genius.

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I just got a little defensive. Love Woody Hayes.CAA Flagship wrote:I don't care who said it. It is still inaccurate.rkwittem wrote: That female is Woody Hayes, genius.
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