It's against NCAA rules for boosters of a university to provide any benefit or advantage not afforded to other students simply because of their status as collegiate athletes. And the NCAA has no problem smacking down FCS schools for the smallest of infractions in that regard. So how is it okay for Phil Knight, one of if not the biggest booster in college football, to build a king's palace for football players at Oregon? Are those players not afforded that luxury not available to other students? How is it any different than handing prospective players handfuls of cash? Sorry for the rant, just read this article on the opulence of UO's new football facility. Ridiculous.
The Football Performance Center at the University of Oregon features rugs woven by hand in Nepal, couches made in Italy and Brazilian hardwood underfoot in the weight room that is so dense that designers of this opulent palace believe it will not burn.
This is Oregon football. There is a barbershop with utensils from Milan. And a duck pond. And a locker room that can be accessed by biometric thumbprints. And chairs upholstered with the same material found in a Ferrari’s interior. And walls covered in football leather.
Nike football leather, naturally.
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For Oregon football, black is the new black, down to the black toilets in the locker room that were described, perhaps in jest, as stealth. The athletes wanted it to look cool, and architects balanced their needs — down to the custom green PlayStation consoles and pool tables made by the same Portland company that designed two for Michael Jackson
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The foosball tables from Barcelona in the players’ lounge. The ventilation systems in each locker. The magic shelves that charge phones or tablet devices without the need to plug in. The 250-plus televisions.
Beyond the obvious, which is outrageous, these players will have to become pimps and drug dealers to live the same lifestyle after college. Not much of an educational experience.
and, i might add, consistent winners with just above average recruiting classes.
These guys have an in-your-face winning attitude (fans included), that, as a UW Husky fan,
I find arrogant with a little nip of jealousy. Even with Chip Kelly gone, the Damn Dirty Ducks,
as I call them, are primed for a title run every year. Players don't come to Eugene for the small
town charms. It's about winning and winning with style.
Aside from the hypocrisy, to me the sad part is what this money could be supporting regards
aid for needy outstanding students and promoting the local industry. I have many kin in the
Eugene area, are familiar with their communities and economy, and the Ducks are really all they have.
But hey, UO dodged a bullet with the Lyles mess, and you can be sure of due diligence if any
players are caught with undeserved benefits or special booster treatment. The NCAA IS WATCHING.
I will join in further indignation when the behemoth programs break away from the NCAA altogether.
hmmmm. Double standard? Some guy walks into the EWU AD and hands him a check for 60 large earmarked for football facilities only. I guess screamer would want to turn it down ?
Catattack wrote:hmmmm. Double standard? Some guy walks into the EWU AD and hands him a check for 60 large earmarked for football facilities only. I guess screamer would want to turn it down ?
Your missing the point. They're counting the # of grad assistants who make minimum wage and kids holding clip boards at an FCS school while Oregon kids have a full time pedicurist on site.
Another question: Montana was penalized for many things, including boosters giving free hot dogs to players. were those hot dogs not free to other folks as well?
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AZGrizFan wrote:Another question: Montana was penalized for many things, including boosters giving free hot dogs to players. were those hot dogs not free to other folks as well?
not to be a dick but you know the hot dogs were pretty far down on the list of infractions right?
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How do you think nice facilities at ANY level including FCS get built? Donor $$$ is the answer. Phil Knight and Boone Pickens for Okie St are just the 2 most wealthy guys that are rabid football fans and they put their $ where their mouths are. Stop being haters.
bluehenbillk wrote:How do you think nice facilities at ANY level including FCS get built? Donor $$$ is the answer. Phil Knight and Boone Pickens for Okie St are just the 2 most wealthy guys that are rabid football fans and they put their $ where their mouths are. Stop being haters.
bluehenbillk wrote:How do you think nice facilities at ANY level including FCS get built? Donor $$$ is the answer. Phil Knight and Boone Pickens for Okie St are just the 2 most wealthy guys that are rabid football fans and they put their $ where their mouths are. Stop being haters.
Catattack wrote:hmmmm. Double standard? Some guy walks into the EWU AD and hands him a check for 60 large earmarked for football facilities only. I guess screamer would want to turn it down ?
Your missing the point. They're counting the # of grad assistants who make minimum wage and kids holding clip boards at an FCS school while Oregon kids have a full time pedicurist on site.
What rules are they breaking ? Could an FCS school have the exact same thing, barbershop and all ?
kalm wrote:
Your missing the point. They're counting the # of grad assistants who make minimum wage and kids holding clip boards at an FCS school while Oregon kids have a full time pedicurist on site.
What rules are they breaking ? Could an FCS school have the exact same thing, barbershop and all ?
Again missing the point. It's not about whether rules are broken. You could go into any school and find infractions...just like you could go into any business and find OSHA non-compliance. Or... You could look at the financial crisis and think 'well... No laws were broken... So it must be an accident...'
Hint...it's about how rules/regulations and laws are written and how they're CHOSEN to be enforced.
FTR...I'm pro EWU receiving a big ass gift and using it to ruthlessly beat down the competition.
Screamin_Eagle174 wrote:It's against NCAA rules for boosters of a university to provide any benefit or advantage not afforded to other students simply because of their status as collegiate athletes. And the NCAA has no problem smacking down FCS schools for the smallest of infractions in that regard. So how is it okay for Phil Knight, one of if not the biggest booster in college football, to build a king's palace for football players at Oregon? Are those players not afforded that luxury not available to other students? How is it any different than handing prospective players handfuls of cash? Sorry for the rant, just read this article on the opulence of UO's new football facility. Ridiculous.
The Football Performance Center at the University of Oregon features rugs woven by hand in Nepal, couches made in Italy and Brazilian hardwood underfoot in the weight room that is so dense that designers of this opulent palace believe it will not burn.
This is Oregon football. There is a barbershop with utensils from Milan. And a duck pond. And a locker room that can be accessed by biometric thumbprints. And chairs upholstered with the same material found in a Ferrari’s interior. And walls covered in football leather.
Nike football leather, naturally.
...
For Oregon football, black is the new black, down to the black toilets in the locker room that were described, perhaps in jest, as stealth. The athletes wanted it to look cool, and architects balanced their needs — down to the custom green PlayStation consoles and pool tables made by the same Portland company that designed two for Michael Jackson
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The foosball tables from Barcelona in the players’ lounge. The ventilation systems in each locker. The magic shelves that charge phones or tablet devices without the need to plug in. The 250-plus televisions.
Because he is Phil Knight and there is a strong relationship between his company (Nike) and other universities across the country. Does he have the NCAA by the ****? Probably. But the NCAA does not want to risk alienating him and losing what all Nike does for the NCAA, not just for football but any other sport out there. Oregon State is getting a new style of football uniforms courtesy of Nike and Phil Knight. So is Portland State and Western Oregon. Maybe his "givings" do push the envelope. But who is going to pursue it?
Screamin_Eagle174 wrote:It's against NCAA rules for boosters of a university to provide any benefit or advantage not afforded to other students simply because of their status as collegiate athletes. And the NCAA has no problem smacking down FCS schools for the smallest of infractions in that regard. So how is it okay for Phil Knight, one of if not the biggest booster in college football, to build a king's palace for football players at Oregon? Are those players not afforded that luxury not available to other students? How is it any different than handing prospective players handfuls of cash? Sorry for the rant, just read this article on the opulence of UO's new football facility. Ridiculous.
Because he is Phil Knight and there is a strong relationship between his company (Nike) and other universities across the country. Does he have the NCAA by the ****? Probably. But the NCAA does not want to risk alienating him and losing what all Nike does for the NCAA, not just for football but any other sport out there. Oregon State is getting a new style of football uniforms courtesy of Nike and Phil Knight. So is Portland State and Western Oregon. Maybe his "givings" do push the envelope. But who is going to pursue it?
What is the hypocrisy, though, that has generated this thread and the seemingly "pure" outrage of people spending money? There isn't an NCAA rule anywhere that says that every member institution must play in the same level or quality of facilities and there was never an intention for there to be any such a rule. The NCAA has never been nor has it ever meant to be about leveling the playing field of any and all advantages that a school may have. It's never been the remit of the NCAA to determine what is an acceptable quality of facility, what is the allowable price tag of what can be spent on stadiums or other facilities. If we really thought the NCAA was or should be about that, why don't we also have the NCAA restrict the number of fans each team has? In order for there to be hypocrisy, there needs to be a stance the NCAA has that they aren't following. I think you could make the case in terms of them stressing that everyone is a "student-athlete" but that doesn't seem to be the point of this thread. Where is the hypocrisy in Oregon choosing to spend money on their program?
So....i don't know much about the set up at EWU but didn't they get a shit ton of money donated for Roos Field? Are all students at EWU allowed to use all parts of the facility?
clenz wrote:So....i don't know much about the set up at EWU but didn't they get a shit ton of money donated for Roos Field? Are all students at EWU allowed to use all parts of the facility?
If not all EWU students are allowed to use all parts of the football facility then you're the one missing the pointof how stupid the bitching is.
I didn't see you fucks bitching about the Alabama facility that was recently profiled
Sounds like butt hurt from fans who likely also cheer for UW or WSU
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All students are allowed to use all parts of Roos field and do so in a variety of ways on a weekly if not daily basis. I suggest re-reading my other posts in the thread in case you missed something else or still have unanswered questions.
(Btw, more than a few EWU fans hate the Cougs and Huskies and like seeing Oregon beat them. I'm guessing SE might fit that description)
I also don't remember you guys complaining about his contributions to the basketball facility...However, EWU sucks at basketball so you guys probably didn't care.
Do you also have problems with the millions of other dollars he's dumped into the university?
-$230 million to the University of Oregon
- an extra $100 million to the University of Oregon Athletics Legacy Fund
-$27 million for a library expansion/renovation
-enough money to have a new building at the law school named after his father
-an endowment for more than 2 dozen professorships.
-gave the largest donation in history at the time to Stanford's business school in 2006 (105 million dollars)
-provided monetary support to his high school alma mater, Cleveland High School, for its new track, football field, and gymnasium
-pledged $100 million to the OHSU Cancer Institute, the largest gift in the history of Oregon Health & Science University in 2008
