WAC Has its eye on 5 or 6 FCS Teams

[BigSkyBears]

So who else has SacSt beaten? 52-104 in 14 years in the weakened BSC and 0-14 against Montana. The WAC has to be savoring over this opportunity.... Maybe it's SacSt Bball that would be the attraction....

Again, winning isn't a prerequisite for a move to FBS. If that were the case nowhere near as many schools who have moved up in the past would have. Hell there are even a few teams who don't even field a team right now being considered as a possible FBS candidate for the WAC.

You're going to have a better chance of winning in the FCS, rather than the WAC. Besides, the WAC isn't much better than the Big Sky now that Boise is gone.

[Montanan]

like many folks here i have no idea what team(s) might be asked to join the WAC, if any. but, if and when any FCS team(s) are asked and accept, i wish them the very best in their new division/conference. Good Luck!

[mainejeff]

Do people REALLY think that the WAC isn't going to lose anymore teams???

[Green Cookie Monster]

like many folks here i have no idea what team(s) might be asked to join the WAC, if any. but, if and when any FCS team(s) are asked and accept, i wish them the very best in their new division/conference. Good Luck!

Hopefully all this talk has teams actually growing and making their program stronger. It's also fun to look at all the blueprints that suddenly appear on the boards.

[SloStang]

Do people REALLY think that the WAC isn't going to lose anymore teams???

La. Tech for sure.

[Herky]

Montana may be the heavy favorite, but they CANNOT afford the move (they just turned down fee hikes). Two additional sports, facility improvements due to the universities neglet of existing sports, additional scholarships, and having to stay Title IX compliant are going to make the move for Montana very difficult if not impossible at this time. I also remember hearing that it would be hard for UM to move without taking MSU.

My opinion, 1) UNC people , you arent even being considered and are the BSC doormat in everything other than basketball; 2) Although the realignment is football driven primarily, the entire athletic program will be taken into consideration and will be the determining factor; 3) TV market is going to be huge for the WAC (look at PSU and Sac State); 4) UCD just dropped 4 sports (they cannot and will not make the move, they cant justify it in any way!); 5) anything can happen!

[mainejeff]

Do people REALLY think that the WAC isn't going to lose anymore teams???

La. Tech for sure.

And Fresno State.

[CPAlum]

Well I am biased but I am guessing BSU and La Tech go and Sac St. and Cal Poly are new members. I would prefer UCD but I am not sure it is in the cards. Cal Poly is having a hell of a time scheduling games and I believe that their admin thinks this may be the best way to address this. Students have shown that they are willing to pay added fees to support athletics in the past and they have donors to help with facility upgrades.

[mlbowl]

3) TV market is going to be huge for the WAC (look at PSU and Sac State)

blah blah blah...Who gives a crap about a huge TV market area when nobody in the area wants to watch those teams

[Herky]

3) TV market is going to be huge for the WAC (look at PSU and Sac State)

blah blah blah...Who gives a crap about a huge TV market area when nobody in the area wants to watch those teams

Blah blah blah... Montana doesnt have enough sponsored athletic teams (only 14) and has upgrades to make to other sports programs and doesnt have the money for the move... Blah blah blah.

As of 2008, there were only 960,000 people in the entire state of Montana, there are more than twice that in the Sac Metro Area (1.93 million people in 2000). Hmmm, between the two, where could the most money be made in advertising? But youre right, blah blah blah. And we all know, no decision is going to be made because of financial prospects

Do you have anything to add, or do you just brush off the TV market point and leave it at that?

[Screamin_Eagle174]

This thread is pure awesome, if only for SAC and UNC fans smacking each other. Reminds me of this...

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Cast:

Spoiler: show

Stripe Shirt Midget - BigSkyBears
Burgandy Shirt Midget - SAC fans
Chick Midget - WAC

[Herky]

This thread is pure awesome, if only for SAC and UNC fans smacking each other. Reminds me of this...

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Cast:

Spoiler: show

Stripe Shirt Midget - BigSkyBears
Burgandy Shirt Midget - SAC fans
Chick Midget - WAC

I'd have to agree that it's turning into a more comical thread.

[Catattack]

Seems like the state of Montana has plenty of advertisers since they can support the broadcasting of basically every Bobcat and Grizzly game.

[Herky]

Seems like the state of Montana has plenty of advertisers since they can support the broadcasting of basically every Bobcat and Grizzly game.

And when advertising goes up ten fold are the Montana businesses (currently advertising during UM and MSU games) going to be able to keep advertising? Trust me, right now, the games are only broadcasted in Montana, when games are broadcasted in ten other states the cost of advertising will go up.

Is a company more inclined to advertise during a game that could potentially reach 960 thousand people or a game that has the potential to reach 1.93 million (most of whom have more disposable income)? It's up to the WAC to decide, but when it comes down to votes, Sac State already has three, SJSU (sister institution), Fresno State (sister institution), and Nevada (travel costs and exposure in a large market). Oh, and I'm sure Hawaii would enjoy a direct flight to Sacramento for travel purposes for all of the trips they have to make.

[Catattack]

I guarantee if it came down between the Grizzlies and Hornets the WAC would chose UM. Heck lets say the WAC could pick two out of three between UM, MSU, and SAC, your whole tv market share, advertising argument would be shot to hell. Once again only my

[Herky]

I guarantee if it came down between the Grizzlies and Hornets the WAC would chose UM. Heck lets say the WAC could pick two out of three between UM, MSU, and SAC, your whole tv market share, advertising argument would be shot to hell. Once again only my

Montana State hasnt been mentioned as a WAC prospect.

It is my opinion that any decision made by the WAC to invite any university will be based exclusively on how much money can be made and how will adding that university affect recruiting. I dont think any FBS programs consider Montana prime recruiting grounds, so a strong foothold there isnt necessary, however, a stronger conference presence in talent-rich California is valuable to the conference.

I'll agree to disagree.

[mlbowl]

As of 2008, there were only 960,000 people in the entire state of Montana, there are more than twice that in the Sac Metro Area (1.93 million people in 2000). Hmmm, between the two, where could the most money be made in advertising? But youre right, blah blah blah. And we all know, no decision is going to be made because of financial prospects

Do you have anything to add, or do you just brush off the TV market point and leave it at that?

Yes...and probably around 800,000 were watching them on Saturdays. How many people, in the Scaramento area, do you think would tune in to see Sac St. play New Mexico St. ...according to the NCAA, Sac St. averages 9,000 at their football games. If they can only get 9,000 out of 2 mil to actually show up to the game...how many more do you think are going to tune in for those big WAC matchups?....PLEASE!

[Herky]

As of 2008, there were only 960,000 people in the entire state of Montana, there are more than twice that in the Sac Metro Area (1.93 million people in 2000). Hmmm, between the two, where could the most money be made in advertising? But youre right, blah blah blah. And we all know, no decision is going to be made because of financial prospects

Do you have anything to add, or do you just brush off the TV market point and leave it at that?

Yes...and probably around 800,000 were watching them on Saturdays. How many people, in the Scaramento area, do you think would tune in to see Sac St. play New Mexico St. ...according to the NCAA, Sac St. averages 9,000 at their football games. If they can only get 9,000 out of 2 mil to actually show up to the game...how many more do you think are going to tune in for those big WAC matchups?....PLEASE!

Attendance would be above 15k for sure if Sac were in the WAC, there are three teams within 2-4 hours drive time, Thats three games a year that are day trips. What, is Idaho the closest member to Montana?

How is Montana going to afford the extra schollies, two additional sports, and facility improvements to non-revenue sports that have been neglected for so long?

[mlbowl]

Yes...and probably around 800,000 were watching them on Saturdays. How many people, in the Scaramento area, do you think would tune in to see Sac St. play New Mexico St. ...according to the NCAA, Sac St. averages 9,000 at their football games. If they can only get 9,000 out of 2 mil to actually show up to the game...how many more do you think are going to tune in for those big WAC matchups?....PLEASE!

Attendance would be above 15k for sure if Sac were in the WAC, there are three teams within 2-4 hours drive time, Thats three games a year that are day trips. What, is Idaho the closest member to Montana?

How is Montana going to afford the extra schollies, two additional sports, and facility improvements to non-revenue sports that have been neglected for so long?

Hey...I'm not saying that Montana can afford it...I'm not even saying I want them to go (unless they raid the Sky) I'm just saying that I honestly believe the WAC is going to invite Montana first

[SuperHornet]

As of 2008, there were only 960,000 people in the entire state of Montana, there are more than twice that in the Sac Metro Area (1.93 million people in 2000). Hmmm, between the two, where could the most money be made in advertising? But youre right, blah blah blah. And we all know, no decision is going to be made because of financial prospects

Do you have anything to add, or do you just brush off the TV market point and leave it at that?

Yes...and probably around 800,000 were watching them on Saturdays. How many people, in the Scaramento area, do you think would tune in to see Sac St. play New Mexico St. ...according to the NCAA, Sac St. averages 9,000 at their football games. If they can only get 9,000 out of 2 mil to actually show up to the game...how many more do you think are going to tune in for those big WAC matchups?....PLEASE!

There is history of the "third Aggies" playing in Superior California as they were previously in the Big West. I don't see them as a poor draw for Sac. Certainly they'd draw more than the Bungles.

I'd be curious to see from which NCAA figures you're drawing. I saw stats from last year showing that attendance was up quite a bit from 9K. I did hear that we hit 17K for Causeway as well. Davis has a little problem of locking themselves into a 10K stadium with no possibility of expansion. Our stadium could re-expand to about 25-30K, where it has been before. The allure of a new set of teams could theoretically draw new fans, and success after the requisite post-jump downturn could continue that.

The ease of other schools getting here, as noted by fellow Hornet fans, could tip the scales in our favor in comparison to Missoula.

Again, I don't want to see the move. I just happen, however, to understand some of the arguments of my fellow fans who advocate it.

[mlbowl]

I'd be curious to see from which NCAA figures you're drawing. .

ncaa.org


http://web1.ncaa.org/web_files/stats/fo ... e/2009.pdf

[Herky]

Attendance would be above 15k for sure if Sac were in the WAC, there are three teams within 2-4 hours drive time, Thats three games a year that are day trips. What, is Idaho the closest member to Montana?

How is Montana going to afford the extra schollies, two additional sports, and facility improvements to non-revenue sports that have been neglected for so long?

Hey...I'm not saying that Montana can afford it...I'm not even saying I want them to go (unless they raid the Sky) I'm just saying that I honestly believe the WAC is going to invite Montana first

I see.

I wouldnt be surprised if that happened.

[SuperHornet]

Hey...I'm not saying that Montana can afford it...I'm not even saying I want them to go (unless they raid the Sky) I'm just saying that I honestly believe the WAC is going to invite Montana first

I see.

I wouldnt be surprised if that happened.

Yeah, I could see that happening. WAC asks UM. UM says no, thereby p!$$ing off about half of eGriz. WAC goes to Plan B: Sac. Sac says yes, thereby p!$$ing off the SacBuzz Administrator but making the rest of SacBuzz insanely giddy. Yeah, that could happen.

[AZGrizFan]

Yes...and probably around 800,000 were watching them on Saturdays. How many people, in the Scaramento area, do you think would tune in to see Sac St. play New Mexico St. ...according to the NCAA, Sac St. averages 9,000 at their football games. If they can only get 9,000 out of 2 mil to actually show up to the game...how many more do you think are going to tune in for those big WAC matchups?....PLEASE!

Attendance would be above 15k for sure if Sac were in the WAC, there are three teams within 2-4 hours drive time, Thats three games a year that are day trips. What, is Idaho the closest member to Montana?

How is Montana going to afford the extra schollies, two additional sports, and facility improvements to non-revenue sports that have been neglected for so long?

Well, I guess we can tell the University to just cancel the move-up study....Herky already has all the answers!

[Herky]

Attendance would be above 15k for sure if Sac were in the WAC, there are three teams within 2-4 hours drive time, Thats three games a year that are day trips. What, is Idaho the closest member to Montana?

How is Montana going to afford the extra schollies, two additional sports, and facility improvements to non-revenue sports that have been neglected for so long?

Well, I guess we can tell the University to just cancel the move-up study....Herky already has all the answers!

Finally, someone acknowledges that I indeed do have the answers