Did Bitter Montana AD screw over MSU, EWU??

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Re: Did Bitter Montana AD screw over MSU, EWU??

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Screamin_Eagle174 wrote:
cats2506 wrote:
Haven t we heard this crap before this year, oh yeah, 30-7
8-2 against MSU this decade. :coffee:
# of NC's this decade?

waiting...
still waiting...

i've said this before on here but it bears repeating - as an NDSU fan I know full and well why everyone hates our fan base (hell, it's why I don't care for our fan base), and it's something Eastern fans should be aware of... running your mouth when your on-field performance doesn't rise to the level of your superlatives is a way to become the Notre Dame of FCS (I fear the Bison, thanks to many, many fans who do this already are there already) everyone loves it when they lose because their fans talk junk and their team frequently falls short of their hype.

talk junk when your team produces on the field - but even then... as most of the Bison fans have learned over the years - everyone loves it when the guy who runs his mouth gets his comeuppance... better to be humble than to be a joke (MplsBison leaps to mind)
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Re: Did Bitter Montana AD screw over MSU, EWU??

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TwinTownBisonFan wrote:
Screamin_Eagle174 wrote:
8-2 against MSU this decade. :coffee:
# of NC's this decade?

waiting...
still waiting...

i've said this before on here but it bears repeating - as an NDSU fan I know full and well why everyone hates our fan base (hell, it's why I don't care for our fan base), and it's something Eastern fans should be aware of... running your mouth when your on-field performance doesn't rise to the level of your superlatives is a way to become the Notre Dame of FCS (I fear the Bison, thanks to many, many fans who do this already are there already) everyone loves it when they lose because their fans talk junk and their team frequently falls short of their hype.

talk junk when your team produces on the field - but even then... as most of the Bison fans have learned over the years - everyone loves it when the guy who runs his mouth gets his comeuppance... better to be humble than to be a joke (MplsBison leaps to mind)
A) It's one EWU fan talking smack.

B) I don't think most people really care about this shit as much as you're letting on. Which...come to think of it, is probably the real reason why NDSU is so hated. ;)
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Re: Did Bitter Montana AD screw over MSU, EWU??

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kalm wrote:
TwinTownBisonFan wrote:
# of NC's this decade?

waiting...
still waiting...

i've said this before on here but it bears repeating - as an NDSU fan I know full and well why everyone hates our fan base (hell, it's why I don't care for our fan base), and it's something Eastern fans should be aware of... running your mouth when your on-field performance doesn't rise to the level of your superlatives is a way to become the Notre Dame of FCS (I fear the Bison, thanks to many, many fans who do this already are there already) everyone loves it when they lose because their fans talk junk and their team frequently falls short of their hype.

talk junk when your team produces on the field - but even then... as most of the Bison fans have learned over the years - everyone loves it when the guy who runs his mouth gets his comeuppance... better to be humble than to be a joke (MplsBison leaps to mind)
A) It's one EWU fan talking smack.

B) I don't think most people really care about this shit as much as you're letting on. Which...come to think of it, is probably the real reason why NDSU is so hated. ;)
oh... probably... :lol:
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Re: Did Bitter Montana AD screw over MSU, EWU??

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kalm wrote:
TwinTownBisonFan wrote:
# of NC's this decade?

waiting...
still waiting...

i've said this before on here but it bears repeating - as an NDSU fan I know full and well why everyone hates our fan base (hell, it's why I don't care for our fan base), and it's something Eastern fans should be aware of... running your mouth when your on-field performance doesn't rise to the level of your superlatives is a way to become the Notre Dame of FCS (I fear the Bison, thanks to many, many fans who do this already are there already) everyone loves it when they lose because their fans talk junk and their team frequently falls short of their hype.

talk junk when your team produces on the field - but even then... as most of the Bison fans have learned over the years - everyone loves it when the guy who runs his mouth gets his comeuppance... better to be humble than to be a joke (MplsBison leaps to mind)
A) It's one EWU fan talking smack.

B) I don't think most people really care about this shit as much as you're letting on. Which...come to think of it, is probably the real reason why NDSU is so hated. ;)
TTBF makes a good point, as do you Kalm. I do really love it when they lose in spite of the few level headed fans on here.
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Re: Did Bitter Montana AD screw over MSU, EWU??

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State Line Liquors wrote: OK, so how many more reasons other than history, dollars and close losses do you need? Since Sagarin is so important, should we go based upon the fact that he's got UD ranked as the highest FCS team?

I know the controversy and disagreement are the lifeblood of a message board, but everyone still actually has to win football games to be a champion. It all works itself out at the end of the day. JMU won the tourney in '04 with all their games on the road. UD was in the championship in 2007 with the 13th seed and only 1 home game in the playoffs. In short, EWU is a top 5 seed. Take care of yourselves and it will all work out. Your road to the semis is probably as easy as it comes if history is any indicator.
You might want to try reading the entire thread for context before you comment. If you do, you'll find that:

1) I have very little problem with where we're seeded and actually think the bracket works in our favor.

2) Was making the point that even though history and $'s aren't suppose to matter in the seeding process, they clearly do which leads to...

3) Part of the reason Delaware got seeded ahead of EWU while admitting that UD's Sagarin ranking was also a factor. :oops: But if you were to put Montana's name behind EWU's resume I bet Delaware would be the 5th seed and we would be the 3.
If I misunderstood you, I'm sorry. There's plenty of incoherent slang being tossed about that's creating interference.

Here's where I'll leave it: Past playoff, school, conference, coach, whatever performance should be used heavily in the seeding. There might be no better predictor in both subjective and objective analysis.

What seed exactly is it that you think you deserve?
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Re: Did Bitter Montana AD screw over MSU, EWU??

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TwinTownBisonFan wrote:
Screamin_Eagle174 wrote:
8-2 against MSU this decade. :coffee:
# of NC's this decade?

waiting...
still waiting...

i've said this before on here but it bears repeating - as an NDSU fan I know full and well why everyone hates our fan base (hell, it's why I don't care for our fan base), and it's something Eastern fans should be aware of... running your mouth when your on-field performance doesn't rise to the level of your superlatives is a way to become the Notre Dame of FCS (I fear the Bison, thanks to many, many fans who do this already are there already) everyone loves it when they lose because their fans talk junk and their team frequently falls short of their hype.

talk junk when your team produces on the field - but even then... as most of the Bison fans have learned over the years - everyone loves it when the guy who runs his mouth gets his comeuppance... better to be humble than to be a joke (MplsBison leaps to mind)
So as an NDSU fan, you have no room to talk. NDSU doesn't have a NC in FCS this decade either. Hell, you've barely made the playoffs for the first time this year.

EWU has made the playoffs 5 out of the last 7 years. Yes, we're only 2-4 (3-4 in less than two weeks), but those two wins were against top-2 seeds. Our 4 losses were by a combined 18 points. If we get blown out, then we have no room to talk. But we haven't.

And as far as talking shit to MSU... yes, they kicked our ass early in the season. We've gotten a lot better since then, and TJ was injured going into that game, and didn't play in the second half. I HOPE the Kittens win and we get a rematch... it will be very different; In the last month, BLM is 60/95 (63%) for 698 yds, 8 TDs, and only 1 INT. In the previous 8 games, he was 150/263 (57%), 17 TDs and 10 INTs.
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Re: Did Bitter Montana AD screw over MSU, EWU??

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State Line Liquors wrote:
kalm wrote:
You might want to try reading the entire thread for context before you comment. If you do, you'll find that:

1) I have very little problem with where we're seeded and actually think the bracket works in our favor.

2) Was making the point that even though history and $'s aren't suppose to matter in the seeding process, they clearly do which leads to...

3) Part of the reason Delaware got seeded ahead of EWU while admitting that UD's Sagarin ranking was also a factor. :oops: But if you were to put Montana's name behind EWU's resume I bet Delaware would be the 5th seed and we would be the 3.
If I misunderstood you, I'm sorry. There's plenty of incoherent slang being tossed about that's creating interference.

Here's where I'll leave it: Past playoff, school, conference, coach, whatever performance should be used heavily in the seeding. There might be no better predictor in both subjective and objective analysis.

What seed exactly is it that you think you deserve?
I'd probably seed it:

1. ASU
2. MSU
3. W&M
4. EWU
5. Delaware

But again, I really don't have that much of a problem the way it is.
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EWURanger wrote:
SpeedkingATL wrote:Your best playoff performance this decade was a 3 point loss.
2004 vs #1 seed Southern Illinois - 35-31 W
2007 vs #1 seed Mcneese State - 45-15 W

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SpeedkingATL wrote:It will be very interesting to see if anyone other than a SoCon or CAA team can win a NC since it hasn't happened since...let's see...1992???
Huh?

Anyway, enough of this ****. I'm ready to enjoy the playoffs. Still think the seedings were bs, and you can't tell me the UD and Bill and Mary folks wouldn't think the same if the roles were reversed.
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kalm wrote:I'd probably seed it:

1. ASU
What did App do to deserve #1? Their win over Wofford is their only big win. They went OT with Chatty, let Jacksonville hang around for three quarters, barely escaped Elon... ;)
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BlackFalkin wrote:How is EWU riding UM's coat tails when MONTANA KICKED THE SHT OUTTA ASU LAST YEAR, and EWU KICKED THE SHT OUTTA montana this year?
Where to even begin here? :rofl: :rofl:
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Re: Did Bitter Montana AD screw over MSU, EWU??

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89Hen wrote:
kalm wrote:I'd probably seed it:

1. ASU
What did App do to deserve #1? Their win over Wofford is their only big win. They went OT with Chatty, let Jacksonville hang around for three quarters, barely escaped Elon... ;)
One point that I don't remember being brought up in this thread is that while all five come from power conferences, App, MSU, and EWU only have on FCS loss. MSU wins the head to head against EWU, but App's loss to GSU is better than MSU's loss to NAU. W&M goes a head of EWU with more quality wins and because the BSC isn't strong enough to warrant 2 seeds ahead of both CAA schools.

But I don't think App or anyone needs to apologize for going through a good conference with only one loss or for narrow victories.
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I guess staring at a red field causes brain lapses, so I will outline it again:

Last year we were 9-2 with a win over a FBS (and yes last year we also beat a conference foe who made the playoffs) and did not get a seed. The second round (see "winning first round game") we went to seeded SIU (1,2) and pounded them at home. We then had to replay Villanova and lost by 1 at their place.....

This year we beat three conference foes who are in the playoffs. If you are feeling underappreciated, go on the road and beat a seeded team.......... It looks like you guys have had a solid season, and are peaking late......if that is the case then not being seeded should not be an issue.

JMU won the NC in 2004 all on the road.
UR in 2008 was not seeded and was on the road for 2 of 3.

Is is your turn?
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TribeNomad wrote:I guess staring at a red field causes brain lapses, so I will outline it again:

Last year we were 9-2 with a win over a FBS (and yes last year we also beat a conference foe who made the playoffs) and did not get a seed. The second round (see "winning first round game") we went to seeded SIU (1,2) and pounded them at home. We then had to replay Villanova and lost by 1 at their place.....

This year we beat three conference foes who are in the playoffs. If you are feeling underappreciated, go on the road and beat a seeded team.......... It looks like you guys have had a solid season, and are peaking late......if that is the case then not being seeded should not be an issue.

JMU won the NC in 2004 all on the road.
UR in 2008 was not seeded and was on the road for 2 of 3.

Is is your turn?
Good post.

It's nice to be at home in the playoffs, but good teams can find a way to win on the road.
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TribeNomad wrote:I guess staring at a red field causes brain lapses, so I will outline it again:

Last year we were 9-2 with a win over a FBS (and yes last year we also beat a conference foe who made the playoffs) and did not get a seed. The second round (see "winning first round game") we went to seeded SIU (1,2) and pounded them at home. We then had to replay Villanova and lost by 1 at their place.....

This year we beat three conference foes who are in the playoffs. If you are feeling underappreciated, go on the road and beat a seeded team.......... It looks like you guys have had a solid season, and are peaking late......if that is the case then not being seeded should not be an issue.

JMU won the NC in 2004 all on the road.
UR in 2008 was not seeded and was on the road for 2 of 3.

Is is your turn?
If that's directed at the thread author, I'm pretty sure he hasn't seen a game at The Roos.

If it's directed at me, I don't neccessarily disagree, but my response would be that was last year, and we've won against seeded teams on the road. Home field is a reward.

If it's directed at BF, then prepare to be called a jacknerd (whatever that means). :thumb:
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Now don't you all miss the Griz fans.

Rookies :rofl:
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Now don't you all miss the Griz fans.

Rookies :rofl:
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GtFllsGriz wrote:Now don't you all miss the Griz fans.

Rookies :rofl:
Says the guy who double posted. :lol:
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Ursus A. Horribilis wrote:
EWURanger wrote:


Huh?
I was wondering how that idiotic statement got by so many of you when I was reading this morning. :lol:

I figured it was such a **** all stupid comment that people did like I did and just said that it was too **** dumb to reply to. It needed pointing out though so the rubes know to stick to what they know...shutting the **** up.

Hasn't happened since 1992. :rofl:

You gotta love the new guys that started paying attention in 2007.
Gotta excuse me as I'm probably more than twice the age of the average poster and the decades kind of slip by. The date should have read 2002 but since no one questioned it previously why correct.....
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Crapp St & their fans suck. Btw I got a twenty dollar bill that says Eastern Washington University wins the National Championship. BLM, TJ, BJ & the #1 team in the nation EWU, are just too much to handle for you lames. See ya in Frisco.
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SpeedkingATL wrote:
Ursus A. Horribilis wrote: I was wondering how that idiotic statement got by so many of you when I was reading this morning. :lol:

I figured it was such a **** all stupid comment that people did like I did and just said that it was too **** dumb to reply to. It needed pointing out though so the rubes know to stick to what they know...shutting the **** up.

Hasn't happened since 1992. :rofl:

You gotta love the new guys that started paying attention in 2007.
Gotta excuse me as I'm probably more than twice the age of the average poster and the decades kind of slip by. The date should have read 2002 but since no one questioned it previously why correct.....
I guess the first reason to correct it would be because it's wrong. To back that up the second reason would be integrity.
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Ursus A. Horribilis wrote:
SpeedkingATL wrote: Gotta excuse me as I'm probably more than twice the age of the average poster and the decades kind of slip by. The date should have read 2002 but since no one questioned it previously why correct.....
I guess the first reason to correct it would be because it's wrong. To back that up the second reason would be integrity.
Dont tapdance Ursus, the mans an idiot, and hes a fan of Crapp St. Coincidence? :dunce:
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BlackFalkin wrote:
Ursus A. Horribilis wrote: I guess the first reason to correct it would be because it's wrong. To back that up the second reason would be integrity.
Dont tapdance Ursus, the mans an idiot, and hes a fan of Crapp St. Coincidence? :dunce:

:lol: I love this shit! :nod:
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BlackFalkin wrote:Crapp St & their fans suck. Btw I got a twenty dollar bill that says Eastern Washington University wins the National Championship. BLM, TJ, BJ & the #1 team in the nation EWU, are just too much to handle for you lames. See ya in Frisco.
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BF Quote from a different thread.


1. Best site of all time. (imo)
2. ASU deserves everthing they get. 3 stright NC's is just fvckin awesome. :clap:

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BlackFalkin wrote:Crapp St & their fans suck. Btw I got a twenty dollar bill that says Eastern Washington University wins the National Championship. BLM, TJ, BJ & the #1 team in the nation EWU, are just too much to handle for you lames. See ya in Frisco.
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AshevilleApp wrote:
BF Quote from a different thread.


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