Is NDSU@Gophers a must win for The BISON?

[NDSUFREAK]

Please...this is not a must win game for NDSU. Jerry Kill is not Bewster...Kill actually knows how to coach. I will be shocked if NDSU wins this game...doesn't mean I won't be cheering for them in the student section though! Anything can happen but the mindset of the Gopher football team right now is too focused to overlook the BISON when September comes.

My reason for thinking the Bison won't win is because: a) Kill knows NDSU and won't be overlooking them, and b) strength and conditioning coach Eric Klein, whose name was spoken in hushed and reverent tones around the gym. Dude took .2 seconds off a CB's 40 time, a big jump for someone in a speed position.

As someone who is a Gopher football fan second, this excites me (giggle giggle) another one of the HUGE differences - Kill brought his entire staff. Brewster did far from that and failed. I have heard a lot about Klein and how he is the real deal. I'm hoping they turn the program around in 2-3 years.

How much more familiar are you with Kill? Will he produce at the B1G level?

[JBB]

I hear that Lakes! For me its the biggest game of the year.

Whats up with this NDSUFreak? My goodness he has given up already, but he is going to cheer fo the BISON. Wow, thanks NDSUFreak, you are "died-in-the-wool" aren't you?

I'm being realistic and aiming to show people that not all of us are crazy like you are. Confidence is good but what you show is just something else...and as a BISON fan it really annoys me on how closed minded you are. Internet persona or not.

Where were you for the last Gopher game, the game at Kansas, Central Michigan, Ball State, Montana? I called them all BISON wins and listened to the likes of guys like you the entire time.

You arent being realistic, you are being a chump.

Closed minded? I thought you were being realistic!

What Im hearing from you is coaching is going to make the difference. Ok you give the coaching advantage to the Gophers. I disagree. Ill give you a wash at best. Bohl is top notch Division 1 FBS/FCS caliber coach. That was one of the big advantages for the BISON when they made the move to D1. We didnt go after some D2 head coach type or worse yet a D2 assistant. I say coaching is a wash. Its the best Minnesota can hope for in that regard.

I am also hearing the "overlook" myth. When someone pops that one off you know you are talking to a superstitious fan at best, at worst and idiot. I have my own opinion about the guys talking about the "overlook" factor here.

[NDSUFREAK]

I'm being realistic and aiming to show people that not all of us are crazy like you are. Confidence is good but what you show is just something else...and as a BISON fan it really annoys me on how closed minded you are. Internet persona or not.

Where were you for the last Gopher game, the game at Kansas, Central Michigan, Ball State, Montana? I called them all BISON wins and listened to the likes of guys like you the entire time.

You arent being realistic, you are being a chump.

Closed minded? I thought you were being realistic!

For all of them I didn't expect victory because if/when they did win it was that much sweeter. Sure you can be confident about things and way we are going to win, but it's the way you go about it with you egotistic attitude about everything that is stupid.

What about WYO and Iowa State? I'm sure you said NDSU was going to lose those games because you always predict the correct outcome

[JBB]

You show me the prognosticator that is right 100% of the time? My efforts yield something around 70% correct. On the "Big Calls" its over 80%.

You dont like the style? Well, sorry to tell you, that has no bearing on the outcome of the game. You may be simple like some of these other guys that hope the BISON Lose because they cant keep up with me but please don't bring that into your call on this game. It has no bearing. That an a shiny red apple will get you a pat on the head from teacher.

Are you "Hot for Teacher"?

[NDSUFREAK]

You show me the prognosticator that is right 100% of the time? My efforts yield something around 70% correct. On the "Big Calls" its over 80%.

You dont like the style? Well, sorry to tell you, that has no bearing on the outcome of the game. You may be simple like some of these other guys that hope the BISON Lose because they cant keep up with me but please don't bring that into your call on this game. It has no bearing. That an a shiny red apple will get you a pat on the head from teacher.

Are you "Hot for Teacher"?

I hope they win but I don't think they will. That is my opinion and I hope I am wrong. How is that hoping they lose?

[Screamin_Eagle174]

You show me the prognosticator that is right 100% of the time? My efforts yield something around 70% correct. On the "Big Calls" its over 80%.

You dont like the style? Well, sorry to tell you, that has no bearing on the outcome of the game. You may be simple like some of these other guys that hope the BISON Lose because they cant keep up with me but please don't bring that into your call on this game. It has no bearing. That an a shiny red apple will get you a pat on the head from teacher.

Are you "Hot for Teacher"?

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You went 1 for 4. That's 25%. You suck at prognosticating, math, and life.

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[JBB]

You are a squawking idiot! You pick one arbitrary series of games. Lets look at a couple of picks:

NDSU over Montana JBB predicts the game correctly 100%
NDSU over Ball State JBB predicts the game correctly 100%
NDSU over Central Michigan JBB predicts the game correctly 100%
NDSU over the FBS Charter Member Big 10/FCS Minnesota Gophers JBB predicts the game correctly 100%
NDSU over he FBS Charter Member Big 12/FCS Kansas Jayhawks JBB predicts the game correctly 100%

NDSU over SDSU winning the BORDER MARKER and positioning themselves for the College Football Championship of the Dakotas. Thats the coveted title enjoyed by the winner of the competition between the Dakota Big 3: NDSU, SDSU and USD. JBB predicts the game correctly 100%

NDSU over USD JBB predicts the game correctly 100%
NDSU over Morgan State JBB predicts the game correctly 100%
NDSU over SIU (they played too many underclassmen and has some injuries) JBB predicts the game correctly 100%
NDSU over Montana State JBB predicts the game correctly 100%


Now add in your ridiculously arbitrary 1-4 and you have 11-4. Respectable by anyones standards.

[Screamin_Eagle174]

You are a squawking idiot! You pick one arbitrary series of games. Lets look at a couple of picks:

NDSU over Montana JBB predicts the game correctly 100%
NDSU over Ball State JBB predicts the game correctly 100%
NDSU over Central Michigan JBB predicts the game correctly 100%
NDSU over the FBS Charter Member Big 10/FCS Minnesota Gophers JBB predicts the game correctly 100%
NDSU over he FBS Charter Member Big 12/FCS Kansas Jayhawks JBB predicts the game correctly 100%

NDSU over SDSU winning the BORDER MARKER and positioning themselves for the College Football Championship of the Dakotas. Thats the coveted title enjoyed by the winner of the competition between the Dakota Big 3: NDSU, SDSU and USD. JBB predicts the game correctly 100%

NDSU over USD JBB predicts the game correctly 100%
NDSU over Morgan State JBB predicts the game correctly 100%
NDSU over SIU (they played too many underclassmen and has some injuries) JBB predicts the game correctly 100%
NDSU over Montana State JBB predicts the game correctly 100%


Now add in your ridiculously arbitrary 1-4 and you have 11-4. Respectable by anyones standards.

And the games you just picked out aren't arbitrary? What about all the games you've incorrectly predicted, like vs. EWU, UNI, WIU, etc? And in case you didn't know, "prognosticating" on the outcome of one game doesn't tell you shit. You're either going to be 100% right or 0% right, dumbass. Why doesn't your expert self participate in the Weekly Pick'em game this year where you pick 20+ games at a time and put your skills to the test?

[houndawg]

My reason for thinking the Bison won't win is because: a) Kill knows NDSU and won't be overlooking them, and b) strength and conditioning coach Eric Klein, whose name was spoken in hushed and reverent tones around the gym. Dude took .2 seconds off a CB's 40 time, a big jump for someone in a speed position.

As someone who is a Gopher football fan second, this excites me (giggle giggle) another one of the HUGE differences - Kill brought his entire staff. Brewster did far from that and failed. I have heard a lot about Klein and how he is the real deal. I'm hoping they turn the program around in 2-3 years.

How much more familiar are you with Kill? Will he produce at the B1G level?

I don't know if he'll produce or not at Minnesota; I believe he can. I think you'll see a noticeable difference physically and athletically in the same players players, the players here considered Klein a secret weapon. He will be a big asset to the community, he is still active in the Coach Kill Cancer Fund he started while he was here. I never met the guy but the consensus around here is that he is a good coach and a better man, and that he'll eat steak every night in Egypt.

[JBB]

I saw him speak a couple weeks ago. Impressive and interesting man.

[JBB]

You are a squawking idiot! You pick one arbitrary series of games. Lets look at a couple of picks:

NDSU over Montana JBB predicts the game correctly 100%
NDSU over Ball State JBB predicts the game correctly 100%
NDSU over Central Michigan JBB predicts the game correctly 100%
NDSU over the FBS Charter Member Big 10/FCS Minnesota Gophers JBB predicts the game correctly 100%
NDSU over he FBS Charter Member Big 12/FCS Kansas Jayhawks JBB predicts the game correctly 100%

NDSU over USD JBB predicts the game correctly 100%
NDSU over Morgan State JBB predicts the game correctly 100%
NDSU over SIU (they played too many underclassmen and has some injuries) JBB predicts the game correctly 100%
NDSU over Montana State JBB predicts the game correctly 100%


Now add in your ridiculously arbitrary 1-4 and you have 11-4. Respectable by anyones standards.

And the games you just picked out aren't arbitrary? What about all the games you've incorrectly predicted, like vs. EWU, UNI, WIU, etc? And in case you didn't know, "prognosticating" on the outcome of one game doesn't tell you ****. You're either going to be 100% right or 0% right, dumbass. Why doesn't your expert self participate in the Weekly Pick'em game this year where you pick 20+ games at a time and put your skills to the test?

Dont be squawkin' stupid!

[Screamin_Eagle174]

And the games you just picked out aren't arbitrary? What about all the games you've incorrectly predicted, like vs. EWU, UNI, WIU, etc? And in case you didn't know, "prognosticating" on the outcome of one game doesn't tell you ****. You're either going to be 100% right or 0% right, dumbass. Why doesn't your expert self participate in the Weekly Pick'em game this year where you pick 20+ games at a time and put your skills to the test?

Dont be squawkin' stupid!

Thanks for admitting you were wrong and not much of a "prognosticator."


Wait, I sure hope that wasn't liable.

[JBB]

squawking idiot

The reason the Gopher game is a must win is the playoff picture. I expect the MVFC to be tight again this season. A breakout is most probable for NDSU. Its also likely NDSU could use a BCS win, just like last year.

[Screamin_Eagle174]

blundering douche

You still haven't listed all of your wrong predictions, prairie cow. Quit evading like the retarded coward you are. You're nowhere near 70%, because you're a fucking dolt. Your prognosticating skills are on the same level as the ndsu passing game last year; virtually non-existent.

[JBB]

squawk you. Get back on topic squawk'n fool.

What really matters is not how I have done in the past. In case you didnt know it prognosticating is about the future. OK, duh..

Im going to make a call on this game. Are you?

[NDSUFREAK]

oops jbb, looks like you have to completely act like you didn't say any of that previous stuff your amazing % of picking games correctly. Screamin' was just proving you wrong, that's all and you can't say he didn't prove you wrong because, well, he did

Go ahead and call the game so this can end

[Screamin_Eagle174]

squawk you. Get back on topic squawk'n fool.

What really matters is not how I have done in the past. In case you didnt know it prognosticating is about the future. OK, duh..

Im going to make a call on this game. Are you?

Cowardly, evading, blundering douche. That's what you are. You were touting your past success as a prognosticator, and I proved that you were nowhere near 70% correct all the time. More like 70% incorrect all the time... eventually retards like you guess right about 30% of the time.

Like I said, participate in the Weekly Pick'em game this year... that's in the future. As for this game, the blundering prairie cows will lose. And the only reason you think it's a must win, is because the prairie cows can't hack it in the mediocre MVFC. ndsu struggled to reach .500 last year not because the conference is tough, but because ndsu has no passing game. Well that, and you're a bunch of choke artists... I think that was proven against EWU.

[EWURanger]

This entire thread is "assaulting my brain".

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[Silenoz]

This entire thread is "assaulting my brain".

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I have half those posters on ignore

[AZGrizFan]

blundering douche

You still haven't listed all of your wrong predictions, prairie cow. Quit evading like the retarded coward you are. You're nowhere near 70%, because you're a fucking dolt. Your prognosticating skills are on the same level as the ndsu passing game last year; virtually non-existent.

Not only can't/won't he list all his wrong predictions, he can't even read statistics correctly. He still insists NDSU is 4-9 in the last 13 against UND when all historical records clearly indicate they're 3-10.

[Screamin_Eagle174]

This entire thread is "assaulting my brain".

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Thanks for linking that thread, jerkoff. I knew there was a reason I hadn't opened it.

[EWURanger]

This entire thread is "assaulting my brain".

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Thanks for linking that thread, jerkoff. I knew there was a reason I hadn't opened it.

I laughed out loud when I read the assaulting their brains stuff.....too funny.

[JBB]

oops jbb, looks like you have to completely act like you didn't say any of that previous stuff your amazing % of picking games correctly. Screamin' was just proving you wrong, that's all and you can't say he didn't prove you wrong because, well, he did

Go ahead and call the game so this can end

Squawk Box didnt prove anybody wrong. He proved he can cherry pick a thread or two and twist that into an argument that sells well to fools.

How good I am at prognostication is neither here nor there, but the record shows a remarkable ability to fortell the outcome of future games. My particular focus is the BISON.

I havent had an insight into this game. At some point I will get a glimpse and be able to devine the outcome. Until then its necessary to focus on the fundimentals: running, blocking, tackling, catching.

You have talked about coaching but have yet to reply why you think Kill is any better than Bohl. Bohl is a top notched BCS coach. He has more experience than Kill. Thats why The Coach can get the talent. He knows his way around. He has had some good and bad with his assistants. To me thats one of the biggest differences between FBS/FCS: the money available to hire the best assistants.

Im saying coaching is a wash. Coach Bohl has a good group around him now, Kill is capable but new.

[Screamin_Eagle174]

oops jbb, looks like you have to completely act like you didn't say any of that previous stuff your amazing % of picking games correctly. Screamin' was just proving you wrong, that's all and you can't say he didn't prove you wrong because, well, he did

Go ahead and call the game so this can end

Squawk Box didnt prove anybody wrong. He proved he can cherry pick a thread or two and twist that into an argument that sells well to fools.

How good I am at prognostication is neither here nor there, but the record shows a remarkable ability to fortell the outcome of future games. My particular focus is the BISON.

I havent had an insight into this game. At some point I will get a glimpse and be able to devine the outcome. Until then its necessary to focus on the fundimentals: running, blocking, tackling, catching.

You have talked about coaching but have yet to reply why you think Kill is any better than Bohl. Bohl is a top notched BCS coach. He has more experience than Kill. Thats why The Coach can get the talent. He knows his way around. He has had some good and bad with his assistants. To me thats one of the biggest differences between FBS/FCS: the money available to hire the best assistants.

Im saying coaching is a wash. Coach Bohl has a good group around him now, Kill is capable but new.

Perhaps you could divine the fundamentals of the English language, and the prairie cows could divine the fundamentals of a passing game.

Also, your record only shows a remarkably poor ability to predict the outcome of games.

[JBB]

Heres a cracker squawk box, now go to your cage..


So far we have NDSU and the Gophers even on coaching:

1) Coaching even
2) Running game: NDSU
3) Running Defense: NDSU
4) Passing game: even. Gophers have a new QB
5) Passing defense: Gophers
7) Special teams: Gophers

Now some intangibles:

1) speed: Even slightly leaning NDSU
2) Athleticism ?
3) Size: even
4) Strength: ?

Intangibles:

1) Home field: even no advantage, slight favor to the BISON
2) Beloved underdog status with a record to show they are dangerous: NDSU
3) Motivation: NDSU