Best conferences

[DJH]

The MVFC has had 4 DIFFERENT national semifinalists in the last 10 years. BSC 2.

The MFFC has had 6 national semifinal appearances in the last 10 years. BSC 6, with Montana claiming 5 of those.

The MVFC has had 26 playoff wins in the last 10 years. BSC 25, with an astonishing 16 of those wins belonging to Montana.

The MVFC has had 6 different schools WIN playoff games in the last 10 years. BSC 5.

And 0 National Champions or runners-up.........which, at the end of the day, is all that really matters.

UNI runner up, and WKU national champion.

[EWURanger]

And 0 National Champions or runners-up.........which, at the end of the day, is all that really matters.

UNI runner up, and WKU national champion.

I was fishing a little......

I actually remembered UNI in 2005, but forgot about WKU in 2002.

So do former members count?

If so, then the Big Sky has 5 National Champions.

[AZGrizFan]

The Big Sky stepped up last year, well at least EWU did, bumping the Sky up to #2.

I agree with that Gil, but I dont agree they were bumped up. Too many weak teams. The BSC was a 1 team wonder and there are a lot of questions surrounding the 1 team wonder too.

There is no criteria set as to what makes a conference good. Some of you think an entire conference is good because 1 team makes an appearance in the NC game. I dont think thats a very good measure of a conferences strength.

What you want to see is a strong conference that competes well OOC and is not completely dominated by 1 team. When a conference is completely dominated by 1 team and there are a lot of teams with no wins or 1 win you dont have a strong conference.

If the BSC was a "one team wonder", then the Gateway was a zero team wonder.

[EWURanger]

And 0 National Champions or runners-up.........which, at the end of the day, is all that really matters.

UNI runner up, and WKU national champion.

Dude, I just looked at your 2007 schedule. Had no idea you went undefeated into the second round of the playoffs that year. Very impressive.

Damn Delaware.

[DJH]

UNI runner up, and WKU national champion.

Dude, I just looked at your 2007 schedule. Had no idea you went undefeated into the second round of the playoffs that year. Very impressive.

Damn Delaware.

[Silenoz]

That was the year the top 3 seeds were undefeated, and none of them made it past the 2nd round

[DJH]

SIU was seeded that year and made it to the semi's before losing to UD.

[houndawg]

SIU was seeded that year and made it to the semi's before losing to UD.

Two TDs called back for lineman downfield.......UD had a helluva run that year with Flacco.

[Grizalltheway]

SIU was seeded that year and made it to the semi's before losing to UD.

Two TDs called back for lineman downfield.......UD had a helluva run that year with Flacco.

No shame in losing to a team with Flacco and that stud RB, not to mention their defense.

[houndawg]

Two TDs called back for lineman downfield.......UD had a helluva run that year with Flacco.

No shame in losing to a team with Flacco and that stud RB, not to mention their defense.

It hurt because we were good enough to win, unlike the first time we played them when they were head and shoulders above us. and everybody else.

Cuff was good, and got 100 yards in the game, iirc. What impressed me most about him was his knack for slipping three or four yards into a carry that should have been stopped for zero or one.

[AZGrizFan]

Careful, fellas. This thread is dangerously close to slipping into an actual logical FCS football conversation, using such crazy things as facts and logic.

[DJH]

JBB didn't start this thread, so it's ok.

[grizzaholic]

Careful, fellas. This thread is dangerously close to slipping into an actual logical FCS football conversation, using such crazy things as facts and logic.

What is fact and logic? I don't know what those is/are.

[JBB]

The MVFC has had 4 DIFFERENT national semifinalists in the last 10 years. BSC 2.

The MFFC has had 6 national semifinal appearances in the last 10 years. BSC 6, with Montana claiming 5 of those.

The MVFC has had 26 playoff wins in the last 10 years. BSC 25, with an astonishing 16 of those wins belonging to Montana.

The MVFC has had 6 different schools WIN playoff games in the last 10 years. BSC 5.

Thanks DJH for the evidence the BSC is a "1-trick-pony".

Look at those stats. Thats what makes a conference strong: A lot of teams that can compete nationally. A conference that has 1 or 2 good teams year in and year out with the rest also rans is not a strong conference even if their 1 trick pony is national champions. All that says is the conference had the nations #1 team, it doesnt say anything about the conference itself. But, if you were going to draw a conclusion about a conference like that you are likely to decide its a very weak conference dominated by 1 or 2 teams.

The picture in the MVFC is much different. A lot of schools playing at a level that is of national significance.

Because both the CAA and MVFC have a lot of good teams I would rank them 1 and 2 respectively.

[JBB]

Careful, fellas. This thread is dangerously close to slipping into an actual logical FCS football conversation, using such crazy things as facts and logic.

What is fact and logic? I don't know what those is/are.

You have certainly demonstrated that on a regular basis.

[Grizalltheway]

The MVFC has had 4 DIFFERENT national semifinalists in the last 10 years. BSC 2.

The MFFC has had 6 national semifinal appearances in the last 10 years. BSC 6, with Montana claiming 5 of those.

The MVFC has had 26 playoff wins in the last 10 years. BSC 25, with an astonishing 16 of those wins belonging to Montana.

The MVFC has had 6 different schools WIN playoff games in the last 10 years. BSC 5.

Thanks DJH for the evidence the BSC is a "1-trick-pony".

Look at those stats. Thats what makes a conference strong: A lot of teams that can compete nationally. A conference that has 1 or 2 good teams year in and year out with the rest also rans is not a strong conference even if their 1 trick pony is national champions. All that says is the conference had the nations #1 team, it doesnt say anything about the conference itself. But, if you were going to draw a conclusion about a conference like that you are likely to decide its a very weak conference dominated by 1 or 2 teams.

The picture in the MVFC is much different. A lot of schools playing at a level that is of national significance.
Because both the CAA and MVFC have a lot of good teams I would rank them 1 and 2 respectively.

Well, it's a shame you guys aren't "nationally significant" enough to regularly put a team in the title game. Keep grasping at those straws, Jibbles.

[JBB]

I think you are talking about the FCS title game that Montana regualarly lost before the collapse?

[Grizalltheway]

I think you are talking about the FCS title game that Montana regualarly lost before the collapse?

That's the one. I can understand why you'd be confused; it could be years before an MVFC team gets back to it.

[kalm]

The MVFC has had 4 DIFFERENT national semifinalists in the last 10 years. BSC 2.

The MFFC has had 6 national semifinal appearances in the last 10 years. BSC 6, with Montana claiming 5 of those.

The MVFC has had 26 playoff wins in the last 10 years. BSC 25, with an astonishing 16 of those wins belonging to Montana.

The MVFC has had 6 different schools WIN playoff games in the last 10 years. BSC 5.

Thanks DJH for the evidence the BSC is a "1-trick-pony".

Look at those stats. Thats what makes a conference strong: A lot of teams that can compete nationally. A conference that has 1 or 2 good teams year in and year out with the rest also rans is not a strong conference even if their 1 trick pony is national champions. All that says is the conference had the nations #1 team, it doesnt say anything about the conference itself. But, if you were going to draw a conclusion about a conference like that you are likely to decide its a very weak conference dominated by 1 or 2 teams.

The picture in the MVFC is much different. A lot of schools playing at a level that is of national significance.

Because both the CAA and MVFC have a lot of good teams I would rank them 1 and 2 respectively.

So forgetting the title, NC appearances, and semi appearances for a second, if you go back over the last 5 years, the BSC has had 4 teams make the qf's, the MVFC has had 3. Of course I'm sure national prominence has more to do with ooc scheduling than performance.

[JBB]

Thanks DJH for the evidence the BSC is a "1-trick-pony".

Look at those stats. Thats what makes a conference strong: A lot of teams that can compete nationally. A conference that has 1 or 2 good teams year in and year out with the rest also rans is not a strong conference even if their 1 trick pony is national champions. All that says is the conference had the nations #1 team, it doesnt say anything about the conference itself. But, if you were going to draw a conclusion about a conference like that you are likely to decide its a very weak conference dominated by 1 or 2 teams.

The picture in the MVFC is much different. A lot of schools playing at a level that is of national significance.

Because both the CAA and MVFC have a lot of good teams I would rank them 1 and 2 respectively.

So forgetting the title, NC appearances, and semi appearances for a second, if you go back over the last 5 years, the BSC has had 4 teams make the qf's, the MVFC has had 3. Of course I'm sure national prominence has more to do with ooc scheduling than performance.

The BSC has a decent record and its a good enough conference to be mentioned, from time-to-time, at least in some respects, as you have pointed out, when the talk turns to the NDSU BISON, MVFC and the FCS elite.

[Grizalltheway]

Uh

So forgetting the title, NC appearances, and semi appearances for a second, if you go back over the last 5 years, the BSC has had 4 teams make the qf's, the MVFC has had 3. Of course I'm sure national prominence has more to do with ooc scheduling than performance.

The BSC has a decent record and its a good enough conference to be mentioned, from time-to-time, at least in some respects, as you have pointed out, when the talk turns to the NDSU BISON, MVFC and the FCS elite.

[tampajag]

Uh

The BSC has a decent record and its a good enough conference to be mentioned, from time-to-time, at least in some respects, as you have pointed out, when the talk turns to the NDSU BISON, MVFC and the FCS elite.

don't laugh they did beat a Big 12 charter member

[VBR_Productions]

"But when you start to make a case that the CAA isn't the best FCS conference, you can't. About seven of the 11 CAA teams warrant Top 25 consideration heading into the season, so the conference's depth is enough to keep it on top."

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[JBB]

The MVFC outdraws the BSC. It was by over 100,000 last year. Thats the true measure of a conference. All of this other stuff comes and goes.

Here are the FCS conferences in order of attendance:

1. Southwestern Athletic
2. Southern
3. Colonial
4. Missouri Valley Football
5. Mid-Eastern Athletic
6. Big Sky
7. Ivy
8. Southland
9. Ohio Valley
10. Great West
11. Big South
12. Patriot
13. Pioneer
14. Northeast
15. Independents

[clenz]

The MVFC outdraws the BSC. It was by over 100,000 last year. Thats the true measure of a conference. All of this other stuff comes and goes.

Here are the FCS conferences in order of attendance:

1. Southwestern Athletic
2. Southern
3. Colonial
4. Missouri Valley Football
5. Mid-Eastern Athletic
6. Big Sky
7. Ivy
8. Southland
9. Ohio Valley
10. Great West
11. Big South
12. Patriot
13. Pioneer
14. Northeast
15. Independents

SWAC and MEAC are nowhere close to the CAA, SoCon, Big Sky, or MVFC