Playoff Teams?

[89Hen]

Just makes it hard to compare conferences of different sizes, that's all.

Didn't there use to be a rule that you had to have 7 teams to be an AQ conference? Or was/is it only 6?

Six

[Ibanez]

It's been mentioned on here countless times. You choose not to improve yourself.

Sticky, it's pointless arguing or having a conversation with someone like him. For example, have you ever seen a bulldog try to bark while eating mayonnaise? It's gross, and you want it to stop but no matter what you do, the bulldog won't stop. Point being, don't give mayonnaise to dal or a bulldog.

I just vommitted and shat my pants. You owe me a new suit.

[Grizalltheway]

It's been mentioned on here countless times. You choose not to improve yourself.

Sticky, it's pointless arguing or having a conversation with someone like him. For example, have you ever seen a bulldog try to bark while eating mayonnaise? It's gross, and you want it to stop but no matter what you do, the bulldog won't stop. Point being, don't give mayonnaise to dal or a bulldog.

What about BBQ sauce? I hear brothers love BBQ sauce.

[Aho Old Guy]

The thing about the Sagarin 'Central Mean' (if that's what that is) is that it dumbs everything down to the middle, and the 8-1s at the top are supposed to offset the 1-8s at the bottom.

The Big South 'middle' is Chuck South at 7-3 and Presbyterian at 5-5. Because there are limited in-conference games, the bottom third is essentially playing .500 (instead of .150) ball. When the top is playing at a .800 clip, the winning percentage of the conference overall is artificially boosted when dumbed-down to the mean.

And when those OOC victories are built on the likes of Point, Newberry, Campbell, Charlotte and the weak sisters of the SoCon, NEC and MEAC, it's simply a statistical mirage.

So how would you rank the conferences #1-#11?

If you noticed, I only posted the first six. I really don't care about the Ivy vs the SWAC.

They have:
13 MISSOURI VALLEY
20 BIG SOUTH
21 COLONIAL
22 SOUTHERN
23 SOUTHLAND
24 BIG SKY

I have:
13 MISSOURI VALLEY
21 COLONIAL
24 BIG SKY
20 BIG SOUTH
23 SOUTHLAND
22 SOUTHERN

[89Hen]

The thing about the Sagarin...

is that it's a computer program trying to compare teams with extremely limited data and therefore is worthless.

[AZGrizFan]

The thing about the Sagarin 'Central Mean' (if that's what that is) is that it dumbs everything down to the middle, and the 8-1s at the top are supposed to offset the 1-8s at the bottom.

The Big South 'middle' is Chuck South at 7-3 and Presbyterian at 5-5. Because there are limited in-conference games, the bottom third is essentially playing .500 (instead of .150) ball. When the top is playing at a .800 clip, the winning percentage of the conference overall is artificially boosted when dumbed-down to the mean.

And when those OOC victories are built on the likes of Point, Newberry, Campbell, Charlotte and the weak sisters of the SoCon, NEC and MEAC, it's simply a statistical mirage.

[dal4018]

Sticky, it's pointless arguing or having a conversation with someone like him. For example, have you ever seen a bulldog try to bark while eating mayonnaise? It's gross, and you want it to stop but no matter what you do, the bulldog won't stop. Point being, don't give mayonnaise to dal or a bulldog.

What about BBQ sauce? I hear brothers love BBQ sauce.

We learned it from you ppl.

[dal4018]

Sticky, it's pointless arguing or having a conversation with someone like him. For example, have you ever seen a bulldog try to bark while eating mayonnaise? It's gross, and you want it to stop but no matter what you do, the bulldog won't stop. Point being, don't give mayonnaise to dal or a bulldog.

I just vommitted and shat my pants. You owe me a new suit.

You ppl make everyone vomit.

[bandl]

I just vommitted and shat my pants. You owe me a new suit.

You ppl make everyone vomit.

Wite ppl?

[Ibanez]

What about BBQ sauce? I hear brothers love BBQ sauce.

We learned it from you ppl.

We taught you well. BBQ sauce is the incredible.

[Ibanez]

You ppl make everyone vomit.

Wite ppl?

That raceists

[bucs90]

The thing about the Sagarin 'Central Mean' (if that's what that is) is that it dumbs everything down to the middle, and the 8-1s at the top are supposed to offset the 1-8s at the bottom.

The Big South 'middle' is Chuck South at 7-3 and Presbyterian at 5-5. Because there are limited in-conference games, the bottom third is essentially playing .500 (instead of .150) ball. When the top is playing at a .800 clip, the winning percentage of the conference overall is artificially boosted when dumbed-down to the mean.

And when those OOC victories are built on the likes of Point, Newberry, Campbell, Charlotte and the weak sisters of the SoCon, NEC and MEAC, it's simply a statistical mirage.

If you noticed, I only posted the first six. I really don't care about the Ivy vs the SWAC.

They have:
13 MISSOURI VALLEY
20 BIG SOUTH
21 COLONIAL
22 SOUTHERN
23 SOUTHLAND
24 BIG SKY

I have:
13 MISSOURI VALLEY
21 COLONIAL
24 BIG SKY
20 BIG SOUTH
23 SOUTHLAND
22 SOUTHERN

The last 2 years the Big South has wins over App State, Wofford, Citadel, Western, defending champ Furman....are they all the weak little sisters?

Right now Big South > SoCon and there isnt much of a debate when you look at on field results.

[GannonFan]

The thing about the Sagarin 'Central Mean' (if that's what that is) is that it dumbs everything down to the middle, and the 8-1s at the top are supposed to offset the 1-8s at the bottom.

The Big South 'middle' is Chuck South at 7-3 and Presbyterian at 5-5. Because there are limited in-conference games, the bottom third is essentially playing .500 (instead of .150) ball. When the top is playing at a .800 clip, the winning percentage of the conference overall is artificially boosted when dumbed-down to the mean.

And when those OOC victories are built on the likes of Point, Newberry, Campbell, Charlotte and the weak sisters of the SoCon, NEC and MEAC, it's simply a statistical mirage.

The last 2 years the Big South has wins over App State, Wofford, Citadel, Western, defending champ Furman....are they all the weak little sisters?

Right now Big South > SoCon and there isnt much of a debate when you look at on field results.

Ever since Appy and GSU left the SoCon does suck, so yes, the Big South is better than the SoCon. But so are most of the conferences not called the MEAC or SWAC.

[kalm]

The thing about the Sagarin 'Central Mean' (if that's what that is) is that it dumbs everything down to the middle, and the 8-1s at the top are supposed to offset the 1-8s at the bottom.

The Big South 'middle' is Chuck South at 7-3 and Presbyterian at 5-5. Because there are limited in-conference games, the bottom third is essentially playing .500 (instead of .150) ball. When the top is playing at a .800 clip, the winning percentage of the conference overall is artificially boosted when dumbed-down to the mean.

And when those OOC victories are built on the likes of Point, Newberry, Campbell, Charlotte and the weak sisters of the SoCon, NEC and MEAC, it's simply a statistical mirage.

The last 2 years the Big South has wins over App State, Wofford, Citadel, Western, defending champ Furman....are they all the weak little sisters?

Right now Big South > SoCon and there isnt much of a debate when you look at on field results.

The Big South plays the Southern and MEAC OOC (mostly). The Big Sky, Southland, and MVFC play each other.

[SuperHornet]

Big South hasn't really played anyone.

Now, that's a real bologna statement.

Presby's played the MAC, the ACC, AND the SEC. G-W has played the ACC. Heck, Liberty is 1-1 vs. FBS, having played the ACC and beaten the Sun Belt. And Chuck South has played the SEC and has ANOTHER SEC game coming up. How exactly is that not "anyone?"

[kalm]

Big South hasn't really played anyone.

Now, that's a real bologna statement.

Presby's played the MAC. G-W has played the ACC. Heck, Liberty is 1-1 vs. FBS, having played the ACC and beaten the Sun Belt. And Chuck South has an SEC game coming up.

How exactly is that not "anyone?"

FCS.

[SuperHornet]

Now, that's a real bologna statement.

Presby's played the MAC. G-W has played the ACC. Heck, Liberty is 1-1 vs. FBS, having played the ACC and beaten the Sun Belt. And Chuck South has an SEC game coming up.

How exactly is that not "anyone?"

FCS.

That begs the question that gets asked every year around the time of the NCAA Tournament. Teams get blasted for having not "played anyone," as if it's ALWAYS their own fault that happens. Scheduling is a two-way street. A team can't get an "up" game if an "up" team runs scared and refuses the game. Blaming the victim is poor policy, here AND in real life....

[kalm]

FCS.

That begs the question that gets asked every year around the time of the NCAA Tournament. Teams get blasted for having not "played anyone," as if it's ALWAYS their own fault that happens. Scheduling is a two-way street. A team can't get an "up" game if an "up" team runs scared and refuses the game. Blaming the victim is poor policy, here AND in real life....

You're victimizing the Big South. It's too bad they've bad luck with scheduling but wtf does that have to do with selecting the best teams?

[SuperHornet]

It's not so much about selecting the "best teams," per se, but giving everyone a CHANCE to be one of the best teams. It's like being denied a job due to "lack of experience." How does one gain "experience" if one is denied the job? Similarly, one can't prove that one can beat the "big boys" if the "big boys" never give them the chance. That's EXACTLY why I don't like FBS....

[kalm]

It's not so much about selecting the "best teams," per se, but giving everyone a CHANCE to be one of the best teams. It's like being denied a job due to "lack of experience." How does one gain "experience" if one is denied the job? Similarly, one can't prove that one can beat the "big boys" if the "big boys" never give them the chance. That's EXACTLY why I don't like FBS....

You keep working hard and challenging yourself until you break through. What are ya...some participation trophy loving lib?

[SuperHornet]

I'm not saying let everyone in, kalm. It's just that I don't think the "elite" conferences in FCS should be allowed to behave in the same fashion as the bogus B(C)$ conferences do in defining themselves as the "elite" and nobody else is allowed in. All I'm asking is for the upper tier conferences to play SOME OOC games against the lower tier teams. The lower teams don't do well in a particular matchup? Fine. They didn't belong. But if the game isn't played, then we're ARTIFICIALLY keeping teams out, IMO. All I want to see is each team having the opportunity to play an "up" OOC game, a "down" OOC game, and a peer OOC game. I know geography has something to say about that, and I'm not necessarily saying that FCS teams should have to play D-II, D-III, or NAIA games (though the OCCASIONAL scheduling of a lower division team shouldn't necessarily be seen as a bad thing). Besides, in the event that the "down" game turns out to be a rout, there's the opportunity to develop backups not only for the future, but to be prepared if the starters go down with injury. There IS a difference between playing a "down" game (which for many could be scheduled as a great homecoming game instead of being stupid enough to schedule the best team in the conference that year for homecoming, as Sac has done on occasion) and playing an ENTIRE OOC schedule "down."

[BDKJMU]

Coming into tonights HBCU game BCU was 8-2/5-1 and Hampton was 2-8/1-5. HU pulling the upset means BCU now 8-3/5-2 is out and there is 0 chance the MEAC gets 3. Now its the question of 1 or 2.

[Ibanez]

Coming into tonights HBCU game BCU was 8-2/5-1 and Hampton was 2-8/1-5. HU pulling the upset means BCU now 8-3/5-2 is out and there is 0 chance the MEAC gets 3. Now its the question of 1 or 2.

My money will be on SC State getting in, and that's all. Then, they'll lose in the first in round.

[Aho Old Guy]

Barring a BC-like meltdown, SC State and NC A&T will be in the playoffs.

[dal4018]

Barring a BC-like meltdown, SC State and NC A&T will be in the playoffs.

I will be shocked if the MEAC can produce two teams in the playoffs!!!!!Due to both teams conservative nature ,if either of them meet Coastal Carolina ,they will have to throw the ball in order to a pull upset.Desmond Lawrence of A&T and Taquan West of SCSU ,will have to play major roles in ,these teams offenses in order for that to happen.Both are WRs!!!!