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AZGrizFan wrote:
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You brought up 2003 first :rofl:
Sure...in a completely different context...but whatever floats your boat, gil.

You are rapidly working on being lumped in with the lakesbisons and jbb's of the world... :dunce: :dunce:
Just trying to provide you some entertainment AZ, it has to be painful living in that gravel pit 24x7x365 ;)
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Gil Dobie wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote:
Sure...in a completely different context...but whatever floats your boat, gil.

You are rapidly working on being lumped in with the lakesbisons and jbb's of the world... :dunce: :dunce:
Just trying to provide you some entertainment AZ, it has to be painful living in that gravel pit 24x7x365 ;)
What are you talking about? It's a balmy 113 here today.... :thumb: :kisswink:
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AZGrizFan wrote:
Gil Dobie wrote:
Just trying to provide you some entertainment AZ, it has to be painful living in that gravel pit 24x7x365 ;)
What are you talking about? It's a balmy 113 here today.... :thumb: :kisswink:
Sounds like it's a sunny beach :mrgreen:
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slycat wrote:NDSU haven't been this crazy in a few years. Its hard to not read a long and laugh though. Got to say NDSU seems obsessed with UND and follow every move they make. I'll compare it to Texas Terror following Texas St around. Seems the recent record against UND speaks for itself.
I'll just say there are good reasons why NDSU fans hate UND, some of which people in this board will never understand.
bincitysioux wrote:Point of fact: the North Dakota-NDSU series ended as a direct result of NDSU's decision to begin competition in a division that North Dakota did not compete in. Since North Dakota moved up to the same division in 2008, they have offered and been declined multiple times by NDSU to resume the series.

Cue the "Roger Thomas Press Conference" and "Gene Taylor has made the offer" anecdotes...................
Bullshit, Gene Taylor offered your AD recently a chance to play NDSU every other year, home and home which he declined because he would only play NDSU every year or not at all.

Roger Thomas is a horse's ass and a major reason why the game isn't being played today.
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FargoBison wrote:
slycat wrote:NDSU haven't been this crazy in a few years. Its hard to not read a long and laugh though. Got to say NDSU seems obsessed with UND and follow every move they make. I'll compare it to Texas Terror following Texas St around. Seems the recent record against UND speaks for itself.
I'll just say there are good reasons why NDSU fans hate UND, some of which people in this board will never understand.
bincitysioux wrote:Point of fact: the North Dakota-NDSU series ended as a direct result of NDSU's decision to begin competition in a division that North Dakota did not compete in. Since North Dakota moved up to the same division in 2008, they have offered and been declined multiple times by NDSU to resume the series.

Cue the "Roger Thomas Press Conference" and "Gene Taylor has made the offer" anecdotes...................
Bullshit, Gene Taylor offered your AD a chance to play NDSU every other year, home and home which he declined because he would only play NDSU every year or not at all.
So it's NDSU's way or the highway? :roll: :roll: :roll:
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FargoBison wrote:
I'll just say there are good reasons why NDSU fans hate UND, some of which people in this board will never understand.

Bullshit, Gene Taylor offered your AD a chance to play NDSU every other year, home and home which he declined because he would only play NDSU every year or not at all.
So it's NDSU's way or the highway? :roll: :roll: :roll:
And UND only wanting to play every year is any different? :ohno: :ohno:

There is at least some flexibility in what our AD has offered. He did offer UND an annual game at one point...but that isn't going to happen again unless UND wants to play in Fargo every year.
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FargoBison wrote:
slycat wrote:NDSU haven't been this crazy in a few years. Its hard to not read a long and laugh though. Got to say NDSU seems obsessed with UND and follow every move they make. I'll compare it to Texas Terror following Texas St around. Seems the recent record against UND speaks for itself.
I'll just say there are good reasons why NDSU fans hate UND, some of which people in this board will never understand.
bincitysioux wrote:Point of fact: the North Dakota-NDSU series ended as a direct result of NDSU's decision to begin competition in a division that North Dakota did not compete in. Since North Dakota moved up to the same division in 2008, they have offered and been declined multiple times by NDSU to resume the series.

Cue the "Roger Thomas Press Conference" and "Gene Taylor has made the offer" anecdotes...................
Bullshit, Gene Taylor offered your AD recently a chance to play NDSU every other year, home and home which he declined because he would only play NDSU every year or not at all.

Roger Thomas is a horse's ass and a major reason why the game isn't being played today.
As I said...........cue the Roger Thomas and Gene Taylor references.......... :roll:

I must admit, I'm a bit surprised it took a little less than 24 hours for RT to be thrown under the bus.....................

By the way, how come Taylor can offer an "every other other year" contract in 2010, but in 2009 the commissioner of the Summit Football Conference forbid him to entertain the thought of playing North Dakota on the gridiron because of the nickname?
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What is the Summit football conference?

Roger Thomas is still a horse's ass, nothing will change that. I actually like UND's current admin though, I think Faison is coming around to the every other year idea and it is just a matter of time before something gets worked out. It helps that our university presidents seem to get along quite nicely. In 2009 we had a president that wasn't exactly excited about scheduling UND, especially in football.
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FargoBison wrote:What is the Summit football conference?

Roger Thomas is still a horse's ass. I actually like UND's current admin though, I think Faison is coming around to the every other year idea now that UND has a conference.
The Summit Football Conference is the one who governs who NDSU can play in football of course! Remember in 2009 when the ND legislature was throwing around the idea of mandating that North Dakota and NDSU play an annual football game? Gene Taylor was calling every radio station within a 200 mile radius of Fargo and delivering bullet points to the Fargo Forum to get out the word that that the Summit League forbid its members to play North Dakota because of the nickname.

The irony of course is the fact that the Summit League does not sponsor football. At the same time, North Dakota was releasing schedules for various other sports that included NDSU, SDSU, IPFW, and UMKC.

That is the Summit Football Conference. :?

Taylor is touting his "every other year" offer because he knows that North Dakota will not accept it. He is grand-standing, just like Al Carlson............
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This still seems like an NDSU - driven issue. Just look at what's been posted here. Nearly every non-NDSU person has been like "what the hell?" whereas every NDSU person suddenly becomes the NAACP spokesman.
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Honestly in that instance I think Taylor just was looking for an excuse, he was probably confused since the nickname issue and the Summit League was just one big mess.
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LDopaPDX wrote:This still seems like an NDSU - driven issue. Just look at what's been posted here. Nearly every non-NDSU person has been like "what the hell?" whereas every NDSU person suddenly becomes the NAACP spokesman.
Their poor record against UND stings deeply.
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LDopaPDX wrote:This still seems like an NDSU - driven issue. Just look at what's been posted here. Nearly every non-NDSU person has been like "what the hell?" whereas every NDSU person suddenly becomes the NAACP spokesman.
I've always thought UND did a decent job in respecting the name and thought they should get to keep the name, especially after the vote at Spirit Lake was hugely in favor of UND keeping the name. Most NDSU fans feel the same way, the lakesbison's and JBB's are in the vast minority.
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THE SPIRIT LAKE VOTE WHERE ONLY 25% OF POPULATION VOTED (i.e 75% didnt even give a sh.t)

D2 titles 7 for ndsu 1 for und. yea that record stings.

NDSU beating 4 FBS teams and ranked #1 in FCS twice

und never beating a fbs, never being ranked.

yea records. hey bincity... THIS THREAD IS ABOUT MONTANA or MONTANA STATE's ASSOC AD SAYING "UND IS OUT NO MATTER WHAT "

HAHA karma you racist F***!
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LDopaPDX wrote:This still seems like an NDSU - driven issue. Just look at what's been posted here. Nearly every non-NDSU person has been like "what the hell?" whereas every NDSU person suddenly becomes the NAACP spokesman.
Yea, you clearly know everything about this issue. It is funny to see people think they completely understand the nickname fiasco and probably have never been to North Dakota in their life. I am anti-political correctness and think the NCAA is making this way to much of a deal...however, this all happening the the university that I really despise? I'll sit back and watch and hope it goes on for a long enough time :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn:
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I also agree that it is not an "NDSU-driven" issue. I think they have one guy in their administration that has used it for cover because it suited him to do so. Gene Taylor has used every excuse under the sun from the nickname to claiming to offering to play on a specific date in 2011 that North Dakota was known to already have had scheduled with an FBS team for two years prior.

Their current A.D. felt slighted by the North Dakota A.D. that was serving when NDSU moved up to DI. However, RT's successor (remember Tom Bunning?) was willing to play in the Fargodome in 2007. Virtually all of the other sports are currently playing (except women's basketball which I believe is the fault of North Dakota's head coach).

I don't think that NDSU's instituition as a whole gives a rip about North Dakota's nickname.
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lakesbison wrote:......... hey bincity... THIS THREAD IS ABOUT MONTANA or MONTANA STATE's ASSOC AD SAYING "UND IS OUT NO MATTER WHAT "

HAHA karma you racist F***!
Funny.............

I thought this thread was about your mom falling asleep early and the computer was free..................

Any cops pulled you out of the office lately??........ :geek:
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lakesbison wrote:D2 titles 7 for ndsu 1 for und. yea that record stings.

NDSU beating 4 FBS teams and ranked #1 in FCS twice

und never beating a fbs, never being ranked.

yea records. hey bincity... THIS THREAD IS ABOUT MONTANA or MONTANA STATE's ASSOC AD SAYING "UND IS OUT NO MATTER WHAT "

HAHA karma you racist F***!

Lakes and JaBBer, NDSU's answer to Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson. 8-)

3-10 against UND. :ohno:

Yet to finish above .500 in the MVC. :ohno:
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hey BIN YOU FAT PRICK! ANSWER THAT!!


D2 titles 7 for ndsu 1 for und. yea that record stings.

NDSU beating 4 FBS teams and ranked #1 in FCS twice

und never beating a fbs, never being ranked, LOST TO NAIA TEAM
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bincitysioux wrote:I also agree that it is not an "NDSU-driven" issue. I think they have one guy in their administration that has used it for cover because it suited him to do so. Gene Taylor has used every excuse under the sun from the nickname to claiming to offering to play on a specific date in 2011 that North Dakota was known to already have had scheduled with an FBS team for two years prior.

Their current A.D. felt slighted by the North Dakota A.D. that was serving when NDSU moved up to DI. However, RT's successor (remember Tom Bunning?) was willing to play in the Fargodome in 2007. Virtually all of the other sports are currently playing (except women's basketball which I believe is the fault of North Dakota's head coach).

I don't think that NDSU's instituition as a whole gives a rip about North Dakota's nickname.
people can make fun of me all they want but BISON/sioux women's basketball games were some of the best between the schools. Ruley and Roebuck went back and forth so many times I loved it...also helped that both schools were two of the best teams in the nation at our prime.

But anyway, enough of thread drift from me...
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bincitysioux wrote:I also agree that it is not an "NDSU-driven" issue. I think they have one guy in their administration that has used it for cover because it suited him to do so. Gene Taylor has used every excuse under the sun from the nickname to claiming to offering to play on a specific date in 2011 that North Dakota was known to already have had scheduled with an FBS team for two years prior.

Their current A.D. felt slighted by the North Dakota A.D. that was serving when NDSU moved up to DI. However, RT's successor (remember Tom Bunning?) was willing to play in the Fargodome in 2007. Virtually all of the other sports are currently playing (except women's basketball which I believe is the fault of North Dakota's head coach).

I don't think that NDSU's instituition as a whole gives a rip about North Dakota's nickname.

OK. Let me rephrase... on this board, especially on this thread, this is an NDSU-driven issue. I seriously think people are delusional if they think more than about .01% of the American population give a rat's ass.
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houndawg wrote:Lakes and JaBBer, NDSU's answer to Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson. 8-)

3-10 against UND. :ohno:

Yet to finish above .500 in the MVC. :ohno:
I like it, but all kidding aside, NDSU isn't avoiding North Dakota because we've owned them over the last 20 years. But we are 62-45-3 against them all time :thumb: . Things go in cycles, they kicked our ass throughout the 80's and the 60's and probably through some stretches that I'm too lazy to research. We both have solid programs. They are avoiding us currently because they have one administrator with and axe to grind. Mark my words, we will never play as long as their current A.D. employed there, which is fine by me.

You do make a good point though about how shitty they do against the rest of the MVC............ :kisswink:
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lakesbison wrote:hey BIN YOU FAT PRICK! ANSWER THAT!!


D2 titles 7 for ndsu 1 for und. yea that record stings.

NDSU beating 4 FBS teams and ranked #1 in FCS twice

und never beating a fbs, never being ranked, LOST TO NAIA TEAM
I'm average sized, perhaps a bit overweight, but aren't we all. ;)

I thought DII was a joke, so why bring it up??..............we're both DI baby!!!!!! Wanna count DI titles? :coffee:

Any truth to the rumor that Fox News 9 is gonna run a story stalkers of state legislators? I hear they have an inside "source"................
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NDSUFREAK wrote: people can make fun of me all they want but BISON/sioux women's basketball games were some of the best between the schools. Ruley and Roebuck went back and forth so many times I loved it...also helped that both schools were two of the best teams in the nation at our prime.

But anyway, enough of thread drift from me...
Agree............

North Dakota/NDSU women's basketball were great, and in the grand scheme of things IMO, a far bigger loss in the whole DI move/NCC demise than was the football series. Two great programs that I feel both are struggling right now, not neccessarily competetivley, but just interest and significance wise. Don't understand why they haven't or are not scheduled to play each other...............I blame my favorit school's head coach for most of that.....
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LDopaPDX wrote:OK. Let me rephrase... on this board, especially on this thread, this is an NDSU-driven issue. I seriously think people are delusional if they think more than about .01% of the American population give a rat's ass.
I agree that nobody gives a hoot. It is a big deal in one of the smallest states in the union.
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