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Bison Fan in NW MN wrote:
dal4018 wrote: Hey Bison Fan you failed to mentioned that Smith has a track background and was a state champ in the 100/200 but too bad he's only 5-7 174 hope SHSU doesn't introduce Bump-N-Run tactics on him might be difficult for him to deal with.Bison Fan have the pefect matchup for your guy Smith say hello to Randy Stewart he's 5-11 200 and like his teammate Swanson can play safety as well and has a track background in the 400m so he's got the size and speed to keep up with Smith.
Our main WR is Warren Holloway. Smith is #2. Our #3 and #4 Wrs have been injured a lot of the year...although maybe Gebhart might be back for the NC game.

Your CBs are probably good but I'm sure they are not better than our All-American CB, Marcus Williams. In 2 years he'll be playing on sundays.
What is Williams 40 time just curious?It should be a good matchup Williams v Holloway too bad your guy Williams didn't get any votes for the Buchanan award but he should get some next yr and beyond
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Bison Fan in NW MN wrote:
Our main WR is Warren Holloway. Smith is #2. Our #3 and #4 Wrs have been injured a lot of the year...although maybe Gebhart might be back for the NC game.

Your CBs are probably good but I'm sure they are not better than our All-American CB, Marcus Williams. In 2 years he'll be playing on sundays.
What is Williams 40 time just curious?It should be a good matchup Williams v Holloway too bad your guy Williams didn't get any votes for the Buchanan award but he should get some next yr and beyond
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dal4018 wrote:
Bison Fan in NW MN wrote:
Our main WR is Warren Holloway. Smith is #2. Our #3 and #4 Wrs have been injured a lot of the year...although maybe Gebhart might be back for the NC game.

Your CBs are probably good but I'm sure they are not better than our All-American CB, Marcus Williams. In 2 years he'll be playing on sundays.
What is Williams 40 time just curious?It should be a good matchup Williams v Holloway too bad your guy Williams didn't get any votes for the Buchanan award but he should get some next yr and beyond



I think someone on Bisonville said in the summer practices that Marcus and Ryan Smith were the fastest guys on the team...40s between 4.4-4.5.
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As much as it pains me to say this, go Bearkats. The NDSU trolls seriously ruin a good fan base.
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JBB wrote:Montana, a team that can be justifiably described as a bad bison team, was able to muster 277 yds against the SHSU pass defense. I would expect The NDSU BISON could get all of that if need be. :nod:
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GSU had 10 "in the box" a lot of the time. BISON put up 321 yds rushing. The bad bison got 134 against SHSU. I think The NDSU BISON can do better than that.
You sure do have a serious case of Griz envy goin' on. You should get that checked. I can't recall a single post you've made in the past 3 weeks (since your inglorious return) that DIDN'T include a reference to the Griz.
talk about obssesions! :lol:

2 important games on the SHSU schedule:

1) Stony Brook. SB lost by seven but had 1 int to SHSUs 0 ints. Both SBs' star running backs had good days.

2) Montana - the bad bison - were unable to keep pace with the SHSU offense because they made a lot of mistakes. They were moving the ball well in the first quarter but always shot themselves in the foot including turn overs resulting in points for SHSU.

From what I have seen The BISON will have the right game plan. Its all in execution. I think the defense can disrupt the backfield and cause errors in judgment and execution resulting in TOs. I also think the BISON can move the ball as well as the bad bison, without the mistakes, keep pace with SHSU and win the game.
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dal4018 wrote:Sam Houston St has the 4th ranked pass defense giving up a extra stingy 98 yds per game as stated before Hansen will have to make his presence felt early and often.He will have company on the 7th of January say hello to DB Daxton Swanson he's ranked third in the country in interceptions he at 5-11 185 can play safety as well can't wait for this matchup especially in the red zone.Sam Houston's pass offense is ranked 103rd and NDSU is ranked 80th somebody will have to throw to win
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dal4018 wrote:
Bison Fan in NW MN wrote:
Hansen has not been part of the offense this season. IMO, Veldman (TE) is more important. Smith our other WR is very good with sure hands, these 3 weeks will help his hamstring heal.

Nothing fancy with NDSU's offense....line up and come right at you.
Hey Bison Fan you failed to mentioned that Smith has a track background and was a state champ in the 100/200 but too bad he's only 5-7 174 hope SHSU doesn't introduce Bump-N-Run tactics on him might be difficult for him to deal with.Bison Fan have the pefect matchup for your guy Smith say hello to Randy Stewart he's 5-11 200 and like his teammate Swanson can play safety as well and has a track background in the 400m so he's got the size and speed to keep up with Smith.
Smith normally lines up in the slot, where he is mismatched with LBs
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This three weeks thing is awful. I sure hope they revisit this and change it for the future. Please. No more than two weeks.
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JohnStOnge wrote:This three weeks thing is awful. I sure hope they revisit this and change it for the future. Please. No more than two weeks.
Two weeks would be better.
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Well two weeks puts it during New Year's this year, not exactly ideal. That said I'll take three weeks over one week anyday.
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dal4018 wrote:
FargoBison wrote:Matt Veldman, 6'7, TE and Holloway our are big redzone threats.

Hansen is a walk-on WR.
Okay thanks thought with his size 6-4 198 he would be in your teams plans can't wait to see Holloway saw some photos of him looked impressive where did you guys find Veldman 6-7 that is D1-A material.
Gotta go digging around small-town Minnesota for that breed of tight end, my friend. I expect other parts of the country turn those guys in o-linemen. He's probably more D-IA in size only, methinks. Not quite the athlete you find at the position at the FBS level.
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ming01 wrote:
dal4018 wrote:Sam Houston St has the 4th ranked pass defense giving up a extra stingy 98 yds per game as stated before Hansen will have to make his presence felt early and often.He will have company on the 7th of January say hello to DB Daxton Swanson he's ranked third in the country in interceptions he at 5-11 185 can play safety as well can't wait for this matchup especially in the red zone.Sam Houston's pass offense is ranked 103rd and NDSU is ranked 80th somebody will have to throw to win
You have no idea what you are talking about
So your saying that one of these teams running game will dominate against a possible 8 or 9 man front?
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ming01 wrote:
dal4018 wrote: Hey Bison Fan you failed to mentioned that Smith has a track background and was a state champ in the 100/200 but too bad he's only 5-7 174 hope SHSU doesn't introduce Bump-N-Run tactics on him might be difficult for him to deal with.Bison Fan have the pefect matchup for your guy Smith say hello to Randy Stewart he's 5-11 200 and like his teammate Swanson can play safety as well and has a track background in the 400m so he's got the size and speed to keep up with Smith.
Smith normally lines up in the slot, where he is mismatched with LBs
Oh okay thanks yes that will be to his advantage going up against a linebacker just hope he doesn't have catch up speed lol.
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dal4018 wrote: Okay thanks thought with his size 6-4 198 he would be in your teams plans can't wait to see Holloway saw some photos of him looked impressive where did you guys find Veldman 6-7 that is D1-A material.
Gotta go digging around small-town Minnesota for that breed of tight end, my friend. I expect other parts of the country turn those guys in o-linemen. He's probably more D-IA in size only, methinks. Not quite the athlete you find at the position at the FBS level.
Your right he would be a member of the O-line at a D1 school imagine him at Nebraska????
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The BISON offense is led by Sam Ojuri with 1,028 yds but running back DJ McNorton and WR Warran Holoway should easily break 1,000 Saturday with each needing less than 20 yds.

Thats a lot of offense. The 2 running backs are strong and dangerous, every carry is a potential touchdown. McNorton is also a dangerous receiver. Holloway is averaging just under 14 yds/catch. He has 75.

I dont know Ryan Smiths condition. He has been fighting a sore hamstring I think, but he is a dagerous receiver, rarely if ever drops a ball and adds a lot of yards after the catch. His injury has kept his numbers down but his effectiveness has been top notch.
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dal4018 wrote:
rkwittem wrote:
Gotta go digging around small-town Minnesota for that breed of tight end, my friend. I expect other parts of the country turn those guys in o-linemen. He's probably more D-IA in size only, methinks. Not quite the athlete you find at the position at the FBS level.
Your right he would be a member of the O-line at a D1 school imagine him at Nebraska????
Not what I'm saying. I'm saying most high school teams would see a guy that big and move his position before college.
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JBB wrote:The BISON offense is led by Sam Ojuri with 1,028 yds but running back DJ McNorton and WR Warran Holoway should easily break 1,000 Saturday with each needing less than 20 yds.

Thats a lot of offense. The 2 running backs are strong and dangerous, every carry is a potential touchdown. McNorton is also a dangerous receiver. Holloway is averaging just under 14 yds/catch. He has 75.

I dont know Ryan Smiths condition. He has been fighting a sore hamstring I think, but he is a dagerous receiver, rarely if ever drops a ball and adds a lot of yards after the catch. His injury has kept his numbers down but his effectiveness has been top notch.
Okay a balanced offense works for me three folks over 1,000 yds in rushing and receiving SHSU will have its hands full next saturday night.
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rkwittem wrote:
dal4018 wrote: Your right he would be a member of the O-line at a D1 school imagine him at Nebraska????
Not what I'm saying. I'm saying most high school teams would see a guy that big and move his position before college.
Okay point taken yes he would have been moved already.
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Some outstanding nationally ranked players will be on the field Saturday:

Marcus Williams (NDSU) #8 passes defended

Daxton Swanson (SHSU) & Marcus Williams (NDSU) ranked 3 & 4 INTs

Mike Littleton, (SHSU), #19 forced fumbles

Brian Bell (SHSU) #2 passing efficiency. Brock Jensen (NDSU) #20. It should be pointed out that Jensen has 60 more completions and 500 more yds.

Warren Holloway (NDSU) #19 receiving yds

Tim Flanders (SHSU) all purpose rushing #21. NDSU has faced 2 other running backs in the top 20 including Kyle Harbridge from St. Francis at #5. NDSU held him to well under 100 yds.

Both teams have several more players in the top 50 rankings but those are the top 25 guys I found. I also noticed a lot more players from the MVFC ranked individually than I did for the Southland.
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JBB wrote:Some outstanding nationally ranked players will be on the field Saturday:

Marcus Williams (NDSU) #8 passes defended

Daxton Swanson (SHSU) & Marcus Williams (NDSU) ranked 3 & 4 INTs

Mike Littleton, (SHSU), #19 forced fumbles

Brian Bell (SHSU) #2 passing efficiency. Brock Jensen (NDSU) #20. It should be pointed out that Jensen has 60 more completions and 500 more yds.

Warren Holloway (NDSU) #19 receiving yds

Tim Flanders (SHSU) all purpose rushing #21. NDSU has faced 2 other running backs in the top 20 including Kyle Harbridge from St. Francis at #5. NDSU held him to well under 100 yds.

Both teams have several more players in the top 50 rankings but those are the top 25 guys I found. I also noticed a lot more players from the MVFC ranked individually than I did for the Southland.
Originally I picked a blowout 40-7 for SHSU but I'am now changing my mind to a shootout instead 40-31 but I still say SHSU takes home the FCS crown
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I have NDSU BISON 35.5 SHSU 34.

NDSU is a very good team on the road. The stakes of the game also favor NDSU.

NDSU has won in Big 10 and Big 12 stadiums in each of the past 2 years. They have a history of winning big games on the road including at Washington Griz stadium and Montana State.

The NDSU BISON are 5-2 in national championship games.
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MWILL shuts down any WR

Heagle shuts down Flanders.

Game over
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lakesbison wrote:MWILL shuts down any WR

Heagle shuts down Flanders.

Game over
He can't shut down every WR they have he'll need help.
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dal4018 wrote: Okay thanks thought with his size 6-4 198 he would be in your teams plans can't wait to see Holloway saw some photos of him looked impressive where did you guys find Veldman 6-7 that is D1-A material.
Gotta go digging around small-town Minnesota for that breed of tight end, my friend. I expect other parts of the country turn those guys in o-linemen. He's probably more D-IA in size only, methinks. Not quite the athlete you find at the position at the FBS level.
You do realize that Veldman is from the Twin Cities metro and was a finalist for Mr Football. In no world would he have ever been turned into an OL, he wasn't even a great blocker until this year. If he wouldn't have had a number of injury issues he probably would be a legit NFL prospect, even so he might get a look as a free agent this year.

Not sure why he didn't get more FBS looks, that said a lot of MN preps get overlooked. The fact that there are only major college football programs in the region leave a lot of borderline talent on the table for the regional FCS programs to scoop up.
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