Eastern Kentucky?

[UNHWildCats]

Only thing I can think of is they tried to put some surprise into a field that should have had none.... Ridiculous that Eastern Kentucky is in and Illinois State isnt.

[BlueHen86]

here is the list they had for those that just got in and who just missed the cut.
Bubble teams
#16 Liberty 7-4
#17 Delaware 7-4
#18 Jacksonville State 7-4
# 20 James Madison 7-4 * in
Georgetown 8-3
Bethune-Cookman 8-3
Eastern Kentucky 7-4 * in

I can make a good argument for every team on that list except Jacksonville and EKU. 7-4 from a conference that never wins in the post season is just wrong.

[wkuhillhound]

The last time the OVC got a playoff win was 1997 THEY ARE 0 FOR THE THEIR LAST 18!

HOW THE **** DO THEY GET THE SAME NUMBER AS THE BSC AND MVFC?

I'll give you one guess as to who that was?

[wkuhillhound]

All Eastern Kentucky has to do is win a National Championship to prove everyone wrong. Just like WKU did in 2002......

[The Kicker]

Well at least we know they won't have a shot in hell of winning. Clears things up for the next round.

[JayJ79]

The last time the OVC got a playoff win was 1997 THEY ARE 0 FOR THE THEIR LAST 18!

HOW THE **** DO THEY GET THE SAME NUMBER AS THE BSC AND MVFC?

I'll give you one guess as to who that was?

a team that gets thrashed by Indiana State (despite having the luxury of 22 more scholarships)?

[wkuhillhound]

That's the last OVC team to win in the playoffs. WKU beat Florida A&M and then lost to Appalachian State in the quarters.

Also a team that is bowl eligible and that can position themselves into a better chance in getting into a bowl with a win over Troy next Saturday in Bowling Green. Thank you for the reminder and it shows the progress that WKU has made in the last 7 weeks and is now one of the hottest teams in FBS.

[kalm]

I'll give you one guess as to who that was?

a team that gets thrashed by Indiana State (despite having the luxury of 22 more scholarships)?

Kaboom

[LUnpretty11]

How did JMU get outbid? 25k strong? C'mon man!!!

[JoshuaTU]

"EKU athletic director Mark Sandy was on the 11- man selection committee. Although he couldn't be in the room when the merits of EKU were discussed, his presence in Indianapolis couldn't have hurt the Colonels, either."

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/sports/2011/11/2 ... z1eHE1p4o3" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[danefan]

I don't really care that they got in.

I do think someone (the Committee or ESPN OR NCAA) did the entire subdivision a disservice by sending JMU to EKU and having that the national TV game.

Stupid.

[BlueHen86]

"EKU athletic director Mark Sandy was on the 11- man selection committee. Although he couldn't be in the room when the merits of EKU were discussed, his presence in Indianapolis couldn't have hurt the Colonels, either."

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/sports/2011/11/2 ... z1eHE1p4o3" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

That explains a lot.

[lakesbison]

EKU, hahaha hilarious, i pray that they beat JMu then have to come ot he fargodome and get beat 50-0

[BlueHen86]

EKU, hahaha hilarious, i pray that they beat JMu then have to come ot he fargodome and get beat 50-0

If they are good enough to beat JMU, they are good enough to give NDSU a game. It won't be 50-0.

[Strommer10]

EKU, hahaha hilarious, i pray that they beat JMu then have to come ot he fargodome and get beat 50-0

If they are good enough to beat JMU, they are good enough to give NDSU a game. It won't be 50-0.

It won't be like Robert Morris last year lakes. I can promise you that. We SHOULD beat both teams regardless. But that is why they play the games isn't it.

[Purple Reign]

How did JMU get outbid? 25k strong? C'mon man!!!

Well , how did that Liberty bid work out for ya?

[dbackjon]

here is the list they had for those that just got in and who just missed the cut.
Bubble teams
#16 Liberty 7-4
#17 Delaware 7-4
#18 Jacksonville State 7-4
# 20 James Madison 7-4 * in
Georgetown 8-3
Bethune-Cookman 8-3
Eastern Kentucky 7-4 * in

I can make a good argument for every team on that list except Jacksonville and EKU. 7-4 from a conference that never wins in the post season is just wrong.

Disagree.

Liberty and Delawear didn't have 7 DI wins
BCU and G'town are from weaker conferences to begin with. BCU had same FCS record as EKU
EKU BEAT Jacksonville State at JSU

EKU played Kansas State very tough, losing 10-7.

EKU demolished EIU, which beat Illinois State.

While not a slam dunk, EKU is as worthy, or a better pick, than those teams you have mentioned.



Of course, if Delaware had played Davidson instead of WC, they may have been in.

[BearIt]

I said this on another thread, but I wonder if they looked at all the 7-4's with 7 DI wins and just took the one with the highest bid. Money talks.

[BlueHen86]

I can make a good argument for every team on that list except Jacksonville and EKU. 7-4 from a conference that never wins in the post season is just wrong.

Disagree.

Liberty and Delawear didn't have 7 DI wins
BCU and G'town are from weaker conferences to begin with. BCU had same FCS record as EKU
EKU BEAT Jacksonville State at JSU

EKU played Kansas State very tough, losing 10-7.

EKU demolished EIU, which beat Illinois State.

While not a slam dunk, EKU is as worthy, or a better pick, than those teams you have mentioned.



Of course, if Delaware had played Davidson instead of WC, they may have been in.

I don't think the Patriot is weaker than the OVC, The Patriot rep has won games in the playoffs in this decade, it wasn't that long ago that the Patriot team was in the finals. I'll take an 8-3 Patriot team over a 7-4 OVC team any day.

MEAC and OVC are likely a push since neither wins in post season. For that reason I'll take an 8-3 MEAC team over a 7-4 OVC team.

You are right about UD and Liberty. I've made the argument that the 7 D-I win rule is dumb, but UD and Liberty knew that rule and scheduled a non D-I anyway so they have no excuse.

[kalm]

You are right about UD and Liberty. I've made the argument that the 7 D-I win rule is dumb, but UD and Liberty knew that rule and scheduled a non D-I anyway so they have no excuse.

Try being in our shoes. This year we opened at UW, at USD, at Montana, and had top 5 MSU as our home opener. Next year we open at Idaho, at Washington State, bye, at Weber State, and Montana as our home opener. No DII's on the schedule, but the case has been made ad nauseum on our message board that we're setting ourselves up for failure. In certain situations, DII's might be the way to go.

[BlueHen86]

You are right about UD and Liberty. I've made the argument that the 7 D-I win rule is dumb, but UD and Liberty knew that rule and scheduled a non D-I anyway so they have no excuse.

Try being in our shoes. This year we opened at UW, at USD, at Montana, and had top 5 MSU as our home opener. Next year we open at Idaho, at Washington State, bye, at Weber State, and Montana as our home opener. No DII's on the schedule, but the case has been made ad nauseum on our message board that we're setting ourselves up for failure. In certain situations, DII's might be the way to go.

They could also adopt a system similiar to what PA high schools use. Give teams points for wins, points for wins by opponents (you get points every time a team that you played wins) and give them points depending on the level of their opponents (playing an FBS would earn more bonus points than playing and FCS, playing a D-II and lower would earn no bonus points).

I realize this may not be practical, but I'd be curious to see what this years playoff field would look like if this formula were in effect.

[Lehigh1985]

I'm sort of new to following FCS and I'm not familiar with all of the internal workings of selection but on the surface the selection of EKU stinks to high heaven of some sort of politics. How does a team with as many bad losses (and not terribly impressive wins) with something like nine or ten teams ranked higher et in... with a home game yet?

What confuses me is that the formula seems to be pretty much straight forward with most of the top 20 getting in which makes sense with anyone after 15-20 as they should expect to be "on the bubble". But then all of the sudden to see EKU who isn't even close to the top 20 let alone the top 15 get in? I'm totally puzzled. Like I said it stinks of system abuse and/or unfair influence. They do not deserve that spot by such a significant margin so easily defined and understood, that it's very hard to accept without suspecting the system has flaws.

If I were Illinois State, Delaware, North Dakota, Jackson State and maybe even San Diego, I'd be pretty darn upset and crying bloody foul. EKU only played ONE team in the playoffs (a bubble play-in team TT that just made it) and lost at HOME. Four losses, two to extremely bad teams, no quality wins, a ranking out of the top 25 and a creampuff schedule if you take K-State out and it sure seems to me these guys should be watching college football on TV at home this weekend. Every team in 1-AA should be raising an eyebrow and looking into this one further.

I'm a Lehigh fan and I watch everyone blast the Patriot for being weak. My 10-1 team is taking a road game after going 10-1 (and oh so close to 11-0) to a team ranked three or four spots bacvk of them. I'll accept that but I can't swallow this EKU selection. Something went amiss and it should be looked into. I can't find one reason this team got a bid other than the fact they played ONE BCS school tough (First game of the season and I'll bet K-State didn't treat it the way it should haave been). If you get that kind of credit for a loss, I'd tell Lehigh to schedule Penn State, Pitt UCONN and Syracuse and go 7-4 and get a home game and a number one ranking.

Sidenote... Did anyone notice that the top ranked team has the easiest schedule in FCS? Montana State wasn't much better. I think MS will have their hands full with NH and it will be a scoring fest! I also have a feeling that having played nothing but pansies, SHSU makes a quick exit. The only hope being that what seems like a pretty good defense on paper (again, against the easiest schedule in the FCS) might keep the score reasonable, like 35-10. But I can't see that team advancing. Their good luck is their seeding which gives them the winner of two marginal teams. If they get through Stony Brook or Albany... good luck with New Hampshire or Montana State. We'll see how good that defense is against a couple of monster offensive attacks. It ain't gonna' be Lamar...

[CatMom]

SHSU may have had an easier schedule but it's not the easiest in the whole of the FCS world. Likely easier than several of the other top teams but to say it was the easiest of the 134 teams is ignorant.
1 - they didn't schedule a DII (a lot of schools do)
2 - they won their FBS game (a bad FBS team but they still won)
3 - worthy of a 1 seed? Based soley on the 11-0 record, yes. Otherwise, I don't know for sure.
4 - an unhearalded SLC team surprised not too long ago. I can't tell you if SAM will do the same...a few weeks from now we'll know.

SAM is a young team (only 8 seniors and they are not all starters). No matter how well, or poorly, they do, they'll be back.