Rank the Final Four

[eagle1]

1. GSU
2. Montana
3. NDSU
4. SHSU

I think GSU and Montana will meet in Frisco with Montana coming out on top.

[Bear]

One team truly dominated this weekend, and clearly separated itself from the pack...the rest are in a 3-way slapfight for 2nd place.

I've got it like this:

1. Montana
2. Sam Houston State
3. NDSU
4. Georgia Southern

3 &4 are pretty interchangeable...

Not very bright.

1. NDSU (TIE)
1. Sam Houston (TIE)
3. GSU
4. Montana

Beating a team that has been overranked all sseason, much like MSU another team Montana beat, is not a measure of greatness. The performance at TN was also poor. UNI didnt have one good win all year and were convincingly beaten in both their big games. The only thing you can say is a good team should beat an inferior team by a large margin and all the winners did that. They are all good, but some not as good as others. Besides winning the BSC has not traditionally been a launching point for an NC. Thats a measure of the conference strength nationally.

I would also add that there are times when your posts want something for punctuation...this is one of them. Please proof-read before submitting.

[SunCoastBlueHen]

Tough to rank, but I do think the four best teams are left standing.

[AZGrizFan]

One team truly dominated this weekend, and clearly separated itself from the pack...the rest are in a 3-way slapfight for 2nd place.

I've got it like this:

1. Montana
2. Sam Houston State
3. NDSU
4. Georgia Southern

3 &4 are pretty interchangeable...

Not very bright.

1. NDSU (TIE)
1. Sam Houston (TIE)
3. GSU
4. Montana

Beating a team that has been overranked all sseason, much like MSU another team Montana beat, is not a measure of greatness. The performance at TN was also poor. UNI didnt have one good win all year and were convincingly beaten in both their big games. The only thing you can say is a good team should beat an inferior team by a large margin and all the winners did that. They are all good, but some not as good as others. Besides winning the BSC has not traditionally been a launching point for an NC. Thats a measure of the conference strength nationally.

Remind me again how many NC appearances the MFVC has in the past 15 years? And the Big Sky?

Oh, and how many titles?

Your logic is illogical.

[Monarch History]

1. GSU
2. SHSU
3. Montana
4. NDSU

IMHO I wouldn't be surprised if anyone of these teams won the NC.

[Cujo]

1. Montana
2. GaSo
3. SHSU
4. NDSU

[Theee Catrabbit]

1. NDSU
2.SHSU
3. GSU
4. Montana

You idiots....allowing NDSU to win a NC after a few years in FCS......
(This jinx better work)

[kemajic]

Not very bright.

1. NDSU (TIE)
1. Sam Houston (TIE)
3. GSU
4. Montana

Beating a team that has been overranked all sseason, much like MSU another team Montana beat, is not a measure of greatness. The performance at TN was also poor. UNI didnt have one good win all year and were convincingly beaten in both their big games. The only thing you can say is a good team should beat an inferior team by a large margin and all the winners did that. They are all good, but some not as good as others. Besides winning the BSC has not traditionally been a launching point for an NC. Thats a measure of the conference strength nationally.

Remind me again how many NC appearances the MFVC has in the past 15 years? And the Big Sky?

Oh, and how many titles?

Your logic is illogical.

He's must be one the "what have you done for me lately" guys. So who won it last year?

[cats2506]

SHSU
NDSU
GSU
Montana

+1

[slulionsfan]

Sam Houston
Georgia Southern
Montana
North Dakota State

[Grizalltheway]

Look what the cat dragged in! Been enjoying Pflu's gimmicky offense lately, 06?

[Screamin_Eagle174]

1. GSU
2. Montana
3. NDSU
4. SHSU

I think GSU and Montana will meet in Frisco with Montana coming out on top.

This, except I have GSU. The way the Griz are playing they would win, but since I've started following the Big Sky, I've learned to know better than to bet on Montana once they reach the championship game.

[Grizalltheway]

1. GSU
2. Montana
3. NDSU
4. SHSU

I think GSU and Montana will meet in Frisco with Montana coming out on top.

This, except I have GSU. The way the Griz are playing they would win, but since I've started following the Big Sky, I've learned to know better than to bet on Montana once they reach the championship game.

Big Game Bob ain't around anymore.

[EWURanger]

This is tough. Right now I would go with this:

Montana
SHSU
Ga Southern
NDSU

[JohnStOnge]

UNI should have been coming into THE Washington-Grizzly Stadium undefeated. They lost by one point to perennial Big 12 powerhouse Iowa State (a slayer of giants that would go on to demolish a highly-ranked Oklahoma State juggernaut), and came within one possession of beating a comically over-matched bison squad

I watched that game on TV and came away with the opposite impression. NDSU physically dominated. They dominated both lines of scrimmage. UNI stayed in the game because its quarterback did a good job of making plays and keeping plays alive with his feet.

But, again, it was a total mismatch on the line of scrimmage with NDSU having a big, obvious advantage there. NDSU is a far more physical team than UNI was. At least that was the impression I got watching that game. I came away thinking that the score did not reflect the difference between the teams. NDSU looked much better to me.

[JohnStOnge]

GSU
Montana
NDSU
Sam Houston State

It's actually a very tough call now other than saying GSU looks the best to me. It's kind of amazing to me that people could be ranking them last.

Who's going to stop their offense? Not going to happen. They averaged over 7 yards per carry against Alabama. You think any of the other teams in the final four would move the ball on Alabama like Georgia Southern did? That's a rhetorical question but c'mon. And they're guaranteed that they're not going to have to play in super cold weather too. One game in a dome then if they win that one a game in Texas.

Montana looked very good against UNI. And I think UNI was better than Sam Houston State's and NDSU's opponents.

NDSU is steady. And, remember, this is a program that has a winning record against BCS league teams including Minnesota this year. I doubt if Montana or Sam Houston State could've done that. Yes, I know Minnesota is a bad BCS league team. But I don't think either Montana or Sam Houston State could've beaten them. Also, having now seen all the teams in the final four play, I think NDSU is the most physical. They're stout on both lines of scrimmage. Very stout.

Sam Houston State was incredibly impressive Saturday and that significantly changed their achievement level. But it's still a team that just one Saturday earlier barely got by Stoney Brook and a team with which Western Illinois played competitvely at the beginning of the season. They beat start up program Texas San Antonio by 22-7. You look at their entire non conference performance on the year and that Montana State game is pretty much the only "eye opener" among them. Right now the way they looked against Montana State is the outlier among their non conference games. Beat Montana and it'll be less so. But right now it is.

Back to Montana. The interesting thing about Montana is that they have hardly ever won away from Missoula in the playoffs. Like you noticed that graphic in the game Friday night saying they were 10-1 going in in quarterfinals and 10-0 at home. that means they were 0-1 on the road in the quarters. Maybe a Montana fan can tell me what Montana's record is in the playoffs on other teams' home fields but the only one I can recall them ever winning was the 1995 national championship game against Marshall. One thing's for sure: Their "away" playoff record is pretty absysmal.

If they were playing in Missoula I'd think Sam Houston State had little to no shot. But they're not.

[Grizalltheway]

GSU
Montana
NDSU
Sam Houston State

It's actually a very tough call now other than saying GSU looks the best to me. It's kind of amazing to me that people could be ranking them last.

Who's going to stop their offense? Not going to happen. They averaged over 7 yards per carry against Alabama. You think any of the other teams in the final four would move the ball on Alabama like Georgia Southern did? That's a rhetorical question but c'mon. And they're guaranteed that they're not going to have to play in super cold weather too. One game in a dome then if they win that one a game in Texas.

Montana looked very good against UNI. And I think UNI was better than Sam Houston State's and NDSU's opponents.

NDSU is steady. And, remember, this is a program that has a winning record against BCS league teams including Minnesota this year. I doubt if Montana or Sam Houston State could've done that. Yes, I know Minnesota is a bad BCS league team. But I don't think either Montana or Sam Houston State could've beaten them. Also, having now seen all the teams in the final four play, I think NDSU is the most physical. They're stout on both lines of scrimmage. Very stout.

Sam Houston State was incredibly impressive Saturday and that significantly changed their achievement level. But it's still a team that just one Saturday earlier barely got by Stoney Brook and a team with which Western Illinois played competitvely at the beginning of the season. They beat start up program Texas San Antonio by 22-7. You look at their entire non conference performance on the year and that Montana State game is pretty much the only "eye opener" among them. Right now the way they looked against Montana State is the outlier among their non conference games. Beat Montana and it'll be less so. But right now it is.

Back to Montana. The interesting thing about Montana is that they have hardly ever won away from Missoula in the playoffs. Like you noticed that graphic in the game Friday night saying they were 10-1 going in in quarterfinals and 10-0 at home. that means they were 0-1 on the road in the quarters. Maybe a Montana fan can tell me what Montana's record is in the playoffs on other teams' home fields but the only one I can recall them ever winning was the 1995 national championship game against Marshall. One thing's for sure: Their "away" playoff record is pretty absysmal.

If they were playing in Missoula I'd think Sam Houston State had little to no shot. But they're not.

Why is it that no one remembers us beating #1 seeded JMU in Harrisonburg in '08?

[JohnStOnge]

Why is it that no one remembers us beating #1 seeded JMU in Harrisonburg in '08?

Fair enough. I did miss that one. But you have to admit the playoff record is still pretty abysmal on opponents' home fields.

[JBB]

UNI didnt have one good win all year and were convincingly beaten in both their big games.

UNI should have been coming into THE Washington-Grizzly Stadium undefeated. They lost by one point to perennial Big 12 powerhouse Iowa State (a slayer of giants that would go on to demolish a highly-ranked Oklahoma State juggernaut), and came within one possession of beating a comically over-matched bison squad at "the enclosure". Had NDSU been required to adhere to having only 11 men on the field, this one would have gotten out of hand in rather alarming fashion. In Fargo, however, this quaint "rule of the game" is not even a minor hurdle, and the bison took to the (ridiculous) Fargoturf accompanied by 7 of their best friends! 18 on 11 was too much for even the mighty Panthers of Northern Iowa (but oh-so-barely).
Being man-handled by THE Montana Grizzlies is, of course, nothing to be ashamed of. And I'll probably get myself in hot water with the ever-humble brain-trust in Missoula (a.k.a. the coaching staff), but the careful observer may have noticed that the Grizzlies played 3 1/2 quarters of that football game with only 6 men on the field-the SAME 6 men both ways!!
Oh Montana, You are Marvelous!!!

UNI played Iowa State on a bad day. If you are trying to make a case for some kind of moral victory for them thats fine. Everybody deserves a participation trophy. NDSU actually wins their BIG 10/Big 12 BCS/FBS games.

What UNI should have done and what they did do are different things. In a division where some will brag its won on the field you sure make a case for what "might have been" and seem to be dismissing what actually happened. UNI was no good. Thats why they lost every big game they had and for the most part were convincingly beaten.

The BIG Teams in this division are NDSU and GSU. Thats the game.

The other game has Montana and is a perfect Jr Bowl lead-in game to the main event: GSU @ NDSU BISON*.

[JBB]

I think Montanas quarter final playoff record is more a measure of how weak the BSC is. How many other conferences have teams that are so weak that even an average program that really "puts on a show" at home can win it that much?

[Grizalltheway]

I think Montanas quarter final playoff record is more a measure of how weak the BSC is. How many other conferences have teams that are so weak that even an average program that really "puts on a show" at home can win it that much?

How many national champions from the MVFC/Gateway in the last 15 years, cock-breath dumb-shit?

[AlwaysAGriz]

Seeing how everyone else has been ranking teams, it is clear that this is a wide open race for the chipper. I could see any of the four teams winning.

NDSU has played well pretty much all year, they do have a good home-field advantage in the FargoDome and because of that, it will be tough for GSU to come in and get the win.

GSU looks great, hadn't paid much attention to them during the regular season but they've caught my eye this post season, their offense looks tough to prepare for and they do have speed which could give the Bison some trouble.

SHSU surprised the hell out of me on Saturday. But then, I realized they were playing the bobcats who never fail finding a way to piss down their legs in the playoffs. I do not think they deserved the number 1 ranking simply for the fact that they went undefeated, but you cant blame them for winning every game they've been given.

The Griz started off this year a bit iffy, I was unsure about how they would come out this year with a new Quarterback, a second year coach, and a lot of questions, especially after Tripp was injured. The loss to Sac State was embarrassing and gave me worries, but they seem to have returned to form. They are playing great football right now and have definitely peaked at the right time. (of course I'm a homer... I'm a damn Griz fan, what do you expect)

BUT after all that, I would still put it in this order NOT putting homefield advantage into the equation

1. Griz ( Shocker!)
2. GSU
3. NDSU ( Blasphemy!)
4. SHSU (yes, you guys have taken care of business, and beat the Cats handily but.... they're the cats...)

[mainejeff]

1. GSU
2. Montana
3. SHSU
4. NDSU

[AlwaysAGriz]

So I went through and put all the votes that were placed except for the 1.NDSU... 2. Packers are whatever.... into a list giving 1st place votes 4 points, 2nd place votes 3 points, etc.. and what I came up with was

1. Griz 90 points
2. Georgia Southern 71 points
2. Sam Houston State 71 points
4. NDSU 57 points

So take it for what its worth... which really is not that much.

[htownbearkat]

GSU
Montana
NDSU
Sam Houston State

It's actually a very tough call now other than saying GSU looks the best to me. It's kind of amazing to me that people could be ranking them last.

Who's going to stop their offense? Not going to happen. They averaged over 7 yards per carry against Alabama. You think any of the other teams in the final four would move the ball on Alabama like Georgia Southern did? That's a rhetorical question but c'mon. And they're guaranteed that they're not going to have to play in super cold weather too. One game in a dome then if they win that one a game in Texas.

Montana looked very good against UNI. And I think UNI was better than Sam Houston State's and NDSU's opponents.

NDSU is steady. And, remember, this is a program that has a winning record against BCS league teams including Minnesota this year. I doubt if Montana or Sam Houston State could've done that. Yes, I know Minnesota is a bad BCS league team. But I don't think either Montana or Sam Houston State could've beaten them. Also, having now seen all the teams in the final four play, I think NDSU is the most physical. They're stout on both lines of scrimmage. Very stout.

Sam Houston State was incredibly impressive Saturday and that significantly changed their achievement level. But it's still a team that just one Saturday earlier barely got by Stoney Brook and a team with which Western Illinois played competitvely at the beginning of the season. They beat start up program Texas San Antonio by 22-7. You look at their entire non conference performance on the year and that Montana State game is pretty much the only "eye opener" among them. Right now the way they looked against Montana State is the outlier among their non conference games. Beat Montana and it'll be less so. But right now it is.

Back to Montana. The interesting thing about Montana is that they have hardly ever won away from Missoula in the playoffs. Like you noticed that graphic in the game Friday night saying they were 10-1 going in in quarterfinals and 10-0 at home. that means they were 0-1 on the road in the quarters. Maybe a Montana fan can tell me what Montana's record is in the playoffs on other teams' home fields but the only one I can recall them ever winning was the 1995 national championship game against Marshall. One thing's for sure: Their "away" playoff record is pretty absysmal.

If they were playing in Missoula I'd think Sam Houston State had little to no shot. But they're not.

USTA game was never in doubt. Full of penalties and oh by the way our starting QB did not play that game. You gave us no shot last week vs MSU either. Ever consider the fact that Stoney Brook was a very solid team? They did take UTEP to overtime. All we have to do is keep winning, may never be enough for some though.
Cant wait to see it play out on Friday. BTW next season we will actually have upperclassmen in the backfield.