clenz's 4th annual pick 'em extravaganza ('12-'13)

[SuperHornet]

Does your new system allow you to tease out differences in voting between AGS and CS to indicate an institutional bias on either board?

[clenz]

Not on it's own....that would take some work by me as of now....working on a system that splits CS and AGS

[Brock Landers]

So, stupid question maybe... I entered my (same) picks on AGS and here. Should I just do one? If so can you delete of of my entries

[clenz]

You can do both...the sites are running separately.

[Ursus A. Horribilis]

Not on it's own....that would take some work by me as of now....working on a system that splits CS and AGS

The system is already in place it just isn't being used as of yet cuz I was wondering when you are closing this down for picks and so forth? You hadn't answered that last pm but if you want to look at them separately I'll make a temporary sheet now for ya.

[Ursus A. Horribilis]

They ya go clenz. Go check the tabs and you'll see the separation to look at.

[clenz]

Ill recheck my pm when.I get home from work

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[clenz]

Just a quick heads up....As I pointed out in my original picks game Louisville is my second FBS team (I also have family in the Louisville area). Due to those factors I just finalized plans for a trip to the Louisville/Kentucky game Sept 2nd in Louisville.

I'm leaving Cedar Falls Aug 30 and won't be back until very late Monday night Sept 3rd. I'm taking Tuesday Sept 4 off of work to catch up on rest (12 hour drive that I do in one day).

What that means is that the scores/games might not be up until Tuesday Sept 4 for week 2.

I appreciate your understanding.

[SuperHornet]

No big, clenz. You get big props for even doing this. A potential hitch for ONE week (or even a few more) out of a season as long as this is is nothing to worry about.

Hope you get through that trip safely and have fun.

[JMU DJ]

JMU DJ's 2nd Annual Boycott of Clenz's tyranny

[∞∞∞]

FWIW, ODU can't receive the CAA's AQ...only an at-large. It shouldn't be an option on the sheet.

[FAMU Rattler70]

1. North Dakota State vs. Robert Morris
3. Georgia Southern vs. Jacksonville
4. Montana State vs. Chadron State (D2)
5. Appalachian State @ East Carolina (FBS)
6. Northern Iowa @ Wisconsin (FBS)
7. Old Dominion vs. Duquesne
8. Montana vs. South Dakota
9. James Madison vs. St. Francis (PA)
10. Towson @ Kent State (FBS) THURSDAY AUG 30th
11. Lehigh vs. Monmouth
13. Wofford @ Gardner-Webb
14. New Hampshire @ Holy Cross THURSDAY AUG 30th
15. Stony Brook vs. Central Connecticut State
16. Delaware vs. West Chester (D2) THURSDAY AUG 30th
17. Central Arkansas @ Ole Miss (FBS)
18. Eastern Washington @ Idaho THURSDAY AUG 30th
19. Illinois State vs. Dayton
20. Youngstown State @ Pittsburgh (FBS)
21. Cal Poly vs. San Diego
22. Eastern Kentucky @ Purdue (FBS)
23. Indiana State @ Indiana (FBS)
24. Liberty @ Wake Forest (FBS)
25. Chattanooga @ South Florida (FBS)

FCS toss ups
Southern Illinois @ Eastern Illinois THURSDAY AUG 30th
Sacramento State @ New Mexico State (FBS)
Western Carolina vs. Mars Hill (D2...finishes last season 8-3, D2 quarterfinalist.

FBS toss ups:
Alabama vs. Michigan - Played in Cowboy Stadium in Arlington, TX
Boise State @ Michigan State FRIDAY AUG 31st
Notre Dame vs. Navy - played in Dublin, Ireland
Louisville vs. Kentucky SUNDAY SEPT 2nd

[clenz]

Wrong...use the form in the link

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[Screamin_Eagle174]

Well I was going to wait until I had my Phil Steele mag, but they fucked up or something and it hasn't arrived.

[JohnStOnge]

Post how each person did on picking the 30 games so I can how Sagarin and Massey did to the distribution of results. Of course Sagarin could only pick 27 of the games because it doesn't do D2. The first week's games were pretty easy and also both systems don't get fully "connected" until there are enough games. But it'll still be interesting to follow. Here's how the two systems did for week 1:

Sagarin 24 - 3 (20 - 1 for FCS top 25)
Games wrong:
Youngstown State at Pitt
Southern Illinois at Eastern Illinois
Boise State at Michigan State

Massey 27 - 3 (21 - 2 for FCS top 25)
Games wrong:
Eastern Washington at Idaho
Youngstown State at Pitt
Southern Illinois at Eastern Illinois

I'll say ahead of time that it's likely that somebody did better just by random chance because there are 22 people involved and most of the picks were pretty easy. As we get more and more games through the season including more games that are harder to call the less likely that will be to happen. Still could happen and we could test whether it's the case or not if and when the time comes. But less likely than now.

[clenz]

I know some have been asking to see the results. Here is an overview of the results by picks. I just got back from a great trip to Louisville today, so I'll work on getting individual scores posted tomorrow and a new sheet up tomorrow. This is a composite for ALL picks. I'll post a breakdown of just CS as well when I get there. DISCLAIMER: There were two test sheets submitted - one with all the top line picks, the other with all of the bottom line picks with one from CS and one from AGS. So, take one away from each column and you have your total.



Which Site Is This Submission For?

AGS 43 65%
CS 23 35%

1. North Dakota State 65 98%
Robert Morris 1 2%

3. Georgia Southern 65 98%
Jacksonville 1 2%

4. Montana State 65 98%
Chadron State (D2) 1 2%

5. Appalachian State 14 21%
East Carolina (FBS) 52 79%

6. Northern Iowa 5 8%
Wisconsin (FBS) 61 92%

7. Old Dominion 61 92%
Duquense 5 8%

8. Montana 64 97%
South Dakota 2 3%

9. James Madison 65 98%
St. Francis (PA) 1 2%

10. Towson 20 30%
Kent State (FBS) 44 67%

11. Lehigh 64 97%
Monmouth 2 3%

13. Wofford 65 98%
Gardner-Webb 1 2%

14. New Hampshire 61 92%
Holy Cross 5 8%

15. Stony Brook 63 95%
Central Connecticut State 3 5%

16. Delaware 65 98%
West Chester (D2) 1 2%

17. Central Arkansas 1 2%
Ole Miss (FBS) 65 98%

18. Eastern Washington 42 64%
Idaho 24 36%

19. Illinois State 64 97%
Dayton 2 3%

20. Youngstown State 3 5%
Pittsburgh (FBS) 63 95%

21. Cal Poly 64 97%
San Diego 2 3%

22. Eastern Kentucky 3 5%
Purdue (FBS) 63 95%

23. Indiana State 9 14%
Indiana (FBS) 57 86%

24. Liberty 3 5%
Wake Forest (FBS) 63 95%

25. Chattanooga 1 2%
South Florida (FBS) 65 98%

Eastern Illinois 13 20%
Southern Illinois 53 80%

Sacramento State 16 24%
New Mexico State (FBS) 50 76%

Western Carolina 57 86%
Mars Hill (D2) 9 14%

Michigan 9 14%
Alabama 57 86%

Michigan State 37 56%
Boise State 29 44%

Notre Dame 61 92%
Navy 5 8%

Louisville 47 71%
Kentucky 19 29%

[clenz]

Total points sheet has been updated and now includes totals, a sheet for each persons picks week by week, as well as seeing the other sites picks. I'll be adding some color touches over time as well.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc ... YQ0E#gid=0" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

LINK FOR WEEK 2 PICKS....NO GAMES BEFORE SATURDAY. PICKS DUE 9AM CENTRAL SATURDAY MORNING

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/vie ... c6MA#gid=0" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[ming01]

dont see my name on there and i entered my picks right when you put this up. i guess something must have happened

[Vidav]

dont see my name on their and i entered my picks right when you put this up. i guess something must have happened

I did the same thing. Make sure you choose the CS totals sheet at the bottom. You ended up with 27 points.

[ming01]

oh im an idiot lol

[clenz]

Break down of the picks that have been submitted thus far. Seems like games are completely 1 sided....or a 5050 split


1. North Dakota State 14 47%
Colorado State (FBS) 16 53%

2. Sam Houston State 30 100%
Incarnate Word (D2) 0 0%

3. Georgia Southern 29 97%
The Citadel 1 3%

4. Montana State 30 100%
Drake 0 0%

5. Northern Iowa 30 100%
Central State (OH) (D2) 0 0%

6. Old Dominion 30 100%
Hampton 0 0%

7. James Madison 30 100%
Alcorn State 0 0%

8. Appalachian State 17 57%
10. Montana 13 43%

9. Youngstown State 30 100%
Valparaiso 0 0%

11. Eastern Washingon 7 23%
Washington State (FBS) 23 77%

12. Wofford 30 100%
Lincoln University (D2) 0 0%

13. New Hampshire 7 23%
Minnesota (FBS) 23 77%

15. Lehigh 29 97%
Central Connecticut State 1 3%

16. Maine 2 7%
Boston College (FBS) 28 93%

17. Stony Brook 30 100%
Pace (D2) 0 0%

18. Delaware 30 100%
Delaware State 0 0%

19. Illinois State 7 23%
Eastern Michigan (FBS) 23 77%

20. McNeese State 30 100%
McMurry 0 0%

21. Central Arkansas 27 90%
Murray State 3 10%

23. Indiana State 30 100%
Quincy (D2) 0 0%
21

South Carolina State 19 63%
Bethune-Cookman 10 33%
22

24. Liberty 28 93%
Norfolk State 2 7%

25. William and Mary 29 97%
Lafayette 1 3%

North Dakota 22 73%
Portland State 8 27%

Furman 27 90%
Coastal Carolina 3 10%
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Southeastern Louisiana 5 17%
South Dakota State 25 83%

Virginia 24 80%
Penn State 6 20%

Iowa 22 73%
Iowa State 8 27%

Arizona State 19 63%
Illinois 11 37%

UNLV 27 90%
Northern Arizona 3 10%

[clenz]

One more update.


The Total Sheet in my signature has all the picks and totals for each site listed on tabs on the bottom. You can see what each person picked and their total points.

I added your schools colors to your name on the sheet. If I got it wrong it's because you don't have a school listed - or you try to claim about a billion schools as "your home team" and I just made it pink and yellow.

[clenz]

1 HOUR LEFT TO GET WEEK 2 PICKS IN!


As of right now EVERY SINGLE GAME is at least 2/3's picks of the same team.....The closest picked game is NDSU/CSU, and CSU leads that 65% to 35%, and 1 or two others right at 67% to 33%. After that they start dropping into the 80% to 100% pick ratio very quickly.

[clenz]

Also, I'm seeing a good number of people submitting both picks. This week, and week 1 I took the first submitted picks. Starting next week if there is duplicates I WILL NOT BE ACCEPTING THEM PERIOD! No different than anything else ONLY ONE VOTE!

[CoachL]

Also, I'm seeing a good number of people submitting both picks. This week, and week 1 I took the first submitted picks. Starting next week if there is duplicates I WILL NOT BE ACCEPTING THEM PERIOD! No different than anything else ONLY ONE VOTE!

To be clear, clenz...

There are two separate games - AGS and CS. I assume that one needs to submit two separate sets of picks. (I, for one have two different user names.)

Your voting form asks for which game this vote is for. I vote one time for AGS, then another time for CS. If this is wrong, you and your own form have NOT BEEN CLEAR.

Please clarify, both here and on your voting form.

Thanks!