Montana "thing"

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

Favorable seeding?? NDSU in the quarterfinals....that is favorable

Sh**, with all of the Griz homers on here, I'm sure they have that game penciled in as a sure win.

[Vidav]

$$$$$$

Should we really be surprised by anything the NCAA does? What a joke.


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Don't be thick, dude. What's the difference (money-wise) between us hosting a first round game or a second round one? Either way we'd be on the road the next week.

Not if NDSU loses their first game.

[Grizzlies1982]

Montana gets the seed over a conference mate who pummeled them because of revenue. Not rocket science.

Think that through again. $$$ make no sense for their reasoning.
As others pointed out Montana would host ONE playoff game in either the 1st or 2nd round, then be on the road. Same $$$ regardless. The importance of the seed is large because of having a bye week to rest and prepare. The committee has their reasons, yet it would not be due to dollars.

[Brock Landers]

Favorable seeding?? NDSU in the quarterfinals....that is favorable

Sh**, with all of the Griz homers on here, I'm sure they have that game penciled in as a sure win.

Number of Bison fans that will pencil in a matchup with Montana as a "sure win": 95-99%
Number of Griz fans that will pencil in a matchup with NDSU as a "sure win": 0.1-1%

[BlackFalkin]

So montana fans. Would u rather have the 8 seed and have to face ndsu in the quarterfinals. Or have a first round game and play the 2,3 or 4 seed??

[Brock Landers]

So montana fans. Would u rather have the 8 seed and have to face ndsu in the quarterfinals. Or have a first round game and play the 2,3 or 4 seed??

I'd rather have the NDSU game. Not because we have much chance of winning, but because it will give us the extra motivation to go back their next year and earn payback on a lesser Bison squad (with a depleted MSU and NAU, and a tough OOC schedule to toughen us up UM could make a legit title run next year)

I think NAU has a better chance of making the semis

[uofmman1122]

Number of Bison fans that will pencil in a matchup in the NC as a "sure thing": 95-99%

Let's be entirely honest here.

[DoubleNicks]

Ok, then what's the justification then genius? You finished 3rd in the conference behind NAU, and that same NAU demolished you. Polls be damned.

NAU got screwed, plain and simple.


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Better SRS, which the committee said would play a large part in the selection process. Any other questions?

Montana had a better GPI, SRS, SOS and overall record than Northern Arizona. (NAU had two byes and didn't have to play the conference champions.) The only advantage NAU had was the head-to-head. By your logic, MSU should have gotten in over NAU and UC Davis should have gotten in over SUU since they owned the head-to-heads. I agree it could have gone either way for the seed but one game doesn't make the entire season.

[rationalgriz]

I wish people would quit using the "MSU should get in over NAU" argument when looking to discount the NAU win over the Griz. They are trying to compare apples to oranges. One situation is comparing a 10-2 team with a 9-2 team for a seed, the other is comparing a 9-2 team with a 7-5 team not in the playoffs. Does NAU have a gripe, you bet. It looks as thought NAU hosed themselves by only playing 11 games, hurt them in overall wins and possibly in the SRS and GPI.

[Grizalltheway]

Don't be thick, dude. What's the difference (money-wise) between us hosting a first round game or a second round one? Either way we'd be on the road the next week.

Not if NDSU loses their first game.

Ha. Good one.

[EWURanger]

Better SRS, which the committee said would play a large part in the selection process. Any other questions?

Montana had a better GPI, SRS, SOS and overall record than Northern Arizona. (NAU had two byes and didn't have to play the conference champions.) The only advantage NAU had was the head-to-head. By your logic, MSU should have gotten in over NAU and UC Davis should have gotten in over SUU since they owned the head-to-heads. I agree it could have gone either way for the seed but one game doesn't make the entire season.

So again...computer models. Great argument.

Here's another one - anyone care to explain how the NUMBER 8 SEED draws the winner of Bethune-Cookman and Coastal Carolina, while the number 3 seed gets the winner of NAU and SDSU? I'll be waiting.

[rationalgriz]

Montana had a better GPI, SRS, SOS and overall record than Northern Arizona. (NAU had two byes and didn't have to play the conference champions.) The only advantage NAU had was the head-to-head. By your logic, MSU should have gotten in over NAU and UC Davis should have gotten in over SUU since they owned the head-to-heads. I agree it could have gone either way for the seed but one game doesn't make the entire season.

So again...computer models. Great argument.

Here's another one - anyone care to explain how the NUMBER 8 SEED draws the winner of Bethune-Cookman and Coastal Carolina, while the number 3 seed gets the winner of NAU and SDSU? I'll be waiting.

Because if you look at the SRS, Coastal Carolina and Fordham are rated higher than NAU and SDSU. Heck, Bethune is rated higher than SDSU.

[Grizalltheway]

Montana had a better GPI, SRS, SOS and overall record than Northern Arizona. (NAU had two byes and didn't have to play the conference champions.) The only advantage NAU had was the head-to-head. By your logic, MSU should have gotten in over NAU and UC Davis should have gotten in over SUU since they owned the head-to-heads. I agree it could have gone either way for the seed but one game doesn't make the entire season.

So again...computer models. Great argument.

Here's another one - anyone care to explain how the NUMBER 8 SEED draws the winner of Bethune-Cookman and Coastal Carolina, while the number 3 seed gets the winner of NAU and SDSU? I'll be waiting.

The committee uses computer models in determining selections/seeds. You don't have to like it, but it's a fact, and one that you should stop whining about already.

[DoubleNicks]

So montana fans. Would u rather have the 8 seed and have to face ndsu in the quarterfinals. Or have a first round game and play the 2,3 or 4 seed??

I'd rather have the NDSU game. Not because we have much chance of winning, but because it will give us the extra motivation to go back their next year and earn payback on a lesser Bison squad (with a depleted MSU and NAU, and a tough OOC schedule to toughen us up UM could make a legit title run next year)

I think NAU has a better chance of making the semis

I like that thought process. If the Griz make it to Fargo it will be an extremely tough matchup but I honestly think Eastern Illinios would've been a worse matchup for the Griz (only based off watching 1 NDSU game and 3 EIU games, though). I'm also glad the Griz don't have to go to SELA immediately, since the Griz always seem to struggle on the road to Southland teams (just like they struggle at WaGriz).

Honestly, between a road game at one of the seeds, I would have liked to have gone to Cheney. Rivalry game, short travel, lots of Griz fans able to make it, extra motivation and chance for redemption from falling just short earlier this year, and the Griz seem to play EWU better there than in WaGriz.

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

So montana fans. Would u rather have the 8 seed and have to face ndsu in the quarterfinals. Or have a first round game and play the 2,3 or 4 seed??

I'd rather have the NDSU game. Not because we have much chance of winning, but because it will give us the extra motivation to go back their next year and earn payback on a lesser Bison squad (with a depleted MSU and NAU, and a tough OOC schedule to toughen us up UM could make a legit title run next year)

I think NAU has a better chance of making the semis

The Bison lose 24 seniors this year but will be very good next year as well. The defense rotates many players in and the offense will be good next year also.

The Bison will drop off some, you would expect that with this senior class graduating, but they will be in the 'hunt' next year too.

[kalm]

So again...computer models. Great argument.

Here's another one - anyone care to explain how the NUMBER 8 SEED draws the winner of Bethune-Cookman and Coastal Carolina, while the number 3 seed gets the winner of NAU and SDSU? I'll be waiting.

You mean the same computer models that helped them chose a 2nd MEAC and three OVC's?

The committee uses computer models in determining selections/seeds. You don't have to like it, but it's a fact, and one that you should stop whining about already.

[EWURanger]

So again...computer models. Great argument.

Here's another one - anyone care to explain how the NUMBER 8 SEED draws the winner of Bethune-Cookman and Coastal Carolina, while the number 3 seed gets the winner of NAU and SDSU? I'll be waiting.

The committee uses computer models in determining selections/seeds. You don't have to like it, but it's a fact, and one that you should stop whining about already.

Oh give me a fucking break. If the roles were reversed, and the following happened:

1.) UM beat NAU and finished one spot higher in the conference, with one less conference loss.

AND

2.) UM finished 8-0 in the Big Sky, but somehow drew a much more difficult matchup as the NUMBER 3 SEED (regardless of who wins in the first round) than a conference mate who drew the NUMBER 8 SEED.

Egriz would be going full retard. And you know it. So just stop the charade, and admit the playoff committee is a joke and that the Griz got over big time.

But Sagarin and the RPI says it's right, so it must be gospel.

[DoubleNicks]

Montana had a better GPI, SRS, SOS and overall record than Northern Arizona. (NAU had two byes and didn't have to play the conference champions.) The only advantage NAU had was the head-to-head. By your logic, MSU should have gotten in over NAU and UC Davis should have gotten in over SUU since they owned the head-to-heads. I agree it could have gone either way for the seed but one game doesn't make the entire season.

So again...computer models. Great argument.

Here's another one - anyone care to explain how the NUMBER 8 SEED draws the winner of Bethune-Cookman and Coastal Carolina, while the number 3 seed gets the winner of NAU and SDSU? I'll be waiting.

I'll agree with you there. In my opinion, the Griz got the better draw (I don't really know much about Bethune-Cookman or Coastal Carolina, though). Although, from what I've seen of SDSU, I will be surprised if they give NAU much of a game (SDSU's O plays to the strengths of NAU's D).

And if we didn't have the strength of schedule computer ratings then there would be teams like San Diego, Fordham, Liberty, and Lehigh getting seeds every year because they rack up the wins in weak conferences.

[uofmman1122]

The committee uses computer models in determining selections/seeds. You don't have to like it, but it's a fact, and one that you should stop whining about already.

Oh give me a fucking break. If the roles were reversed, and the following happened:

1.) UM beat NAU and finished one spot higher in the conference, with one less conference loss.

AND

2.) UM finished 8-0 in the Big Sky, but somehow drew a much more difficult matchup as the NUMBER 3 SEED (regardless of who wins in the first round) than a conference mate who drew the NUMBER 8 SEED.

Egriz would be going full retard. And you know it. So just stop the charade, and admit the playoff committee is a joke and that the Griz got over big time.

But Sagarin and the RPI says it's right, so it must be gospel.

This exact situation has happened to the Griz more times than EWU has made the playoffs.

Before 2010, CAA and Southern teams ALWAYS got to play the terrible eastern non power conference teams, while Montana had to play good MVC or Southland teams.

Certain teams are always going to get lucky draws. If you can't beat any team in the field, you won't get far. Just worry about who you have to face.

Also, cry more.

Seriously you guys are such whiners.

[Brock Landers]

I'd rather have the NDSU game. Not because we have much chance of winning, but because it will give us the extra motivation to go back their next year and earn payback on a lesser Bison squad (with a depleted MSU and NAU, and a tough OOC schedule to toughen us up UM could make a legit title run next year)

I think NAU has a better chance of making the semis

The Bison lose 24 seniors this year but will be very good next year as well. The defense rotates many players in and the offense will be good next year also.

The Bison will drop off some, you would expect that with this senior class graduating, but they will be in the 'hunt' next year too.

I don't doubt they will. But anyone would have drop off replacing the greatest class of seniors in the history of FCS.

[Grizalltheway]

The committee uses computer models in determining selections/seeds. You don't have to like it, but it's a fact, and one that you should stop whining about already.

Oh give me a fucking break. If the roles were reversed, and the following happened:

1.) UM beat NAU and finished one spot higher in the conference, with one less conference loss.

AND

2.) UM finished 8-0 in the Big Sky, but somehow drew a much more difficult matchup as the NUMBER 3 SEED (regardless of who wins in the first round) than a conference mate who drew the NUMBER 8 SEED.

Egriz would be going full retard. And you know it. So just stop the charade, and admit the playoff committee is a joke and that the Griz got over big time.

But Sagarin and the RPI says it's right, so it must be gospel.

You guys are apparently unbeatable, so why do you give a fuck how tough your oppenents are?

And saying that we have an easy path being the 8th seed when that entails traveling to Fargo is almost too stupid to even address.

[EWURanger]

Oh give me a **** break. If the roles were reversed, and the following happened:

1.) UM beat NAU and finished one spot higher in the conference, with one less conference loss.

AND

2.) UM finished 8-0 in the Big Sky, but somehow drew a much more difficult matchup as the NUMBER 3 SEED (regardless of who wins in the first round) than a conference mate who drew the NUMBER 8 SEED.

Egriz would be going full retard. And you know it. So just stop the charade, and admit the playoff committee is a joke and that the Griz got over big time.

But Sagarin and the RPI says it's right, so it must be gospel.

This exact situation has happened to the Griz more times than EWU has made the playoffs.

Before 2010, CAA and Southern teams ALWAYS got to play the terrible eastern non power conference teams, while Montana had to play good MVC or Southland teams.

Certain teams are always going to get lucky draws. If you can't beat any team in the field, you won't get far. Just worry about who you have to face.

Also, cry more.

Seriously you guys are such whiners.

I'm not crying about having to play the MVFC - we are 2-0 against that conference in recent years in the playoffs.

It is very doubtful that Montana has been in this situation "more times than EWU has made the playoffs". But please exaggerate your claims some more. I guess I should not be surprised that you all are defending this piece of work. Just gives more credence to what many of us have known for a long time: Many Montana either don't know shit, or are so heavily biased they can't see past their own faces.

[BlackFalkin]

I'd rather have the NDSU game. Not because we have much chance of winning, but because it will give us the extra motivation to go back their next year and earn payback on a lesser Bison squad (with a depleted MSU and NAU, and a tough OOC schedule to toughen us up UM could make a legit title run next year)

I think NAU has a better chance of making the semis

The Bison lose 24 seniors this year but will be very good next year as well. The defense rotates many players in and the offense will be good next year also.

The Bison will drop off some, you would expect that with this senior class graduating, but they will be in the 'hunt' next year too.

Nobody is buying that crap.. Dj Mcnorton is a senior right? Brock jenson is a senior right.. This is it.

[Grizalltheway]

This exact situation has happened to the Griz more times than EWU has made the playoffs.

Before 2010, CAA and Southern teams ALWAYS got to play the terrible eastern non power conference teams, while Montana had to play good MVC or Southland teams.

Certain teams are always going to get lucky draws. If you can't beat any team in the field, you won't get far. Just worry about who you have to face.

Also, cry more.

Seriously you guys are such whiners.

I'm not crying about having to play the MVFC - we are 2-0 against that conference in recent years in the playoffs.

It is very doubtful that Montana has been in this situation "more times than EWU has made the playoffs". But please exaggerate your claims some more. I guess I should not be surprised that you all are defending this piece of work. Just gives more credence to what many of us have known for a long time: Many Montana either don't know shit, or are so heavily biased they can't see past their own faces.

Says the guy who thinks the Griz have it easy traveling to Fargo. I mean seriously, a statement like that is signature worthy.

[kalm]

This exact situation has happened to the Griz more times than EWU has made the playoffs.

Before 2010, CAA and Southern teams ALWAYS got to play the terrible eastern non power conference teams, while Montana had to play good MVC or Southland teams.

Certain teams are always going to get lucky draws. If you can't beat any team in the field, you won't get far. Just worry about who you have to face.

Also, cry more.

Seriously you guys are such whiners.

I'm not crying about having to play the MVFC - we are 2-0 against that conference in recent years in the playoffs.

It is very doubtful that Montana has been in this situation "more times than EWU has made the playoffs". But please exaggerate your claims some more. I guess I should not be surprised that you all are defending this piece of work. Just gives more credence to what many of us have known for a long time: Many Montana either don't know shit, or are so heavily biased they can't see past their own feces.

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