KC Keeler the new HC at Sam Houston State

[bluehenbillk]

Bearkat, before a HC was named what was the outlook for SHSU in 2014?

Have you guys released your 2014 schedule yet? Haven't seen it other that trips to Cheney, WA & Death Valley/Baton Rouge, LA.

[bearkat91]

Bearkat, before a HC was named what was the outlook for SHSU in 2014?

Have you guys released your 2014 schedule yet? Haven't seen it other that trips to Cheney, WA & Death Valley/Baton Rouge, LA.

I wasn't really sure what to expect. We lost our 3 offensive studs (Flanders, Bell and Sincere). The starting running back this year should be really good. Of course, we'll probably never see another Flanders in my lifetime. We showed some promise, at times, at receiver. The QB is the big question mark for the O this year. We have some kids who are big and fast, but when they played for an injured Bell last year, they looked completely lost. The o-line should be better as last year we were very young. On defense, we will have new LB's, DE's and one tackle. I can't remember how many of the secondary we replace. Couple all the defensive starters we're losing with a really shitty d-coordinator, and my best guess would be we'll have to rely on the offense to win next year. That's why I was curious as to what kind of defense KC likes to run. I'm still convinced that if we had the same DC we had when we made the finals the last two years, we possibly could have tied for the conference title, or won it outright, and had a lot better showing in the playoffs.

As for the schedule, our AD is notorious for not having it set and released until late. So, EWU and LSU are the only two games I'm aware of.

[JohnStOnge]

Well, I'd say he's in as good a spot as he can be in terms of having a lot of talent around to recruit. Historically Sam Houston State has not been able to parlay that into a consistent top level program. But there's a whole lot more talent available in the immediate proximity of Sam Houston State than there is around any other playoff conference team in FCS.

We'll see how he does. We'll see if a Yankee can bring the south Texas bodies in.

[EWURanger]

As if I needed another reason to dislike Sam Houston.

[Screamin_Eagle174]

As if I needed another reason to dislike Sam Houston.

Love the fact that one of KC's first games back will be in Cheney. I hope he and Beau can catch up.

[AZGrizFan]

I know you're a huge KC fanboi and apologist, but you're dilusional if you think what was put on the field the last eight seasons was exciting in any way. It was the most predictable offense I've ever witnessed in my life. The exciting part was that KC was adept at finding great transfers who could simply out-talent the opposition. When he whiffed on the transfers, then you got the 3 out of every 4 years at the end when we sucked hard. The Flacco and Devlin second seasons were obviously more fun than the Schoenhoft fiasco and the Riccio choke in Williamsburg.

I have a question for you UD guys. In looking at KC's head coaching record, it seems he had trouble with consistency at UD. At Rowan, he was very consistent. Why do y'all think he had such up and down seasons at UD?

That was just because it was so hard to compete in the CAA every year.....just so difficult. Really hard, you know?

[bearkat91]

I have a question for you UD guys. In looking at KC's head coaching record, it seems he had trouble with consistency at UD. At Rowan, he was very consistent. Why do y'all think he had such up and down seasons at UD?

That was just because it was so hard to compete in the CAA every year.....just so difficult. Really hard, you know?

I was afraid it was because he relied so heavily on QB transfers. I realize the CAA is a bitch of a conference and it's almost impossible to get through it unscathed every year.

[GannonFan]

That was just because it was so hard to compete in the CAA every year.....just so difficult. Really hard, you know?

I was afraid it was because he relied so heavily on QB transfers. I realize the CAA is a bitch of a conference and it's almost impossible to get through it unscathed every year.

Outside of the year they had Schoenwhatever from Ohio St (2008) KC never had a problem having the QB position well stocked. People liked to yap about the reliance on transfers and tried, in vain, to say that was the reason why he was a bit inconsistent at UD, but in KC's tenure at UD the Hens clearly had the best run of QB play compared not only to any program in the CAA, but likely the nation as well. It was a lightning rod for some, but KC got an A+ for keeping the QB position well stocked.

The issue came, however, in that he didn't fill out the rest of the team nearly as well as the QB position. He did well almost all the time with transfers, but his high school recruiting, for almost every position, wasn't as good as it should've been and I think that led to the inconsistencies that led to his dismissal. And frankly, I think he lost his fire the last few years as well. Maybe he has the fire back, and he's certainly going to be able to bring in transfers to be successful at SHSU. Heck, if I was a betting man I would say SHSU has a better chance to win a national title before the Hens will, especially if someone can help KC evaluate and coach up the high school talent better than he has before. But he will find very good QBs and they will win lots of games for him - you can almost bet on that.

[Grizalltheway]

I was afraid it was because he relied so heavily on QB transfers. I realize the CAA is a bitch of a conference and it's almost impossible to get through it unscathed every year.

Outside of the year they had Schoenwhatever from Ohio St (2008) KC never had a problem having the QB position well stocked. People liked to yap about the reliance on transfers and tried, in vain, to say that was the reason why he was a bit inconsistent at UD, but in KC's tenure at UD the Hens clearly had the best run of QB play compared not only to any program in the CAA, but likely the nation as well. It was a lightning rod for some, but KC got an A+ for keeping the QB position well stocked.

The issue came, however, in that he didn't fill out the rest of the team nearly as well as the QB position. He did well almost all the time with transfers, but his high school recruiting, for almost every position, wasn't as good as it should've been and I think that led to the inconsistencies that led to his dismissal. And frankly, I think he lost his fire the last few years as well. Maybe he has the fire back, and he's certainly going to be able to bring in transfers to be successful at SHSU. Heck, if I was a betting man I would say SHSU has a better chance to win a national title before the Hens will, especially if someone can help KC evaluate and coach up the high school talent better than he has before. But he will find very good QBs and they will win lots of games for him - you can almost bet on that.

EWU would like a word with you.

[GannonFan]

Outside of the year they had Schoenwhatever from Ohio St (2008) KC never had a problem having the QB position well stocked. People liked to yap about the reliance on transfers and tried, in vain, to say that was the reason why he was a bit inconsistent at UD, but in KC's tenure at UD the Hens clearly had the best run of QB play compared not only to any program in the CAA, but likely the nation as well. It was a lightning rod for some, but KC got an A+ for keeping the QB position well stocked.

The issue came, however, in that he didn't fill out the rest of the team nearly as well as the QB position. He did well almost all the time with transfers, but his high school recruiting, for almost every position, wasn't as good as it should've been and I think that led to the inconsistencies that led to his dismissal. And frankly, I think he lost his fire the last few years as well. Maybe he has the fire back, and he's certainly going to be able to bring in transfers to be successful at SHSU. Heck, if I was a betting man I would say SHSU has a better chance to win a national title before the Hens will, especially if someone can help KC evaluate and coach up the high school talent better than he has before. But he will find very good QBs and they will win lots of games for him - you can almost bet on that.

EWU would like a word with you.

Hall, Riccio, Flacco, Devlin covers 8 years - a ton of good stats there. UD didn't lose games because the QB's weren't any good (except for 2008 when the QB's were brutal).

[Grizalltheway]

EWU would like a word with you.

Hall, Riccio, Flacco, Devlin covers 8 years - a ton of good stats there. UD didn't lose games because the QB's weren't any good (except for 2008 when the QB's were brutal).

I'm not saying they weren't good-they were-but Eastern had (and still has) a string of QBs starting with Meyer in '04 that is pretty much unmatched in that stretch. And this is coming from an EWU h8er.

[93henfan]

Hall, Riccio, Flacco, Devlin covers 8 years - a ton of good stats there. UD didn't lose games because the QB's weren't any good (except for 2008 when the QB's were brutal).

I'm not saying they weren't good-they were-but Eastern had (and still has) a string of QBs starting with Meyer in '04 that is pretty much unmatched in that stretch. And this is coming from an EWU h8er.

Bro. They don't compare to what Delaware had. Not even close. Hall (Eagles, FCS NC ring), Flacco (Ravens, NC game, Superbowl ring, Superbowl MVP), Devlin (Dolphins, NC game). Just saying.

[93henfan]

Nice article about Keeler in the Delaware paper. SHSU sounds like they have a very excited guy coming to coach:

http://www.delawareonline.com/article/2 ... K-C-Keeler

[Grizalltheway]

I'm not saying they weren't good-they were-but Eastern had (and still has) a string of QBs starting with Meyer in '04 that is pretty much unmatched in that stretch. And this is coming from an EWU h8er.

Bro. They don't compare to what Delaware had. Not even close. Hall (Eagles, FCS NC ring), Flacco (Ravens, NC game, Superbowl ring, Superbowl MVP), Devlin (Dolphins, NC game). Just saying.

How many Payton awards...bro?

[kalm]

I'm not saying they weren't good-they were-but Eastern had (and still has) a string of QBs starting with Meyer in '04 that is pretty much unmatched in that stretch. And this is coming from an EWU h8er.

Bro. They don't compare to what Delaware had. Not even close. Hall (Eagles, FCS NC ring), Flacco (Ravens, NC game, Superbowl ring, Superbowl MVP), Devlin (Dolphins, NC game). Just saying.

2 Payton's, 3 semi's, 1 chipper, playoffs in 8-10 seasons, and some of the best numbers in the history of FCS. Don't compare...not even close...

[93henfan]

Bro. They don't compare to what Delaware had. Not even close. Hall (Eagles, FCS NC ring), Flacco (Ravens, NC game, Superbowl ring, Superbowl MVP), Devlin (Dolphins, NC game). Just saying.

2 Payton's, 3 semi's, 1 chipper, playoffs in 8-10 seasons, and some of the best numbers in the history of FCS. Don't compare...not even close...

You can argue all you want, but Delaware clearly had the superior QBs. 10-2 in the FCS playoffs with a championship. Hall with the most dominant playoff run ever. Three on NFL rosters. Superbowl ring. Superbowl MVP. I mean, c'mon. Flacco alone is better than all the EWU guys combined.

Just keeping it real folks.

You can always tell when Kalm is losing an argument by his use of ever increasing laughing emoticons. He gets loopy when he's beaten.

[93henfan]

How many Payton awards...bro?

Hall and Flacco both should have won Paytons. Hall beat the living piss out of the 2003 Payton winner on the field in Chattanooga. That shows you how much that award means. It's a reward for running up stats. There's a severe bias against transfer QBs. BLM was a rare exception to that.

[Caribbean Hen]

a little spoof of some of the event that happened at Delaware leading up to KCK being fired


Harold R - seated with a hot cup of Circle K Joe - I cant wait to see the look on Keeler's face when he see's me in here…..


Harker - I am glad you called, I really had no idea about any of these things,

ring ring - yes Scarlet, send him in

Harker
Kurt, a number of issues have come to bear in recent weeks and I called you in here today so you can tell us why you should remain on as the head football coach, I had assumed all was well with football but I received a letter from a fan, who's rich by the way, and this letter has opened my eyes to several disturbing allegations, I am told attendance is down, they tell me your offense is not only boring but every team in the league knows exactly what your going to run and you had knowledge of this disturbing fact as early as last year, but yet you inexplicably ran the same plays this year. This fact was disturbingly evident when my wife turned to me on Saturday and said - " watch this play, it will be a pass and our receiver will catch the ball 5 yards short of the sticks" and she was right, she tells me this happens often. Take a look at the video Kurt, that is you back in 2002 at your press conference when you were hired. What I see in your eyes that day is energy, swagger, confidence, Honestly, you don't remotely resemble that guy today.
remember when you said your offense will attack the opponent as soon as were of the Bus? Well now our offense is being attacked and you let it happen, nobody else. Now Kurt, you've represented this U of D very well and have run a clean program, and that's all I've asked of you, as I am trying to run an institution of higher learning here and really don't care about wins and losses, but the alumni are so disgusted right now and even the VP Biden has called, I just cannot ignore the situation any longer.

So tell us, Why should I not terminate your contract today?

K.C. - head shaking back and forth slowly but speechless -

Harker - Well?

Harold R - Kurt, don't worry about me, but please allow me to speak on your behalf. I am not here to take the job back, at my age I just don't have the energy to rebuild it, but I think you should seriously consider breaking it down and building it back, and if you don't like that idea, you should announce your resignation immediately. We flew a few honorable guests here today, and they will be in charge of football team from this point on, hey Pops, come on in..

Mike Adams enters the room and shakes hands with Tubby and than walks over to a seated and sullen K.C. and snatches him out of the chair by the collar, a minor scuffle ensues and Adams and Keeler go over the desk knocking the president out of his chair, Pops quickly horse collars K.C and pins him up against the wall causing his dangling feet to twitch about 6" off the floor

Harold R calmly takes a sip of his Circle K coffee

Adams - Do I have your attention now coach, you listen to me now, You've got to wake the freak up, your wimpy arse is a freaking joke to all of us that won you your stinking championship, remember it's all about us, the players…. not you, unless you lose and than it's the kids didn't execute, I don't want your job today, but if you don't change your smug attitude and take a serious look at how your slowly destroying the legacy that was built long before you got here, I am coming back and next time I am moving into your office, you got any questions? I didn't think so, but before I put you down I want you to say "What has happened to the football program is my fault" Say it girl

Kurt - " I ain't saying it, no, i wont say it"

Pops - "You aint coming down until you say it, Are you to proud? you know they were gonna fire you right now, He offered me the job, if you say it, I'll get back on the plane and the job will remain yours, and the next time you see me I am gonna be moving into your office……. NOW SAY IT"

[93henfan]

KC Keeler introduction at SHSU:

http://www.kbtx.com/sports/headlines/K- ... 81421.html

[kalm]

2 Payton's, 3 semi's, 1 chipper, playoffs in 8-10 seasons, and some of the best numbers in the history of FCS. Don't compare...not even close...

You can argue all you want, but Delaware clearly had the superior QBs. 10-2 in the FCS playoffs with a championship. Hall with the most dominant playoff run ever. Three on NFL rosters. Superbowl ring. Superbowl MVP. I mean, c'mon. Flacco alone is better than all the EWU guys combined.

Just keeping it real folks.

You can always tell when Kalm is losing an argument by his use of ever increasing laughing emoticons. He gets loopy when he's beaten.

but in KC's tenure at UD the Hens clearly had the best run of QB play compared not only to any program in the CAA, but likely the nation as well

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Don't Compare...not even close

Let's see...any mention of best QB run combined with NFL success?

Nope.

Hate to break it to ya slappy but both QB runs are comparable and close.

Btw...forgot to mention the 2 Payton runner ups in addition to the winners...

Spoiler: show

[BDKJMU]

Congrats to Keeler. Apparently he beat out among others Mickey Matthews for the job.

[Screamin_Eagle174]

2 Payton's, 3 semi's, 1 chipper, playoffs in 8-10 seasons, and some of the best numbers in the history of FCS. Don't compare...not even close...

You can argue all you want, but Delaware clearly had the superior QBs. 10-2 in the FCS playoffs with a championship. Hall with the most dominant playoff run ever. Three on NFL rosters. Superbowl ring. Superbowl MVP. I mean, c'mon. Flacco alone is better than all the EWU guys combined.

Just keeping it real folks.

You can always tell when Kalm is losing an argument by his use of ever increasing laughing emoticons. He gets loopy when he's beaten.

[93henfan]

Wake me up when EWU gets three QBs on NFL rosters in a decade. Or even wake me up when just one wins a Superbowl.

I thought so.

[93henfan]

Congrats to Keeler. Apparently he beat out among others Mickey Matthews for the job.

I don't know how old Mickey is but he looks older than Keeler. SHSU passed over some other guy that was the favorite because, IIRC, he was pushing 70. Maybe Mickey lost the how-soon-will-he-retire tiebreaker to KC as well.

I'm happy for KC and wager that he will win a national championship for SHSU like he did for UD.

[kalm]

Wake me up when EWU gets three QBs on NFL rosters in a decade. Or even wake me up when just one wins a Superbowl.

I thought so.

Congratulations on their NFL success too!