Not at all. But comparing a loss to Poly to losing to USD AND UNC is just comical.kalm wrote:So......yore going to quality loss your way into the playoffs?Grizalltheway wrote: Don't let logic get in the way of dback's butthurt.
not even close.ASUG8 wrote:Moving to 24 is practically headed toward the joke that is the participation trophy mentality that is today's FBS
The more, the merrier, as far as I'm concerned. If you could feasibly figure a way to do 64, I'd be all for it. 24 is okay for now, but hopefully we'll get to 32 soon, which is ideal.89Hen wrote:So you'd be OK with 32. How about 64?kalm wrote:I love the 24 field team. It gives more programs an incentive to improve their recruiting, facilities, etc and provides some interesting match ups.
Very good post. The more programs in the hunt for the playoffs, the more interesting the entire season becomes. I've never understood the opposition to an expanded field.JayJ79 wrote:not even close.ASUG8 wrote:Moving to 24 is practically headed toward the joke that is the participation trophy mentality that is today's FBS
There are currently 121 FCS football programs (not counting those still reclassifying), which makes the number of postseason participants (24) equal to about 20% of the total.
There are 125 FBS football programs (again, not counting those reclassifying), and there are a full 76 bowl spots, which makes a whopping 61% of the total.
For reference:
D2 football: 167 teams, 24 playoff spots - 14%
D3 football: 242 teams, 32 playoff spots - 13%
D1 MBB: 349 teams, 68 NCAA tournament spots - 19%
and if you want to figure in the NIT, CIT, and CBI, that is 148 spots, so 42% of the teams make postseason play
Tell me you're joking. People LAUGH at all the bowls and you want to use them as a design for our championship? No way Jose. And don't even start in with bball... apples and oranges.JayJ79 wrote:not even close.ASUG8 wrote:Moving to 24 is practically headed toward the joke that is the participation trophy mentality that is today's FBS
There are currently 121 FCS football programs (not counting those still reclassifying), which makes the number of postseason participants (24) equal to about 20% of the total.
There are 125 FBS football programs (again, not counting those reclassifying), and there are a full 76 bowl spots, which makes a whopping 61% of the total.
For reference:
D2 football: 167 teams, 24 playoff spots - 14%
D3 football: 242 teams, 32 playoff spots - 13%
D1 MBB: 349 teams, 68 NCAA tournament spots - 19%
and if you want to figure in the NIT, CIT, and CBI, that is 148 spots, so 42% of the teams make postseason play
I'd like to hear why you think 32 is ideal. So a 6-5 team can play?slulionsfan wrote:The more, the merrier, as far as I'm concerned. If you could feasibly figure a way to do 64, I'd be all for it. 24 is okay for now, but hopefully we'll get to 32 soon, which is ideal.
I say, why even have a regular season. Just start the playoffs with all the teams, single elimination.89Hen wrote:I'd like to hear why you think 32 is ideal. So a 6-5 team can play?slulionsfan wrote:The more, the merrier, as far as I'm concerned. If you could feasibly figure a way to do 64, I'd be all for it. 24 is okay for now, but hopefully we'll get to 32 soon, which is ideal.
No its not. JMU has one sort of bad loss back in Sept to a 5-4 UD in OT at home when UD was coming off a bye JMU is a MUCH better team now than in Sept and has been moving in opposite directions as UD since Sept. Heck, JMU beat Towson 62-7, who beat UD by a TD. Just beat a top 20 W&M team who beat UD by 2 TDs. JMU might still have to beat a top 10 UR. There's other teams with a worse loss than JMU's very much in the hunt. JMU being considered doesn't mean will get in, and isn't an indictment on anything.93henfan wrote:On a more serious note, the combination of a vastly diminished FCS and an increase to a ridiculous 24 playoff slots ensures that some very poor teams will get in the field.
I mean, when you have people seriously considering 2014 JMU and Albany for playoff spots, well, that's a very sad indictment on FCS football.
FWIW, only one of those would be an upset.BDKJMU wrote:Albany at 6-3/2-3 dnp a I-A and will have to go 9-3 to get in. That means they have to run the table with their last 3 games UD, @ VU, SBU. Not going to happen.
Right now? Probably, as I think 5dimes would have UA a a sleight favorite over UD and SBU at home, and a big dog @ VU. However I think the last week of the wouldn't be surprised to see SBU favored over UA, and I wouldn't be surprised to see UA lose all 3. I expect 1-2. I would be absolutely stunned is Albany won out.89Hen wrote:FWIW, only one of those would be an upset.BDKJMU wrote:Albany at 6-3/2-3 dnp a I-A and will have to go 9-3 to get in. That means they have to run the table with their last 3 games UD, @ VU, SBU. Not going to happen.
I would be too, but I expect 2-1.BDKJMU wrote:I expect 1-2. I would be absolutely stunned is Albany won out.
Good, someone gets it. I'd be embarrassed to be on a team with a losing record playing in some obscure bowl. Using D2 and D3 percentages as being a correct baseline to start from in the first place is a false premise - what's magical about 13-14% being the "ideal" percentage of teams? FBS playoffs at 16-20 teams is a model that the rest of football should strive toward. There will always be teams with good records that didn't win their conference that don't receive bids due to SOS and the like, but that's how it works.89Hen wrote:Tell me you're joking. People LAUGH at all the bowls and you want to use them as a design for our championship? No way Jose. And don't even start in with bball... apples and oranges.JayJ79 wrote: not even close.
There are currently 121 FCS football programs (not counting those still reclassifying), which makes the number of postseason participants (24) equal to about 20% of the total.
There are 125 FBS football programs (again, not counting those reclassifying), and there are a full 76 bowl spots, which makes a whopping 61% of the total.
For reference:
D2 football: 167 teams, 24 playoff spots - 14%
D3 football: 242 teams, 32 playoff spots - 13%
D1 MBB: 349 teams, 68 NCAA tournament spots - 19%
and if you want to figure in the NIT, CIT, and CBI, that is 148 spots, so 42% of the teams make postseason play
Grizalltheway wrote:Losing to SoDak and UNC...dbackjon wrote:
Oh I know - still a lot of football to be played. As an NAU fan, I still expect 6-6
Just looking at schedules and how some teams have managed to stay ranked/be ranked on a poor resume. Losing by 20 to a team NAU beat...
Yawn. Big talk from a team that hasn't won a playoff game in a decade and counting.jackrabbit wrote:Grizalltheway wrote:
Losing to SoDak and UNC...
Keep laughing asswipe...lets see who has the last laugh after MSU and EWU piss all over the Griz
Grizalltheway wrote:Yawn. Big talk from a team that hasn't won a playoff game in a decade and counting.jackrabbit wrote:
Keep laughing asswipe...lets see who has the last laugh after MSU and EWU piss all over the Griz
Please explain why this NAU fan has South Dakota for his location but is posting from Phoenix, AZ...Robsnotes4u wrote:Grizalltheway wrote: Yawn. Big talk from a team that hasn't won a playoff game in a decade and counting.
Please explain to everyone the relevance of the last decade to this year, or are you just acting like a 12 year old.
Very simple. They occur in the same season.Grizalltheway wrote:Can you tell me how UM hypothetically losing to EWU and MSU is relevant to NAU ACTUALLY losing to USD and UNC?
Very simple. Two things have DEFINITITELY occurred, while the other two are just projections.Robsnotes4u wrote:Very simple. They occur in the same season.Grizalltheway wrote:Can you tell me how UM hypothetically losing to EWU and MSU is relevant to NAU ACTUALLY losing to USD and UNC?
Because asswipe I am in Phoenix on assignment but maintain a residence in SD. Born and bred in SD and proud of it.clenz wrote:Please explain why this NAU fan has South Dakota for his location but is posting from Phoenix, AZ...Robsnotes4u wrote:
Please explain to everyone the relevance of the last decade to this year, or are you just acting like a 12 year old.
AZGrizFan wrote:Very simple. Two things have DEFINITITELY occurred, while the other two are just projections.Robsnotes4u wrote:
Very simple. They occur in the same season.
