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SHSU would not have beaten Nova with their starting Qb in the lineup. They will be rolled over quite easily by NDSU. It will be ugly.
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I think the physicality was fine. The problem Villanova had is that Sam Houston State found a weakness in #6 in the secondary and went after him repeatedly to make key plays. And Sam Houston State did some key things like block that punt early. That allowed them to score enough points to outscore Villanova's severely handicapped offense.

I still can't believe you guys are seriously acting as though having that quarterback out was not a huge factor. I think anybody in the world who is not a Sam Houston State fan who looks at Sam Houston State getting a 3 point win with that guy out for Villanova would think Villanova would've won easily if that guy had played.

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Nova with JR is a world beater (uhhhhhhhhh...RICHMOND...10 points), but nova without JR cant' hang with an unseeded team?

Hey, let's play more, "what ifs..."

If Johnson was actually healthy, instead of playing with the flu, he could have run for a lot more yards. Instead, he only picked up 32, most of it on one run.

If it were not for Delaware's DC, nova would have taken a loss both years. Nova was very beatable. :nod:

If nova had a secondary they might still be playing. Of course, if nova had a kicker, they might still be playing. :lol:

BTW...Talley. :lol: The genius says his special teams were the worst in his history. Who's fault is that?
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Cluck U wrote:Nova with JR is a world beater (uhhhhhhhhh...RICHMOND...10 points), but nova without JR cant' hang with an unseeded team?

Hey, let's play more, "what ifs..."

If Johnson was actually healthy, instead of playing with the flu, he could have run for a lot more yards. Instead, he only picked up 32, most of it on one run.

If it were not for Delaware's DC, nova would have taken a loss both years. Nova was very beatable. :nod:

If nova had a secondary they might still be playing. Of course, if nova had a kicker, they might still be playing. :lol:

BTW...Talley. :lol: The genius says his special teams were the worst in his history. Who's fault is that?
you are asking way too many valid questions. its only about IF JR played. Move along if you have any questions abt special team, NOVA Def, SHSU QB having the FLU and 102 fever. Also do not ask about giving the flu stricken QB his best gave ever. No way SHSU was tough enough to hang 34 on NOVA if JR was in the game.
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:roll:
Petition the NCAA for a Do-Over

Villanova had more total offense, more points and fewer turnovers against SHSU than against Liberty.

Please ingest some cheese with your whine.
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kalm wrote:
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Its not being a sore loser. Its called using your brain, :dunce: esp if you have watched Roberts play before. Would be like if Mariota didn't play against FSU, and FSU won by 3, saying that Oregon would have won if Mariota had played would be common sense. You could say the same thing vice versa with last year's Heisman winner in Winston if he didn't play vs Oregon and Oregon won by 3.

The Payton and Heisman winners are worth more than 3 points in a ballgame.
We lost Taiwan Jones before the semifinal game and were still able to beat Nova. :coffee:
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Cluck U wrote:Nova with JR is a world beater (uhhhhhhhhh...RICHMOND...10 points), but nova without JR cant' hang with an unseeded team?

Hey, let's play more, "what ifs..."

If Johnson was actually healthy, instead of playing with the flu, he could have run for a lot more yards. Instead, he only picked up 32, most of it on one run.

If it were not for Delaware's DC, nova would have taken a loss both years. Nova was very beatable. :nod:

If nova had a secondary they might still be playing. Of course, if nova had a kicker, they might still be playing. :lol:

BTW...Talley. :lol: The genius says his special teams were the worst in his history. Who's fault is that?

Let's just keep it real. IF Robertson had played, it wouldn't have been close. He is the Walter Payton award winner for a reason.
But he didn't, so let's all agree to root KC and the KATS on against NDSU. /discussion
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vutomcat wrote:
Cluck U wrote:Nova with JR is a world beater (uhhhhhhhhh...RICHMOND...10 points), but nova without JR cant' hang with an unseeded team?

Hey, let's play more, "what ifs..."

If Johnson was actually healthy, instead of playing with the flu, he could have run for a lot more yards. Instead, he only picked up 32, most of it on one run.

If it were not for Delaware's DC, nova would have taken a loss both years. Nova was very beatable. :nod:

If nova had a secondary they might still be playing. Of course, if nova had a kicker, they might still be playing. :lol:

BTW...Talley. :lol: The genius says his special teams were the worst in his history. Who's fault is that?

Let's just keep it real. IF Robertson had played, it wouldn't have been close. He is the Walter Payton award winner for a reason.
But he didn't, so let's all agree to root KC and the KATS on against NDSU. /discussion
I actually wouldn't mind NDSU winning, again. It helps Coastal Carolina. :mrgreen:
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Aho Old Guy wrote::roll:
Petition the NCAA for a Do-Over

Villanova had more total offense, more points and fewer turnovers against SHSU than against Liberty.

Please ingest some cheese with your whine.

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vutomcat wrote:
Cluck U wrote:Nova with JR is a world beater (uhhhhhhhhh...RICHMOND...10 points), but nova without JR cant' hang with an unseeded team?

Hey, let's play more, "what ifs..."

If Johnson was actually healthy, instead of playing with the flu, he could have run for a lot more yards. Instead, he only picked up 32, most of it on one run.

If it were not for Delaware's DC, nova would have taken a loss both years. Nova was very beatable. :nod:

If nova had a secondary they might still be playing. Of course, if nova had a kicker, they might still be playing. :lol:

BTW...Talley. :lol: The genius says his special teams were the worst in his history. Who's fault is that?

Let's just keep it real. IF Robertson had played, it wouldn't have been close. He is the Walter Payton award winner for a reason.
But he didn't, so let's all agree to root KC and the KATS on against NDSU. /discussion
Not even "close"? nova still gave up 450 yards of offense and had SHSU move right down the field for that last drive after nova had finally gotten the lead. nova's defense just wasn't good enough, and that has nothing to do with the QB. Maybe nova wins with him, maybe they don't, but with the D being that porous it would always be in question. There was a reason why nova wasn't really a national title contender, and that defense (not to mention the kicking game - yikes) was a big reason.
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GannonFan wrote:
vutomcat wrote:

Let's just keep it real. IF Robertson had played, it wouldn't have been close. He is the Walter Payton award winner for a reason.
But he didn't, so let's all agree to root KC and the KATS on against NDSU. /discussion
Not even "close"? nova still gave up 450 yards of offense and had SHSU move right down the field for that last drive after nova had finally gotten the lead. nova's defense just wasn't good enough, and that has nothing to do with the QB. Maybe nova wins with him, maybe they don't, but with the D being that porous it would always be in question. There was a reason why nova wasn't really a national title contender, and that defense (not to mention the kicking game - yikes) was a big reason.
Maybe "not even close" was an exaggeration. But, surely he is worth 10-20 points. SHSU's defense was not CAA caliber in my opinion.
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Not even "close"? nova still gave up 450 yards of offense and had SHSU move right down the field for that last drive after nova had finally gotten the lead. nova's defense just wasn't good enough, and that has nothing to do with the QB. Maybe nova wins with him, maybe they don't, but with the D being that porous it would always be in question. There was a reason why nova wasn't really a national title contender, and that defense (not to mention the kicking game - yikes) was a big reason.
Maybe "not even close" was an exaggeration. But, surely he is worth 10-20 points. SHSU's defense was not CAA caliber in my opinion.
Is he? 10-20 points? How many more yards do you think nova would've gotten that they didn't already get? SHSU's D was very porous, but let's be honest, nova's D didn't shine either. Obviously I think Robertson makes a difference, but it's not like nova's offense was struggling without him - they still had 550 yards or so. Maybe Robertson takes them down to score on that last drive and not rely on the kicker getting out there on time to kick the FG, maybe he doesn't. But nova could've won that game if their defense was "CAA caliber" as you say.
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GannonFan wrote:
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Maybe "not even close" was an exaggeration. But, surely he is worth 10-20 points. SHSU's defense was not CAA caliber in my opinion.
Is he? 10-20 points? How many more yards do you think nova would've gotten that they didn't already get? SHSU's D was very porous, but let's be honest, nova's D didn't shine either. Obviously I think Robertson makes a difference, but it's not like nova's offense was struggling without him - they still had 550 yards or so. Maybe Robertson takes them down to score on that last drive and not rely on the kicker getting out there on time to kick the FG, maybe he doesn't. But nova could've won that game if their defense was "CAA caliber" as you say.

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vutomcat wrote:
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Is he? 10-20 points? How many more yards do you think nova would've gotten that they didn't already get? SHSU's D was very porous, but let's be honest, nova's D didn't shine either. Obviously I think Robertson makes a difference, but it's not like nova's offense was struggling without him - they still had 550 yards or so. Maybe Robertson takes them down to score on that last drive and not rely on the kicker getting out there on time to kick the FG, maybe he doesn't. But nova could've won that game if their defense was "CAA caliber" as you say.

"NOVA ENVY" showing through. You just can't be objective when it comes to us. I'm done talking about it.
Is NOVA's DEF CAA caliber? just curious how that works.
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Nova's kicking game was D-3 caliber...
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C'mon - it all came down to coaching.

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Guys, come on, quit it already. Obviously if you aren't completely agreeing with vutomcat then you are not being objective. I know that because he said so. I'll let you know if he has anything else to comment on. :coffee:
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Rob Iola wrote:C'mon - it all came down to coaching.

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Rob Iola wrote:C'mon - it all came down to coaching.

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Robertson wins 2014 Walter Payton Award
By Craig Haley, FCS Executive Director/Senior Editor

Philadelphia, PA (SportsNetwork.com) - If there was an award Villanova quarterback John Robertson was associated with during the regular season, it was CAA offensive player of the week. He claimed the honor an incredible six times.

Monday night, Robertson's legacy grew into FCS history as he won the 28th Walter Payton Award, which honors the outstanding player in the division. The redshirt junior received the Heisman of the FCS at The Sports Network FCS Awards Banquet and Presentation.
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vutomcat wrote:Robertson wins 2014 Walter Payton Award
By Craig Haley, FCS Executive Director/Senior Editor

Philadelphia, PA (SportsNetwork.com) - If there was an award Villanova quarterback John Robertson was associated with during the regular season, it was CAA offensive player of the week. He claimed the honor an incredible six times.

Monday night, Robertson's legacy grew into FCS history as he won the 28th Walter Payton Award, which honors the outstanding player in the division. The redshirt junior received the Heisman of the FCS at The Sports Network FCS Awards Banquet and Presentation.
Congrats!

However, with the way he plays there is a good chance he will end up beaten up, ending with a concussion, next year as well.
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Congratulations to John Robertson! :thumb: :nod: :clap:
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I'm not going to say that Villanova would have won with John Robertson, because I have no idea, but I do know that Polony's biggest weakness in his game (accuracy) is Robertson's greatest strength.
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Fact wrote:I'm not going to say that Villanova would have won with John Robertson, because I have no idea, but I do know that Polony's biggest weakness in his game (accuracy) is Robertson's greatest strength.
I don't think anyone is saying that Polony is better than or equal to Robertson, that would be crazy, but like you said, no one really knows if Robertson playing would've made a difference in winning or losing. Certainly didn't help.
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Penalties were the reason why Nova lost. Stupid ass penalties. :ohno:
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