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Tribe4SF wrote:The answer to the original question of this thread is a flat, and emphatic no. Information published on recruits from the recruiting services is useless in trying to rate the classes of FCS schools. Here's an article from the Daily Press yesterday exploring the world of college football recruiting.

http://www.dailypress.com/sports/nsdcen ... 6201.story
Tribe's got it right - any ranking of FCS schools is completely and utterly bogus. :thumb:
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You can't just go by Rivals. Scout has to come into play also. We had eight 2 stars there. Rivals sucks at covering the Northwest.

Montana's class......

Oregon 6A Offensive Player of the Year
Washington Defensive Player of the Year
Washington 2A-3A Offensive Player of the Year
13 All-State players of 19 recruits
10 Scout or Rivals 2 stars
4 players that chose Montana over FBS offers and multiple offers, Kirschner had offers from Army, Air Force, and UNLV.

Every year it's the same frickin poop. Montana doesn't ever have a good recruiting class with Rivals and then we go 14-1 or 13-1. Hmmm..... makes you wonder doesn't it?
http://rivals100.rivals.com/commitlist. ... 2010#page1
Rivals only listed 2. If there are 10, who are the other 8? (Scout.com doesn't have a search function for I-AA teams). The reason I ask is that sounds very odd to have 8 listed by scout that aren't listed by Rivals. For example, JMU had seven 2 star recruits (6 rivals + 1 scouts.inc (ESPN) and two 3 star rivals. Didn't have a single 2 star from scout that wasn't listed by Rivals.
Didn't I tell you Rivals doesn't cover the Northwest!

http://recruiting.scout.com/a.z?s=73&p= ... 81&yr=2010

Plus - Danny Kistler
OT, 6-8, 335, Fr., HS, Seattle, Wash. (O'Dea HS)
He was a 2009 2 star that didn't attend school last season.
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On effort alone, I give Youngstown State an A+. To get a class of 19 kids together in 5 weeks, all while our new head coach put together a staff, is simply amazing! We got a few 3-Star kids, quite a few 2-Star kids, a number of kids with FBS offers, and a group of winners.

Watch out for 2011 folks. If this is what our head coach could put together in 5 weeks, imagine what he gets in a year!
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Yeah, JMU somehow got left off that list. Yet rivals shows them with 11 commitments (of the 19 JMU signed), 18 total stars, an avg of 1.64 stars per commit, higher than any of the I-AA teams ranked
http://rivals100.rivals.com/commitlist. ... 2010#page1
http://rivals100.rivals.com/teamrank.as ... e=0&Sort=0
but someone JMU isn't. Another example, UR and JMU both have 6 rivals 2 star commits. UR has one 3 star. JMU has 2. Yet UR is the #3 I-AA and JMU isn't listed among the 22 I-AA listed, including a bunch of schools that show only a few commits, only one 2 star commit. Yeah, right. :roll:
Like I said, I worked for Rivals...them and Scout don't give a damn outside of their top 100 recruits that they can pimp out on TV
What's interesting is I went back the last 5 years and every year they had 15-20+ I-AA ranked every year. But it was mostly the same schools. Maybe only about 40ish different schools appeared. But it was not the 40ish you would think. Every year half of them were perennial cellar dwellers, including a lot of PFC, NEC, and Patriot. Heck, Georgetown, one of the worst programs in all of I-AA, appeared every year. :lol: Yet some schools like JMU, Delaware, and W&M never appear. Maybe its a anti CAA conspiracy :lol: Maybe a school has to have their own Rivals page to appear. JMU has a 1/2 doz Rivals 2 star and two 3 star, and UD has five 2 star and a 3 star, yet Rivals doesn't include them and includes a bunch of teams at the bottom that they show only 2-3 commits and one two star :roll:
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clenz wrote: Like I said, I worked for Rivals...them and Scout don't give a damn outside of their top 100 recruits that they can pimp out on TV
What's interesting is I went back the last 5 years and every year they had 15-20+ I-AA ranked every year. But it was mostly the same schools. Maybe only about 40ish different schools appeared. But it was not the 40ish you would think. Every year half of them were perennial cellar dwellers, including a lot of PFC, NEC, and Patriot. Heck, Georgetown, one of the worst programs in all of I-AA, appeared every year. :lol: Yet some schools like JMU, Delaware, and W&M never appear. Maybe its a anti CAA conspiracy :lol: Maybe a school has to have their own Rivals page to appear. JMU has a 1/2 doz Rivals 2 star and two 3 star, and UD has five 2 star and a 3 star, yet Rivals doesn't include them and includes a bunch of teams at the bottom that they show only 2-3 commits and one two star :roll:
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:shock: WHHHAAAAAAT?! you think you can beat LU by that much when WVU only beat our basically freshman team by 13?! crazyyyyyy. id love to see that game :) with jcourtney williams, mike brown, and many other stellar players we have and are still getting, id love to play montana NEXT yr and see what happens. LU is becoming a force 8-) watch and see! no hate to montana. but you underestimate LU 8-)
Yeaahhh, most of the stars you listed were user ranks. I just gave one of SBU's recruits a 5 star listing...so you better watch out!!

This isn't a shot at Liberty's class, which looks great. It's a way of saying don't count your stars before they hatch. There have been some absolutely horrid FCS schools who get consistently high rated recruitment classes...more evidence to ignore all that.

I worry about J'Courtney Williams. He had some law trouble...a LOT of law trouble..a WHOLE lot of law trouble, but still would have been picked up by an FBS school if he had the kind of potential that made him a star when he was a freshman.

http://www.volnation.com/forum/tennesse ... liams.html

Some information from the Tennessee Vols forum. Apparently they picked up two others from his JuCo. Speculation is his stats have depreciated drastically or his grades put him below the FBS bar. Regardless, Liberty may have been his only offer this year, which honestly should bother you as much as it does me.
It came down to (and comes down to) he will play here, or nowhere, because he's not eligible. But LU is where he wanted to be. Were we the only team ABLE to offer him? Maybe. If grades are an issue, then we can work that out. LU is different from every other school at a DI level in terms of bringing in guys like this. The academic leadership of the school and the spiritual leaders on campus won't put up with an athlete doing a ton of horrible things just because he's an athlete. Usually it doesn't get that far, because the teams handle issues internally before they reach a school level. We're not perfect, and I hope no one from LU claims to be, but when we bring in a kid with a troubled past, it's not to hide his issues, it's to bring them to light. It's just how we are and what we believe. If he commits a crime on campus at LU, you can believe he will be out of football. And I think he knows that.

We have a good recruiting class, and J'Courtney is part of it. I look forward to seeing how it pans out.
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A couple of years ago GSU had a kid from Florida that was a 3 star recruit who commited to us and suddenly he dropped to 2 stars after his commitment. Signing day he signed with Boston college and suddenly became a 3 star again. And this week we had a player who was not ranked and pulled his commitment to GSU and commited to Auburn and suddenly he becomes a 2 star recruit.
That's how it works :nod:
For the record the kid who signed with Boston College was Razzy Smith and the kid GSU lost yesterday to Auburn was Ladarius Phillips.
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Who was the famous coach that replied, when asked what grade he would give his recruiting class, "Right now I'd give it a 'c,' because right now I have yet to 'c' any of them on the practice field for us. "
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blueballs wrote:Who was the famous coach that replied, when asked what grade he would give his recruiting class, "Right now I'd give it a 'c,' because right now I have yet to 'c' any of them on the practice field for us. "
Spot on....these dick measuring threads about "our recruiting class was better than your's" are a hoot...

UMass got a juco player from CA last year who was rated "a pro prospect" and won awards...

On the field, he was like a deer staring into headlights...the game moved a lot faster than he was use to and he didn't make decision fast enough... :nod:

He may be a lot better this year...may not...

But it is funny reading this stuff...passes the time nicely... :lol: 8-)
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Col Hogan wrote:
Spot on....these dick measuring threads about "our recruiting class was better than your's" are a hoot...
I think most of us would agree :nod: ...but, as you said...it does pass the time.
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Tribe4SF wrote:
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The Phoebus coach isn't too bright:
"..."There's maybe 5,000 or 6,000 high school seniors playing football in the country, and you're going to be able to rank these kids?" Phoebus coach Stan Sexton said...."

http://nces.ed.gov/programs/digest/d08/ ... 08_094.asp
Bottom of chart, 2006-2007: 15,043 3 to 4 years high schools + 4,048 5-6 year high schools= over 19,000 high schools, yet according to the rocket scientist Phoebus coach, there are only 5,000-6,000 football playing high school seniors in the entire country. Try maybe 200,000-300,000. Heck, with around 350 public and private high school football teams in VA alone, there are probably around 5k senior high schools football players in just VA. And probably only around 2% of them are getting Div I schollies.
:roll: You get the point. Feeling a little sour grapes that ODU has the Phoebus pipeline going?
I could care less if ODU has picked up a couple of Phoebus players each of the last 3 recruting classes. Yeah, JMU only got one "757" player, Dejor Simmons, but he happened to be the top ranked one to go I-AA (according to Rivals, Virginia Pilot, etc) from the "757", and as per Rivals, the highest ranked at his projected college position, 16th ranked All Purpose Back in the country.

For 2 years now I've heard JMU posters on the CAAZone fret over not getting more "757" players and I just :roll: There's a half doz other area codes in VA. If beween the "757" where you have 4 I-AA (W&M, ODU, Hampton, and Norfolk State, and 804 (UR) JMU only gets 2-4 players, not a big deal if from the other 5 area codes they can get the majority of the top talent that doesn't go I-A, 6-8 players, plus snag talent from the surrounding states. Well, that appears to be what JMU is doing. This past season's roster had 8 players from NC, 7 from MD, 6 from NJ, and 4 from PA and 1 each from Fla, Mich, and CA.

This new incoming class of 19 signees had from 10 from VA the 3 star Simmons from the 757 and 2 from the 804 (one a 2 star), 3 from MD, 2 from both PA and TX, and 1 each from NJ and NY. Heck, the 9 from outside VA is probably a record for JMU.

Bottom line is I ain't worried about ODU and the "757". :nod:
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ronbo wrote:
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http://rivals100.rivals.com/commitlist. ... 2010#page1
Rivals only listed 2. If there are 10, who are the other 8? (Scout.com doesn't have a search function for I-AA teams). The reason I ask is that sounds very odd to have 8 listed by scout that aren't listed by Rivals. For example, JMU had seven 2 star recruits (6 rivals + 1 scouts.inc (ESPN) and two 3 star rivals. Didn't have a single 2 star from scout that wasn't listed by Rivals.
Didn't I tell you Rivals doesn't cover the Northwest!

http://recruiting.scout.com/a.z?s=73&p= ... 81&yr=2010

Plus - Danny Kistler
OT, 6-8, 335, Fr., HS, Seattle, Wash. (O'Dea HS)
He was a 2009 2 star that didn't attend school last season.
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Ok. To be technical, that would be 9, not 10 two stars for Montana:
-2 from Rivals
-6 of the other 7 from Scout (Bienemann on both Rivals and Scout)
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Rivals does cover the Northwest, but there isn't that much high school talent there.

Look at Oregon and Washingtong's recruiting classes... almost totally out of state.

Georgia, Florida, North Carolina, South Carolina players of the year are signing with big time FBS teams. Not so much with Oregon and Washington.
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JMU's Rival's commit list has been updated for all 19 signees. And now JMU is showing 14 two star and 2 three star:
http://rivals100.rivals.com/commitlist. ... 2010#page1

I've looked, and this is what I've found so far as far as two and 3 star signees:
JMU 34 stars
UR: 23 stars (Rivals 10 two star, one 3 star) (+ yeah, they did get Corp)
ASU: 20 stars (Rivals 4 three star, 4 two star)
Montana: 18 stars (Scout.com seven 2 star, + one additional from Rivals plus one from 09' Scout that sat out last yr according to Ronbo).
SE LA: 17 (Rivals 3 three star and 4 two star)
No one else totaling more than 13 stars (2 and 3 star).

To put this in perspective for JMU, # of stars Rivals showed for the last 6 JMU classes:
05': 12
06': 10
07': 0
08': 9
09': 14
2010': 34

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Montana adds a Pac 10 Defensive Tackle on Thursday.

Tonio Celotto
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2008 — Health was the biggest deterrent from him playing a bigger role along the defensive interior front, yet he still statistically ranked as the top reserve tackle ... Credited with a season-high three stops vs. Stanford, including his lone tackle-for-loss of the year ... Participated in 12 games, including 34 snaps at USC and 27 against Oregon State ... Benefitted from the experience gained as a true freshman, yet momentum was unable to carry through to spring drills while being hampered by nagging injuries.

2007 — The true freshman made his way into 12 games, posting seven tackles - two for loss - in his first three games before minor ailments began to take their toll ... Recorded four stops at Michigan as well as three unassisted tackles at UCLA ... Took part in 33 snaps in Ann Arbor and 28 against the Bruins ... Averaged more than 23 plays per game over the final three games of the season.


HIGH SCHOOL — Earning three-star acclaim by both Rivals.com and Scout.com, was ranked among the top 12 defensive linemen in California by SuperPrep ... Credited with 87 tackles, including 18 quarterback sacks, in 2006, after posting 75 tackles and 14 QB takedowns as a junior ... Awarded high marks for his athleticism and utilized speed coming off the edge for the Highlanders, who finished his senior season as Bay Shore League runners-up ... Benefited from athletic background that includes father, Mario, as a four-year NFL veteran, as well as mother, Julia, who was a collegiate track and volleyball standout.
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BDKJMU wrote:JMU's Rival's commit list has been updated for all 19 signees. And now JMU is showing 14 two star and 2 three star:
http://rivals100.rivals.com/commitlist. ... 2010#page1

I've looked, and this is what I've found so far as far as two and 3 star signees:
JMU 34 stars
UR: 23 stars (Rivals 10 two star, one 3 star) (+ yeah, they did get Corp)
ASU: 20 stars (Rivals 4 three star, 4 two star)
Montana: 18 stars (Scout.com seven 2 star, + one additional from Rivals plus one from 09' Scout that sat out last yr according to Ronbo).

No one else totaling more than 13 stars (2 and 3 star).

To put this in perspective for JMU, # of stars Rivals showed for the last 6 JMU classes:
05': 12
06': 10
07': 0
08': 9
09': 14
2010': 34

62 million stadium expansion paying off. Build it and they will come. :nod:
The Scout 7 stars is funny, they downgraded someone, there was eight a couple days ago.

Not listed as recruited for Montana at Scout or Rivals.

CJ Atkins WR, 6'3" 210 lbs, Scout 2 star out of HS. Washington State and JC transfer.
Tonio Celotto DT, 6'2" 305 lbs, Scout and Rivals 3 star out of HS. Oregon transfer.
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BDKJMU wrote:JMU's Rival's commit list has been updated for all 19 signees. And now JMU is showing 14 two star and 2 three star:
http://rivals100.rivals.com/commitlist. ... 2010#page1

I've looked, and this is what I've found so far as far as two and 3 star signees:
JMU 34 stars
UR: 23 stars (Rivals 10 two star, one 3 star) (+ yeah, they did get Corp)
ASU: 20 stars (Rivals 4 three star, 4 two star)
Montana: 18 stars (Scout.com seven 2 star, + one additional from Rivals plus one from 09' Scout that sat out last yr according to Ronbo).

No one else totaling more than 13 stars (2 and 3 star).
Not true...as of today, we have three 3-Stars and four 2-Stars for a total of 17 stars, and should get another 3-star in the morning, for a total of 20...doesn't mean a damn thing but since you brought it up, thought I would correct the record. Plus we have several others who would easily be 2-Stars had they been submitted to rated...plus one of our 2-Stars was a 3-Star and the 72nd rated RB all year, until he committed to us...then they dropped him...we also had a commitment who had no stars until he flipped to Memphis this past Monday - he immediately got 2-stars and probably should be a 3-Star...just goes to show you how dubious and inexact the process is.
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BDKJMU wrote:JMU's Rival's commit list has been updated for all 19 signees. And now JMU is showing 14 two star and 2 three star:
http://rivals100.rivals.com/commitlist. ... 2010#page1

I've looked, and this is what I've found so far as far as two and 3 star signees:
JMU 34 stars
UR: 23 stars (Rivals 10 two star, one 3 star) (+ yeah, they did get Corp)
ASU: 20 stars (Rivals 4 three star, 4 two star)
Montana: 18 stars (Scout.com seven 2 star, + one additional from Rivals plus one from 09' Scout that sat out last yr according to Ronbo).

No one else totaling more than 13 stars (2 and 3 star).
Not true...as of today, we have three 3-Stars (one 5.6/55th rated LB) and four 2-Stars (all 5.4's) for a total of 17 stars, and should get another 3-star in the morning, for a total of 20...doesn't mean a damn thing but since you brought it up, thought I would correct the record. Plus we have several others who would easily be 2-Stars had they been submitted to rated...plus one of our 2-Stars was a 3-Star and the 72nd rated RB all year, until he committed to us...then they dropped him...we also had a commitment who had no stars until he flipped to Memphis this past Monday - he immediately got 2-stars and probably should be a 3-Star...just goes to show you how dubious and inexact the process is.
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Everyone wants to talk about their stars. All I know is Jason Hunter, Dexter Jackson, Marcus Murrell, Cory Lynch, and Daniel Wilcox are now playing or played in the NFL and none had a star to their name. Neither did some guy named Edwards who was pretty good too.
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AppMan wrote:Everyone wants to talk about their stars. All I know is Jason Hunter, Dexter Jackson, Marcus Murrell, Cory Lynch, and Daniel Wilcox are now playing or played in the NFL and none had a star to their name. Neither did some guy named Edwards who was pretty good too.
Exactly...for every player Rivals or Scout evaluates and assigns a star rating, they miss two or three kids who are just as good or better - but fall through the cracks. We have a kid here in Louisiana named Lawrence Cayou at McDonogh 35 HS in New Orleans...he slid completely under radar all year long until our local Rivals guy posted his video on PelicanPreps a couple of weeks ago...immediately Texas Tech jumped on him and signed him yesterday...he got a 2-Star rating just for signing with them, but is probably one of the top two or three players in Louisiana this year if you want to be honest about it...he's easily a 4-Star caliber player. Had they not posted his video, he goes without any offers and probably winds up in JC...doesn't have grades from what I was told and may end up there anyway, but the point is, guys are overrated, underrated and not rated at all, all the time, and having a high number of star-rated players doesn't necessarily guarantee a better recruiting class.
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BDKJMU wrote:JMU's Rival's commit list has been updated for all 19 signees. And now JMU is showing 14 two star and 2 three star:
http://rivals100.rivals.com/commitlist. ... 2010#page1

I've looked, and this is what I've found so far as far as two and 3 star signees:
JMU 34 stars
UR: 23 stars (Rivals 10 two star, one 3 star) (+ yeah, they did get Corp)
ASU: 20 stars (Rivals 4 three star, 4 two star)
Montana: 18 stars (Scout.com seven 2 star, + one additional from Rivals plus one from 09' Scout that sat out last yr according to Ronbo).

No one else totaling more than 13 stars (2 and 3 star).

To put this in perspective for JMU, # of stars Rivals showed for the last 6 JMU classes:
05': 12
06': 10
07': 0
08': 9
09': 14
2010': 34

62 million stadium expansion paying off. Build it and they will come. :nod:
Well, how many schollies are these teams giving out? We only had 11 HS schollies to offer. The other 2 went to a JUCO and an FBS transfer..and those are 2 -3's and 3-2's. Then you add our 3 star that is walking on (see other thread viewtopic.php?f=4&t=12638&start=25 for why this happened) and we have 15. The FBS transfer was a 3 star coming out of HS last year. He redshirted so has all 4 yrs left. That, technically, matches Montana's 18.
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Re: 10 top fcs recruiting classes of 2010

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BDKJMU wrote:JMU's Rival's commit list has been updated for all 19 signees. And now JMU is showing 14 two star and 2 three star:
http://rivals100.rivals.com/commitlist. ... 2010#page1

I've looked, and this is what I've found so far as far as two and 3 star signees:
JMU 34 stars
UR: 23 stars (Rivals 10 two star, one 3 star) (+ yeah, they did get Corp)
ASU: 20 stars (Rivals 4 three star, 4 two star)
Montana: 18 stars (Scout.com seven 2 star, + one additional from Rivals plus one from 09' Scout that sat out last yr according to Ronbo).

No one else totaling more than 13 stars (2 and 3 star).

To put this in perspective for JMU, # of stars Rivals showed for the last 6 JMU classes:
05': 12
06': 10
07': 0
08': 9
09': 14
2010': 34

62 million stadium expansion paying off. Build it and they will come. :nod:
Well, how many schollies are these teams giving out? We only had 11 HS schollies to offer. The other 2 went to a JUCO and an FBS transfer..and those are 2 -3's and 3-2's. Then you add our 3 star that is walking on (see other threads for why this happened) and we have 15. The FBS transfer was a 3 star coming out of HS last year. He redshirted so has all 4 yrs left.
You can split scholarships, and if you have kids who are great students and qualify for academic money, you can save there as well.
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Re: 10 top fcs recruiting classes of 2010

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kuntryboimike wrote:just to add on to the dont use rivals...liberty has a 4 star, like 4 3 stars, 3 or 4 2 stars and of course a few 1 stars then like 8 not rated and a couple of them are definate 2-3 star material. liberty destroyed recruiting this yr! go flames!
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kuntryboimike wrote: :shock: WHHHAAAAAAT?! you think you can beat LU by that much when WVU only beat our basically freshman team by 13?! crazyyyyyy. id love to see that game :) with jcourtney williams, mike brown, and many other stellar players we have and are still getting, id love to play montana NEXT yr and see what happens. LU is becoming a force 8-) watch and see! no hate to montana. but you underestimate LU 8-)
I love the enthusiasm and greatly respect and appreciate what you do for our country, but you really need to take a little time to learn more about our program and where we're going and what we have. We had quite a few seniors on the field this year and they were the winningest senior class in school history. JMU beat us by more than WVU did.

Just take a step back from the kool-aid and become a little more level headed. It'll be good for you.
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Re: 10 top fcs recruiting classes of 2010

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BDKJMU wrote:JMU's Rival's commit list has been updated for all 19 signees. And now JMU is showing 14 two star and 2 three star:
http://rivals100.rivals.com/commitlist. ... 2010#page1

I've looked, and this is what I've found so far as far as two and 3 star signees:
JMU 34 stars
UR: 23 stars (Rivals 10 two star, one 3 star) (+ yeah, they did get Corp)
ASU: 20 stars (Rivals 4 three star, 4 two star)
Montana: 18 stars (Scout.com seven 2 star, + one additional from Rivals plus one from 09' Scout that sat out last yr according to Ronbo).
SE LA: 17 (Rivals 3 three star and 4 two star)
No one else totaling more than 13 stars (2 and 3 star).

To put this in perspective for JMU, # of stars Rivals showed for the last 6 JMU classes:
05': 12
06': 10
07': 0
08': 9
09': 14
2010': 34

62 million stadium expansion paying off. Build it and they will come. :nod:
Stars don't mean a whole heck of a lot at our level... but, if you're going to judge off them you have to weigh 3 stars a lot heavier than 2 stars. That's the way Rivals does their rankings. Appalachian has 4 3-star players. JMU has 2. Richmond has 1.

Rivals gives 3-star players close to 4x the amount of points as a 2-star player

The top FBS classes aren't loaded with the most 4-star players... they have a handful of 5-stars and a good bit of 4-stars. Michigan has more "total stars" than USC (your system of ranking :roll: ) but USC is the number 1 rated class and Michigan's is the number 20 rated class. Look at USC 5 star signings.

Here's Rivals's formula... you can figure it out for JMU if you want to since they aren't included in Rivals's rankings:
For purposes of calculating the H and L values (star points), you should only use the top 20 prospects, ordered by # Stars descending. For purposes of calculating the N value (ranking points), use the entire class.

POINTS = ((N / (N + 50)) * H) + ((50 / (N + 50)) * L)

where...

H = 250 for each 5-star commit + 140 for each 4-star + 75 for each 3-star + 20 for each 2-star + 10 for each 1-star

L = 18 for each 5-star + 12 for each 4-star + 8 for each 3-star + 3 for each 2-star + 1 for each 1-star

N = a big honkin' calculation, described below

CALCULATION OF N:
10 for each commit on the Rivals 100 (high school) ranked 1-10
9 for each commit on the Rivals 100 (high school) ranked 11-20
etc. down to...
1 for each commit on the Rivals 100 (high school) ranked 91-100

10 for each commit on the Rivals 100 (non-high school) ranked 1-10
9 for each commit on the Rivals 100 (non-high school) ranked 11-20
etc. down to...
6 for each commit on the Rivals 100 (non-high school) ranked 41-50

24 for each commit ranked #1 on his official position ranking
18 for each commit ranked #2-5 on his official position ranking
8 for each commit ranked 6-X on his official position ranking, where X is dependent on detail position, as listed below...

--Dual-threat QB: 25
--Pro-style QB: 25
--Running Back: 35
--All-Purpose Back: 15
--Fullback: 15
--Wide Receiver: 50
--Tight End: 20
--Offensive Tackle: 40
--Offensive Guard: 30
--Offensive Center: 10
--Defensive Tackle: 50
--Weakside Defensive End: 20
--Strongside Defensive End: 30
--Inside Linebacker: 35
--Outside Linebacker: 35
--Cornerback: 40
--Safety: 30
--Athlete: 25
--Kicker: (no points awarded for rank lower than 5th)

If the team's average stars are greater than 3, add (100 * (Avg stars -
> 3)) to N.
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