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:lol:

I love it.

One of the best things about this site is that the members can fight it out mercilessly but they have to stand on their own and do it because you don't have anyone to blame but yourself.

You eat what you kill, and when it's your time in the barrel you better be able to swim well in tight quarters.

I ain't got a dog in this fight but the hack "double wide" type stuff is pretty played out. Not quite as played out as Grizo's stolen Jackin' Daffy GIF, but still...
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Ursus A. Horribilis wrote: :lol:

I love it.
Watching a cock (er hen) fight is some fun shit, ain't it?
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93henfan wrote:
Ursus A. Horribilis wrote: :lol:

I love it.
Watching a cock (er hen) fight is some fun shit, ain't it?
I'm so used to Grizzly fights over pretty much the exact same bullshit that it really is. :D

I hope to put myself in a Roy Jones Jr. capacity and just sit back and be judgmental about it all.
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Ursus A. Horribilis wrote::lol:

I love it.

One of the best things about this site is that the members can fight it out mercilessly but they have to stand on their own and do it because you don't have anyone to blame but yourself.

You eat what you kill, and when it's your time in the barrel you better be able to swim well in tight quarters.

I ain't got a dog in this fight but the hack "double wide" type stuff is pretty played out. Not quite as played out as Grizo's stolen Jackin' Daffy GIF, but still...
Don't tempt me, fuckhole...like you, I don't have a dog in this fight either, but, as played out, and unfunny as it was, I'm thinkin' of unretireing my "YAWN" gimmick!
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Cluck-

2 points.

1- Any word on if the Huddles are still continuing, & if so could you rpovide a schedule.

2- You could add multiple personality disorder to Bangy's ailments, call his instititution.

Hey, most people don't probably still read AGS, but get this, Henzone posted a semi-apology over there and fessed up that he embellished the whole "black eye" story. One guy, a golf pro that he knew, told him some stuff and HZ just ran with the rest, sad story, the guy needs professional help.
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bluehenbillk wrote:Henzone posted a semi-apology over there and fessed up that he embellished the whole "black eye" story. One guy, a golf pro that he knew, told him some stuff and HZ just ran with the rest, sad story, the guy needs professional help.
There's no way to know for sure what his motivation was for posting that nonsense to begin with.

One thing's for sure, UD has alot of VERY old fans, that are grizzled for a number of reasons...and Henzone sounds to be one of them. Just getting old in general, changes happening in their old football program, not having the same income that they once did, the world moving faster, long time friends passing, etc. When I sit in some of our family heirloom seats down lower in Section D (I also have my own in J) there is an overwhelming amount of geriatric disgruntlement. I've been challenged before for being too loud, or standing up (once a quarter), or correcting elderly befuddlement about what goes on during the game, or getting asked 'what business' do I have being in that section to begin with.

I recognize that there are some things going on with pricing and donations, etc that are going to make things more expensive for many. In my opinion, a positive effect is that it's going to get some younger people who are energized about UD sports in better seats. I just hope they don't go too far with their pricing.
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State Line Liquors wrote:
bluehenbillk wrote:Henzone posted a semi-apology over there and fessed up that he embellished the whole "black eye" story. One guy, a golf pro that he knew, told him some stuff and HZ just ran with the rest, sad story, the guy needs professional help.
There's no way to know for sure what his motivation was for posting that nonsense to begin with.

One thing's for sure, UD has alot of VERY old fans, that are grizzled for a number of reasons...and Henzone sounds to be one of them. Just getting old in general, changes happening in their old football program, not having the same income that they once did, the world moving faster, long time friends passing, etc. When I sit in some of our family heirloom seats down lower in Section D (I also have my own in J) there is an overwhelming amount of geriatric disgruntlement. I've been challenged before for being too loud, or standing up (once a quarter), or correcting elderly befuddlement about what goes on during the game, or getting asked 'what business' do I have being in that section to begin with.

I recognize that there are some things going on with pricing and donations, etc that are going to make things more expensive for many. In my opinion, a positive effect is that it's going to get some younger people who are energized about UD sports in better seats. I just hope they don't go too far with their pricing.
State Line - you're right on. Have sat in Section C the past 3 decades and there's a good mix nowadays, but I share your sentiment there are a lot of old-timers. I went to one of the town meetings in April, I'm 40 years old & other than the sports management students that were there, I'm pretty sure I was the youngest guy in the room. Guys like BHB & Henzone, Oldhen, etc, they're the old guard. I agree with you to a point that it may be a good thing if the whole UDAF thing shifts the crowd demographics. As long as there are just as many people in attendance, maybe it makes the Tub a tougher place to play for visiting teams.
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I stopped into a cigar shop a couple of weekends ago on the way to the beach. I walked into the humidor with a Delaware shirt on and there was an older fellow that said "Blue Hens, huh?" and we discussed the football team for about ten minutes. It was ten minutes of the same shiz that you guys are talking about. I kicked myself after I left that I didn't ask if he was a member on GoHens. Anyway, on the way out I noticed the dude had a big ass black Suburban with a single number UD plate and a Delaware helmet trailer hitch cover. He also mentioned he's a $1,000 parking space donor. Anyone know the curmudgeon?
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My experience sitting in the "old guard" section "D" a few times was the same. They LOVE their Hens. Pre-game UD Band routine, 3rd quarter traveling band in the stands, fight song....all bring a reaction. During the game, however, there's the occasional guy who stands and bitches the whole game but no concerted effort to exert a 12th man role.....unlike section "J" across the way where getting Mickey to throw the hat is a pre-ordained goal.
The "loyal elders" do travel, however... UD certainly has a loyal following on the road.
Since the visiting fans have now been moved from adjacent to the student section to adjacent to Section "J", there's some spirited repartee that now occurs. JMU students summed it up, however, with their "AARP, AARP, AARP" chant as well as "Where's your students, Where's your students".....another major issue.
There's room for both contingents of UD fans and I, for one, do hope that the "loyal elders" are not priced out...I'd freeze their tickets and costs...leave them in their seats...as long as they're able to attend and enjoy their Hens.
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mainejeff wrote:I really enjoyed GoHens.
So did I... it kept all the assholes over there. :lol:
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NorthHen wrote: There's room for both contingents of UD fans and I, for one, do hope that the "loyal elders" are not priced out...I'd freeze their tickets and costs...leave them in their seats...as long as they're able to attend and enjoy their Hens.
Yea, I can see that working out, if you're over this age your seats are "x" and if you're under an age it's this, even if the younger group has had tickets longer. Allentown State Hospital arranges weekend outings? How bout that!
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89Hen wrote:
mainejeff wrote:I really enjoyed GoHens.
So did I... it kept all the assholes over there. :lol:
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God dammit!

I was just getting over having to deal with all of the fuck-tarded UD posters that invaded panthernation in 2007 and now they are all here...


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clenz wrote:God dammit!

I was just getting over having to deal with all of the ****-tarded UD posters that invaded panthernation in 2007 and now they are all here...


Son of a bitch
You had Koli/HenGrad07 to deal with back then. BangorHen/Slaterhen/UDPA/North Hen - as he's going now is on the same level, an elderly institutionalized guy that tries to talk down from a pedestal at you. There are some other ones too, one guy was responsible for opening the floodgates over here as he threw out a half-fabricated thread that closed gohens down. I hope he's getting help, Bangy could recommend a couple facilities he's been in - douchebags.

What's UNI fans getting upset about, aren't you already counting down to Midnight Madness????
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bluehenbillk wrote:
clenz wrote:God dammit!

I was just getting over having to deal with all of the ****-tarded UD posters that invaded panthernation in 2007 and now they are all here...


Son of a bitch
You had Koli/HenGrad07 to deal with back then. BangorHen/Slaterhen/UDPA/North Hen - as he's going now is on the same level, an elderly institutionalized guy that tries to talk down from a pedestal at you. There are some other ones too, one guy was responsible for opening the floodgates over here as he threw out a half-fabricated thread that closed gohens down. I hope he's getting help, Bangy could recommend a couple facilities he's been in - douchebags.

What's UNI fans getting upset about, aren't you already counting down to Midnight Madness????
There is still a blue hen that stops by every now and then and is a pretty cool guy, I can't remember his screen name though. I remember the name HenGrad07 though, and I'd be glad to pull up some of those threads to see if you remember the names on them. The UD week was probably one of the worst weeks in PN history in terms of visiting team invaders (I'd go with UD FB 07, NDSU every year, UNLV BB '10, BYU '09, and just Iowa all the time as the worst schools to ever come to PN)


And it is roughly 161 days until our first exhibition game. I don't know what day it will be, but if we are going off of last years schedule and using that same weekend we get 161 days. Midnight madness isn't a big thing here. Our guys play in a league just south of Cedar Falls call the Prime Time League that gets players from Iowa, Iowa State, Drake, and UNI, along with some former players and incoming recruits, split up into 4-8 teams. Our team also works out pretty much non-stop through the year.


I'm more excited for August right now, hopefully basketball with be second fiddle for me until January this year.
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bluehenbillk wrote:You had Koli
:o The name that shall not be mentioned. He's a thorn that goes back to the AOL message board days.
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89Hen wrote:
bluehenbillk wrote:You had Koli
:o The name that shall not be mentioned. He's a thorn that goes back to the AOL message board days.
Yep, it was the Rivals board actually. Some posters on gohens thought it was just stuff directed at KC. I think Tubby got criticized even more, nothing slanderous like ended gohens for now but there was all kinds of stuff.
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NorthHen wrote:The "discussion" of Keeler went way beyond "tipping". Multiple examples were provided of an arrogant, pompous attitude displayed in public and also when meeting with high school coaches. The "pro-Keelers" dismissed the "reports" as untrue and attacked the character of the posters providing the information....common strategy whenever any "negative" ideas are posted about UD football.
The "anti-Keelers" took offense....some even had fun with it and invented tales....Halloween candy cheapskate, car wash cheapskate, etc (Hens05 a primary "contributor"). The "defenders"... with brain unconnected... even defended Keeler against made up tales.
An apparent insider logged in to threaten a coaching boycott of the Board and the closing of practice to the public as retaliation.
The "insiders" stepped in to put an end to the frivolity.
Bottom line.... the Keeler era has stirred up the troops...the "insiders" have pulled up the drawbridge on the moat.
Excellent assessement.
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NorthHen wrote: There's room for both contingents of UD fans and I, for one, do hope that the "loyal elders" are not priced out...I'd freeze their tickets and costs...leave them in their seats...as long as they're able to attend and enjoy their Hens.
I wish you were right. I'm in no way a disrespectful younger person, but I'm pretty much given up on the group hug concept with some of our elders (thus catching the second half in J or higher up with less ancient family in D). Just because I sit in a seat down there some games doesn't make me some hot in the wallet young cuss. Thanks to the Greatest Generation for their contributions to the country, but don't expect me to beg forgiveness every time I want to watch my alma mater play football in a seat that's my ticketed right to park my butt in. UD fans need to start recognizing that a seat or a parking spot is not a legal right taken to the grave, but a privilege (as seen by some of us) provided by the money paid for it.
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GannonFan wrote:
NorthHen wrote:Go back to my first post...

"...the pro-Keelers attack the character of the posters providing the information..."

Strategy now at work... paranoia about a poster who previously challenged their thinking. Not unusual... prior posters have been accused of being "Harold R", "absolutehen", "HenGrad07", and other anti-status -quo challengers. Instead of debating ideas... the KCKlan sees terrorists lurking on a keyboard in an undisclosed location.

The goal is to direct attention away from the main issues being addressed. Notice that none of the facts presented regarding the current status of UD football have been refuted. THIS is what the GoHens Board became... a planned attempt by "KC and the Sunshine Gang" to discredit anyone raising issues....not by discussing the issues but by attacking the messengers.
There have been innumerable posters who have prefaced their remarks by indicating they usually just read rather than post since they choose not to be attacked.
There are long time posters who have left the Board rather than endure constant personal attacks as well as juvenile rants.

So....let's see... there were issues presented regarding the discontent of some UD fans... actual issues... not paranoia about a ghost who continues to spook the booster club. "The whole world is watching".
Come on, Bangy, just admit it - you couldn't exist civily with others, you couldn't resist damning UD and the coaches and employees and even the players in most every post and thread, and you were the biggest reason why HR felt the need to close the board (despite throwing you off the board on at least two other ocassions). While most of us could exercise the adult virtue of restraint and could respect HR's repeated pleas to keep the site from descending into what it became, you just couldn't stop yourself from repeating your attacks, on UD and other posters, over and over and over again. Even when people ignored you you still made pointed attacks at them. Face it, you just couldn't help yourself to be an ass - it's just who you are.

As for the "issues", you make it seem like the vast majority of posters ignored the issues. When in reality, most posters, myself included, were quite vocal about and concerned about 1)KC's need to win (i.e. playoffs) this year or probably start looking elsewhere 2) that UD should be playing an FBS team at least every other year 3) that UD shouldn't have more than 1 patsy on the OOC schedule (and having WCU and Duquesne both this year went one too far) 3) that the administration was risking fanbase revolt by potentially jacking up season tix price to 150% without a change in direction (i.e. FBS versus FCS status). How is that ignoring the issues? How does that make someone considered to be Sunshine?

Heck, in some ways, I'm glad you're posting elsewhere these days. While I could respect and abide by HR's intentions for his site and I went out of my way to ignore and not respond to you on GoHens as you repeatedly disrespected and mocked HR and his work (to the point of shutting down his site), this site by no means is worried about being sullied by such exchanges. So by all means, welcome aboard. :lol:
Civility has little to do with the matter and to pin the shutdown of the site on one poster is ridiculous. Lot of posters were behaving badly. It seems that the University has done a poor job in preparing it's grads, if most of the posters are grads, to engage in critical thinking. Rather than support a postion with facts, there would be an attack on the poster, as you have done here. When folks were pressed to back up what they wrote, the thin veneer of thier intellect washed away easily. They'd get mad and respond viscerally. You happen to be one of the more thoughtful posters from the site and at times are able to see both sides of the issues. The vast majority of folks who would be considered by me blind KC supporters couldn't tolerate any dissent from thier postion.

Trying to scapegoat one person for the shutdown of a website is just silly and beneath that fine mind of yours. :thumbdown:
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Tubby Raymond wrote: Rather than support a postion with facts, there would be an attack on the poster, as you have done here. When folks were pressed to back up what they wrote, the thin veneer of thier intellect washed away easily. They'd get mad and respond viscerally. You happen to be one of the more thoughtful posters from the site and at times are able to see both sides of the issues. The vast majority of folks who would be considered by me blind KC supporters couldn't tolerate any dissent from thier postion.
Ahhhh....yes. Let's address those "facts", shall we?

Originally Posted by Henzone
It wasn't gossip. 3 strangers don't confront you with a story without a degree of legitimacy involved. I had several PM's thanking me for relating the incident.


Originally Posted by Henzone
I posted yesterday on this site which was my first post since joing in 2007. I quickly deleted the post because of a typical gohens reaction to my apology. I'll try a second time and hopefully will not need to post again in the near future. First , I fibbed a little in that in hearing the complaints about KC, I spoke with the pro at the CC whom I know and respect. He quickly gave me an earfull about our coach. So, I KNOW the tale was true. I did not mention my relationship with him because I truly felt some of those who know me on gohens would trace the info back to him which I'm sure he wouldn't appreciate. Disappointed and embarassed for our program and for KC's arrogance, even though the actions were in the past, I felt the need to share them with my fellow Hen fans. I had a very difficult time with KC's personality when he first arrived at UD and during his first several years on the job. Recently he seems to have become quite a bit more humble and personable so I was extremely miffed when I heard the story. Bad judgement in sharing...perhaps. Anti KC...not really , just disappointed that his actions were not what is expected by someone in his position.


So, Henzone hears a single story about an incident - and hears it from ONE person - and then Henzone turns it into a story where THREE separate people confronted him and ruined his day because they saw his Blue Hen head covers. Henzone said he shouldn't have had to suffer from such an "attack" as he is just an innocent, long-time Blue Hen fan getting ambushed out of nowhere on a beautiful golf outing because of Keeler's behavior. Watch out Hen fans.....Keeler's behavior will forever tarnish the pride you have in our beloved university. :roll:

Of course, to show that he is not just a blind KC hater, Henzone tosses out a line that, in his eyes, KC has has become more personable and humble in recent years.

Odd then, that Henzone feels it necessary to slander Keeler for something that may or may not have happened 3 years ago. :shock: Then Bangy tosses in some "ring" story he heard several years ago...another clown thinks it is important to bring in a story that KC, in front of a B-ball crowd no less, told the crowd that HE alone brought a championship to the university...not the student athletes. :rofl:

Yup, lots of "facts" there. Overflowing with "intellect" and honesty. Some people challenged the accuracy of such posts and the intent of the posters. Turns out, the story wasn't true....so glad you are on record as supporting Bangy's summary of the thread. :thumb:
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Cluck U wrote:
Tubby Raymond wrote: Rather than support a postion with facts, there would be an attack on the poster, as you have done here. When folks were pressed to back up what they wrote, the thin veneer of thier intellect washed away easily. They'd get mad and respond viscerally. You happen to be one of the more thoughtful posters from the site and at times are able to see both sides of the issues. The vast majority of folks who would be considered by me blind KC supporters couldn't tolerate any dissent from thier postion.
Ahhhh....yes. Let's address those "facts", shall we?

Originally Posted by Henzone
It wasn't gossip. 3 strangers don't confront you with a story without a degree of legitimacy involved. I had several PM's thanking me for relating the incident.


Originally Posted by Henzone
I posted yesterday on this site which was my first post since joing in 2007. I quickly deleted the post because of a typical gohens reaction to my apology. I'll try a second time and hopefully will not need to post again in the near future. First , I fibbed a little in that in hearing the complaints about KC, I spoke with the pro at the CC whom I know and respect. He quickly gave me an earfull about our coach. So, I KNOW the tale was true. I did not mention my relationship with him because I truly felt some of those who know me on gohens would trace the info back to him which I'm sure he wouldn't appreciate. Disappointed and embarassed for our program and for KC's arrogance, even though the actions were in the past, I felt the need to share them with my fellow Hen fans. I had a very difficult time with KC's personality when he first arrived at UD and during his first several years on the job. Recently he seems to have become quite a bit more humble and personable so I was extremely miffed when I heard the story. Bad judgement in sharing...perhaps. Anti KC...not really , just disappointed that his actions were not what is expected by someone in his position.


So, Henzone hears a single story about an incident - and hears it from ONE person - and then Henzone turns it into a story where THREE separate people confronted him and ruined his day because they saw his Blue Hen head covers. Henzone said he shouldn't have had to suffer from such an "attack" as he is just an innocent, long-time Blue Hen fan getting ambushed out of nowhere on a beautiful golf outing because of Keeler's behavior. Watch out Hen fans.....Keeler's behavior will forever tarnish the pride you have in our beloved university. :roll:

Of course, to show that he is not just a blind KC hater, Henzone tosses out a line that, in his eyes, KC has has become more personable and humble in recent years.

Odd then, that Henzone feels it necessary to slander Keeler for something that may or may not have happened 3 years ago. :shock: Then Bangy tosses in some "ring" story he heard several years ago...another clown thinks it is important to bring in a story that KC, in front of a B-ball crowd no less, told the crowd that HE alone brought a championship to the university...not the student athletes. :rofl:

Yup, lots of "facts" there. Overflowing with "intellect" and honesty. Some people challenged the accuracy of such posts and the intent of the posters. Turns out, the story wasn't true....so glad you are on record as supporting Bangy's summary of the thread. :thumb:
Nice try in distorting my point . My post referanced the attempt to place the responsibility for the site closing on one well known poster . Taking my quote out of context is a lame attempt to make a point that demonizing one poster or maybe two, were the only problems or problem posters on the site. Not to see your own share in the problems there is just silly.
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Tubby Raymond wrote: Nice try in distorting my point . My post referanced the attempt to place the responsibility for the site closing on one well known poster . Taking my quote out of context is a lame attempt to make a point that demonizing one poster or maybe two, were the only problems or problem posters on the site. Not to see your own share in the problems there is just silly.
And yours. :nod:

You supported Bangy and his ilk...not so subtly noted by your "excellent assessment" quote above and this other telling quote: "[u]The vast majority of folks who would be considered by me blind KC supporters couldn't tolerate any dissent from their postion." [/u] :nod: My follow up was directly related to you feeling the need to toss in a line about the "blind KC supporters"...and the nonsense that the KC supporters were out of line for questioning the "facts"...several of which were later admitted to be fabricated, others unsubstantiated, and another simply a cry for help.

Fact is, Bangy played the major part in shutting down GoHens. He, and a select few others, consistently trolled every thread, on every forum, and turned them into anti-Keeler broadcasts. BangorHen, SlaterHen, UDPA was banned several times for launching into unwarranted and repeated personal attacks...so to not understand his impact is to ignore reality. It seems that same clowns continue to defend him and his actions. Perhaps you have forgotten that several of the Bangy supporters also publicly insulted HensRock for trying to keep things civil? Pointedly, those folks shared the same anti-Keeler feelings and encouraged Bangy to keep up his rants..."go team Tubby!"
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Post by ChickenMan »

The major compliant relative to the issues with the GoHens site seemed to be that there was too much negativism and bitching relative to Mr Keeler's performance. However the reality is that at Delaware.. when you have experienced four poor seasons in the past five years and your team hasn't been able to beat a single conference opponent with a winning record over the last two years.. you should damn well expect negativity. The problem (bitching) by the anti- Keeler crowd was expasterated when many in the pro Keeler faction refused to acknowledge ANY problem at all.. which resulted in personal attacks flying between the pro and anti KC forces. The result was an endless debate which became increasingly personal and bitter.. with BOTH sides contributing to the problem.

I have no problem with the site being suspended.. if suspension is actually what is occuring.. as a cooling off period might be a good idea.. but I certainly hope that HR returns with GoHens later this summer as we approach the pre season.
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Re: GoHens.net board suspended indefinitely.

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Hey Tubby, you do realize that you've been agreeing with one of the larger morons/douchebags that has been referenced right here on this very thread. Don't make us send you back to the UMass board that you troll....
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