TSN Poll-Sept 27

[grizzaholic]

+1

I've got a whole passle of 'em. I'll send you each one.

OK...but the animals had better not be colored in yet.

[BigSkyFootball]

Someone at TSN must be smoking crack . . . Elon, with a 1-3 record, in the top 25? Who did they lose to, the Pittsburgh Steelers? Don't tell me they played a tough schedule, either; 3 losses is still 3 losses and no one should be ranked at this time with losses in 3 of their first 4 games. How's the best defensive team in the Big Sky Conference, NAU, (look at the stats) not ranked in the top 25? I want to get a hold of whatever TSN is smokin' for my next tailgate.

[Ursus A. Horribilis]

+1

I've got a whole passle of 'em. I'll send you each one.

I knew you were into that shit too.

[AZGrizFan]

I've got a whole passle of 'em. I'll send you each one.

I knew you were into that shit too.

You and Grizza are like bruthas from another mutha.

[WyomingGrizFan]

Accept the fact that your team is mediocre this year. It'll just make the continual losing that much easier to take.

This isn't about my team. I didn't expect UNI to be a very good team this year.

This is about where, and why you think they should be ranked or not ranked. The fact that you think Montana is top 25 worthy and UNI is not, is just ridiculous.

Why don't you just accept the fact that YOUR team is mediocre this year.

Yeah, but a mediocre year for the Griz is like saying the best year in the history of about 98 % of the I-AA FCS teams that are still around.

[grizzaholic]

I knew you were into that shit too.

You and Grizza are like bruthas from another mutha.

[89Hen]

Yeah, but a mediocre year for the Griz is like saying the best year in the history of about 98 % of the I-AA FCS teams that are still around.

Because you play in a shit conference.

[urmite]

Would this poll make a "little" more sense if it was sorted by losses then rank?

1 2. Appalachian State Mountaineers (24) 4-0 3,466 2
2 3. James Madison Dukes (22) 3-0 3,381 3
3 4. Jacksonville State Gamecocks (5) 4-0 3,166 4
4 5. Delaware Blue Hens (1) 4-0 3,021 7
5 1. Villanova Wildcats (94) 3-1 3,567 1
6 6. Stephen F. Austin Lumberjacks 3-1 2,905 6
7 7. William & Mary Tribe 3-1 2,642 8
8 8. Massachusetts Minutemen 3-1 2,439 11
9 9. South Carolina State Bulldogs 2-1 2,194 12
10 10. Montana State Bobcats 3-1 2,158 17
11 13. North Dakota State Bison 3-1 1,710 18
12 15. Cal Poly Mustangs 3-1 1,530 20
13 18. Furman Paladins 2-1 1,006 23
14 19. Georgia Southern Eagles 3-1 802 NR
15 20. Texas State Bobcats 3-1 693 NR
16 22. Youngstown State Penguins 3-1 529 NR
17 23. Illinois State Redbirds 3-1 522 NR
18 11. Richmond Spiders 1-2 1,848 5
19 12. Montana Grizzlies 2-2 1,755 14
20 14. New Hampshire Wildcats 2-2 1,606 16
21 16. Eastern Washington Eagles 2-2 1,323 9
22 17. Northern Iowa Panthers 1-2 1,018 15
23 25. Liberty Flames 2-2 332 22
24 21. Elon Phoenix 1-3 689 10
25 24. Southern Illinois Salukis 1-3 421 13

[AZGrizFan]

Yeah, but a mediocre year for the Griz is like saying the best year in the history of about 98 % of the I-AA FCS teams that are still around.

Because you play in a shit conference.

There we have it. An admission by the biggest ECB homer on the board. Griz dominate, it's a shit conference, Griz are beatable, it's because the Griz suck.

It's a no win argument for BSC fans and I won't be playing your games anymore, you rat bastard.

[89Hen]

There we have it. An admission by the biggest ECB homer on the board. Griz dominate, it's a shit conference, Griz are beatable, it's because the Griz suck.

Uh, yeah. When you are having a down year, you're supposed to lose... see the CAA, MVFC, SoCon, etc...

When you have a down year in the Big Fluff, you share the title with a 7-5 team and lose in the first round at home. Didn't we agree just yesterday that the Griz won't lose another game until the Brawl?

[DJH]

When is the last time a non montana big sky team made a deep playoff run? I can't think of any.

[89Hen]

When is the last time a non montana big sky team made a deep playoff run? I can't think of any.

Ooh, I know... it was when Bill Clinton was in office.

[Ursus A. Horribilis]

When is the last time a non montana big sky team made a deep playoff run? I can't think of any.

I don't know what you consider a deep run but our second team in is usually on the road to a top ranked MVFC seeded school to take them out at home.

[AZGrizFan]

There we have it. An admission by the biggest ECB homer on the board. Griz dominate, it's a shit conference, Griz are beatable, it's because the Griz suck.

Uh, yeah. When you are having a down year, you're supposed to lose... see the CAA, MVFC, SoCon, etc...

When you have a down year in the Big Fluff, you share the title with a 7-5 team and lose in the first round at home. Didn't we agree just yesterday that the Griz won't lose another game until the Brawl?

[tribe_pride]

When is the last time a non montana big sky team made a deep playoff run? I can't think of any.

I don't know what you consider a deep run but our second team in is usually on the road to a top ranked MVFC seeded school to take them out at home.

Is a Montana fan really making the "but the Big Sky team has to travel for a playoff game" argument?

[AZGrizFan]

When is the last time a non montana big sky team made a deep playoff run? I can't think of any.

Ooh, I know... it was when Bill Clinton was in office.

What constitutes a "deep run"?

Four times in the last 8 years, we've had 3 different teams be one of the last 8 standing.

2003 - NAU quarterfinalist
2004 - EWU quarterfinalist
2006 - Montana State quarterfinalist
2007 - EWU quarterfinalist

But, I will NOT have that argument again. You guys are entitled to your opinion, no matter how wrong it might be.

Edit: and BTW, the last time a MVFC team NOT named UNI threatened for the NC was when Clinton was in office too.

[AZGrizFan]

I don't know what you consider a deep run but our second team in is usually on the road to a top ranked MVFC seeded school to take them out at home.

Is a Montana fan really making the "but the Big Sky team has to travel for a playoff game" argument?

The Big Sky team not named Montana.

[Gil Dobie]

...and BTW, the last time a MVFC team NOT named UNI threatened for the NC was when Clinton was in office too.

2002 Western Kentucky National Champions

[DJH]

Along with UNIs title game appearance a few years ago, WKU won the national title, and there have been several other appearances in the semifinals by MVFC teams.

And don't forget NDSU's mythical national title in '07.

[Ursus A. Horribilis]

I don't know what you consider a deep run but our second team in is usually on the road to a top ranked MVFC seeded school to take them out at home.

Is a Montana fan really making the "but the Big Sky team has to travel for a playoff game" argument?

I realize a tribe fan doesn't have much to argue about in any sort of a playoff argument but no I was saying they had success IN SPITE of traveling to the homes of others. Surely you can understand that.

[AZGrizFan]

...and BTW, the last time a MVFC team NOT named UNI threatened for the NC was when Clinton was in office too.

2002 Western Kentucky National Champions

Huh. I thought they came from the OVC.

[tribe_pride]

Is a Montana fan really making the "but the Big Sky team has to travel for a playoff game" argument?

I realize a tribe fan doesn't have much to argue about in any sort of a playoff argument but no I was saying they had success IN SPITE of traveling to the homes of others. Surely you can understand that.

Just messing with you Ursus.

I'll be the first to say that the Tribe appears to be overrated this year (in the pollsters eyes) and will need to improve big time before talking about making the playoffs. This is a big week for us.

[Ursus A. Horribilis]

I realize a tribe fan doesn't have much to argue about in any sort of a playoff argument but no I was saying they had success IN SPITE of traveling to the homes of others. Surely you can understand that.

Just messing with you Ursus.

I'll be the first to say that the Tribe appears to be overrated this year (in the pollsters eyes) and will need to improve big time before talking about making the playoffs. This is a big week for us.

Ahhh hell tp, we gotta keep it going longer than this otherwise the new guys ain't gonna believe there truly is a WC/ECB thing going on.

I'll believe you're over rated when I see you lose to a team that you shouldn't have. Not when you lose to a team that gave Michigan a god damn heart attack.

[clenz]

I went back to 1998, so those may be "too far back" but here are the non-UNI MVFC quarterfinal or later appearances.

1998
WIU lost in quarterfinals

1999
ISUR lost in quaterfinals
YSU lost in national championship

2002
WKU won national championship
WIU lost to WKU in the quaterfinals

2003
WIU lost in quarterfinals

2005
SIU lost in quarterfinals

2006
YSU lost in the semi-finals
SIU lost in the quaterfinals
ISUR lost to YSU in the quarterfinals

2007
SIU lost in the semi's

2009
SIU lost in the quarter finals

[89Hen]

What constitutes a "deep run"?

Four times in the last 8 years, we've had 3 different teams be one of the last 8 standing.

2003 - NAU quarterfinalist
2004 - EWU quarterfinalist
2006 - Montana State quarterfinalist
2007 - EWU quarterfinalist

But, I will NOT have that argument again. You guys are entitled to your opinion, no matter how wrong it might be.

Edit: and BTW, the last time a MVFC team NOT named UNI threatened for the NC was when Clinton was in office too.

Quarterfinalist? Quarterfinalist?

Who gives a rats ass about the MVFC? They suck too.

2009 - Villanova - National Champion, W&M - Semifinalist
2008 - Richmond - National Champion, JMU - Semifinalist
2007 - Delaware - National Runner-up, W&M and Richmond - Semifinalist
2006 - UMass - National Runner-up
2004 - JMU - National Champion, W&M - Semifinalist
2003 - Delaware - National Champion