ODU's first CAA football victim

[Tribal]

Firstly, there is no justification for underestimating Towson. They have several years of experience in the toughest conference in the FCS. Okay, so their only 2010-2011 win (Coastal Carolina) took 5 OTs at home. I get that. But don't assume for a second that they will be pushovers. Secondly, while I hope some of you are correct about W&M, the Tribe have a few serious question marks. If they play the way they did against UMass, JMU, and GSU, it'll be a long season. The only saving grace for many of ODU's CAA opponents at that the games are later in the season. ODU is going to have a ton of confidence after their first 3 games. I wouldn't want my team to play them that 4th game. I agree with the other Tribe poster--no mid-season break will test their depth. A few injuries and they could lose every CAA game. Of course, JMU and W&M could be down to their 3 string QB by the time they play ODU. That may be all it takes for an upset.

[Tribal]

Also, futureodualum11, your avatar sucks and you should be banned for that. The good news is you should have recently graduated, so you can opt for username "newbieodualum."

[ODUalum11]

Firstly, there is no justification for underestimating Towson. They have several years of experience in the toughest conference in the FCS. Okay, so their only 2010-2011 win (Coastal Carolina) took 5 OTs at home. I get that. But don't assume for a second that they will be pushovers. Secondly, while I hope some of you are correct about W&M, the Tribe have a few serious question marks. If they play the way they did against UMass, JMU, and GSU, it'll be a long season. The only saving grace for many of ODU's CAA opponents at that the games are later in the season. ODU is going to have a ton of confidence after their first 3 games. I wouldn't want my team to play them that 4th game. I agree with the other Tribe poster--no mid-season break will test their depth. A few injuries and they could lose every CAA game. Of course, JMU and W&M could be down to their 3 string QB by the time they play ODU. That may be all it takes for an upset.

Agree with everything you said. Monarch fans should follow the phrase that Wilder used for his players last season and thats "humble but hungry". I might come across as a pessimist but thats what I'm following going into this season. I actually think that should have been used for this season.

To date, we haven't done anything to prove we can be competitive from week to week in the CAA. Yeah, we were competitive against WM but it was at home and the Tribe and Tribe fans will agree with me that they shot themselves in the foot time and time again with turnovers in the redzone, and missed field goals.

We were already hit with the injury bug somewhat as one of our starting D-lineman ruptured his achilles tendon on the second to last day of spring football and might be out for the season so thats a huge hit already.

[ODUalum11]

Also, futureodualum11, your avatar sucks and you should be banned for that. The good news is you should have recently graduated, so you can opt for username "newbieodualum."

Haha if I were you I wouldnt care since you guys still won the game. Also I am thinking of opting for a new username.

[Tribal]

Congratulations, graduate. That's a big achievement (I'm not being sarcastic).

[ODUalum11]

Congratulations, graduate. That's a big achievement (I'm not being sarcastic).

Thanks Tribal!!!

[TheDancinMonarch]

I wouldn't be so bold as to make a prediction. I just hope that, when the dust settles at the end of the year, we have a CAA victory under our belt.

[JMUDuke2002]

I wouldn't be so bold as to make a prediction. I just hope that, when the dust settles at the end of the year, we have a CAA victory under our belt.

I think you'll have more than one. But who knows. Hell, JMU could go undefeated in the CAA this year or lose every single game. Such is the beast that is the CAA. Every week is a big week. Every week you are facing a well coached, talented team. It never lets up. I think that will be the key for ODU. How will the players respond after being punched in the neck by a CAA foe and then having to face another the next week. But, don't sell yourselves short. You have a veteran team that will be competitive. Or, you lose your starting quarterback the first game and all goes to hell.

[DaBigBlue]

Most ODU, like myself feel one or two wins will be huge in the CAA. Last year we had 74 underclassmen, this will be our first year where we are playing more upperclassmen than underclassmen.
Andrew Turner the DE who blew out his achilles tendon, may ask for the 6th year of eligibility. Anybody know what chance this fine player will have with the NCAA granting this.

[GannonFan]

Most ODU, like myself feel one or two wins will be huge in the CAA. Last year we had 74 underclassmen, this will be our first year where we are playing more upperclassmen than underclassmen.
Andrew Turner the DE who blew out his achilles tendon, may ask for the 6th year of eligibility. Anybody know what chance this fine player will have with the NCAA granting this.

If he ever took a redshirt year for a non-medical reason, he has no shot whatsoever to get a 6th year. 6th years are only for players who've been hurt and ended their seasons twice, and where they lost their whole seasons both times to injuries (the NCAA does give a little leeway in this, a whole season can be something like 85% lost for instance). And even then, it's not a guarantee to get a 6th year. So if he ever sat out a year transferring from one FBS school to another FBS school (or and FCS to FCS transfer), or if he just sat out a year for a non-medical reason (a typical redshirt year, like when freshmen don't play their first year on campus) then he's out of luck.

[Tribe4SF]

Also, futureodualum11, your avatar sucks and you should be banned for that. The good news is you should have recently graduated, so you can opt for username "newbieodualum."

Haha if I were you I wouldnt care since you guys still won the game. Also I am thinking of opting for a new username.

The avatar is fine with me. DJ Mangas caught the pass, and gained good yardage on that play.

Congrats on graduating!

[CAA Flagship]

Most ODU, like myself feel one or two wins will be huge in the CAA. Last year we had 74 underclassmen, this will be our first year where we are playing more upperclassmen than underclassmen.
Andrew Turner the DE who blew out his achilles tendon, may ask for the 6th year of eligibility. Anybody know what chance this fine player will have with the NCAA granting this.

If he ever took a redshirt year for a non-medical reason, he has no shot whatsoever to get a 6th year. 6th years are only for players who've been hurt and ended their seasons twice, and where they lost their whole seasons both times to injuries (the NCAA does give a little leeway in this, a whole season can be something like 85% lost for instance). And even then, it's not a guarantee to get a 6th year. So if he ever sat out a year transferring from one FBS school to another FBS school (or and FCS to FCS transfer), or if he just sat out a year for a non-medical reason (a typical redshirt year, like when freshmen don't play their first year on campus) then he's out of luck.

Ah yes, but you haven't addressed his case. His redshirt year was his freshman year, the year before Old Dominion played their first game. So this is a bit unusual that is particular to start-up programs. I say he gets the 6th year because the first redshirt year was not his decision (other than the fact that he chose to be in the first recruiting class of a start-up program).

[ODUalum11]

Haha if I were you I wouldnt care since you guys still won the game. Also I am thinking of opting for a new username.

The avatar is fine with me. DJ Mangas caught the pass, and gained good yardage on that play.

Congrats on graduating!

Thanks Tribe!

I'm surprised you knew what play that picture is from. I had no idea, just liked the picture regardless of outcome.

I think Turner will get the extra year of eligibility because he was part of that first recruiting class in '08 where everybody redshirted. I believe this year he can use a medical redshirt which can grant him another year? Correct me if I'm wrong on this.

[ODUalum11]

For those interested...

NORFOLK, Va. -- In case you weren't able to tune into College Football Country to catch Old Dominion head football Coach Bobby Wilder, you can now listen to the interview on Monarch All-Access.

Wilder was a guest on the nationally syndicated College Football Country radio show with host Jason Toy at the end of May. College Football Country, a weekly program on the Motor Racing Network which airs on Saturdays from 8-10 a.m. with host Jason Toy of the 1992 I-AA Championship Marshall University Thundering Herd, highlighted Old Dominion and the Monarchs' journey from a start-up to joining the Colonial Athletic Association (CAA) this fall.

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[GannonFan]

If he ever took a redshirt year for a non-medical reason, he has no shot whatsoever to get a 6th year. 6th years are only for players who've been hurt and ended their seasons twice, and where they lost their whole seasons both times to injuries (the NCAA does give a little leeway in this, a whole season can be something like 85% lost for instance). And even then, it's not a guarantee to get a 6th year. So if he ever sat out a year transferring from one FBS school to another FBS school (or and FCS to FCS transfer), or if he just sat out a year for a non-medical reason (a typical redshirt year, like when freshmen don't play their first year on campus) then he's out of luck.

Ah yes, but you haven't addressed his case. His redshirt year was his freshman year, the year before Old Dominion played their first game. So this is a bit unusual that is particular to start-up programs. I say he gets the 6th year because the first redshirt year was not his decision (other than the fact that he chose to be in the first recruiting class of a start-up program).

For most people who redshirt it is not their decision, but that of the coaches. I'm not sure how him deciding would be a criteria.

Hey, we'll find out when he applies for the medical hardship after his normal eligibility runs out (after the 2012 season). Normally it's 5 years to play 4. There have been plenty of players who have had fully documented, multiple injuries, who have lost 2 or more seasons and they've been denied the 6th year of eligibility, so I just think you're being way too optimistic to think that a guy who clearly had a redshirt year in college (I don't think start-up matters at all - he was in college, and part of a program, on scholarship, for a year) is a good bet to get what is not an easy thing to get in the first place. If he didn't play one of his years due to something other than a medical or family hardship, then I think he's a longshot at best (and I really don't think he has a shot at all). No one forced him to go to ODU and not play that first year.

[Silenoz]

ODU has already claimed their first CAA football victims. Just ask all those CAA recruiting coordinators that have been shut out of the vaunted 757 because of the way ODU is kung-fu gripping all those recruits other programs crave.

I think they'll probably knock off either Rhody or Towson.

For your enjoyment State Line, Percy Harvin's Minnesota Viking Highlights. Of Course Percy is a product of the over exaggerated 757.

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ODU will continue to recruit here in the overly celebrated 757 and hope to see 757 ODU players in the NFL too. In time we will. Maybe we'll see Jonathan Plisco's stunning punting highlights soon.

UF dynasty's best player imo

[∞∞∞]

http://www.odusports.com/sports/m-footb ... 11aaa.html

That's a great interview. Thanks for sharing. Bobby is da man!

(and I like his comments about possible stadium expansion)

GO MONARCHS!

[ChickenMan]

I think ODU has a real shot to win at Delaware in their first league game.. as the Hens will open the year with questions on both sides on the ball. UD's defense will feature a completely new and very inexperienced secondary and unless the Hen's very modest 2010 pass rush is significantly improved this season.. I expect that ODU will have success throwing the ball. As for the UD offense.. no doubt they will try to establish a solid running game in order to take the pressure off a new QB.. but I expect that ODU will load the box and attempt to make UD's new QB beat them in the air. I know a lot of Hen fans have chalked this one up as a win.. I am not nearly that confident.

[ODUalum11]

I think ODU has a real shot to win at Delaware in their first league game.. as the Hens will open the year with questions on both sides on the ball. UD's defense will feature a completely new and very inexperienced secondary and unless the Hen's very modest 2010 pass rush is significantly improved this season.. I expect that ODU will have success throwing the ball. As for the UD offense.. no doubt they will try to establish a solid running game in order to take the pressure off a new QB.. but I expect that ODU will load the box and attempt to make UD's new QB beat them in the air. I know a lot of Hen fans have chalked this one up as a win.. I am not nearly that confident.

You guys might have a young QB but I wouldn't be the least surprised if you guys try to expose our secondary. Out of all the positions on the team (offense, defense, special teams), our secondary is by far our biggest weakness.

[Tribe4SF]

The avatar is fine with me. DJ Mangas caught the pass, and gained good yardage on that play.

Congrats on graduating!

Thanks Tribe!

I'm surprised you knew what play that picture is from. I had no idea, just liked the picture regardless of outcome.

The play was a 22 yard completion to the ODU 22. Deron Jasper on the tackle. That drive ended on first and goal at the 9 when Jimmy Hobson fumbled while going into the endzone. With that fumble, and the three missed field goals, the Tribe left 16 points on the field. A scary night at Foreman!

[DaBigBlue]

Thanks Tribe!

I'm surprised you knew what play that picture is from. I had no idea, just liked the picture regardless of outcome.

The play was a 22 yard completion to the ODU 22. Deron Jasper on the tackle. That drive ended on first and goal at the 9 when Jimmy Hobson fumbled while going into the endzone. With that fumble, and the three missed field goals, the Tribe left 16 points on the field. A scary night at Foreman!

Safe to say both teams left some points on the field, like the W I D E open ODU receiver dropping the long ball and some of the missed WM FGs were caused by the pressure on the ball. I will agree WM left more out there, but kind of like leaving runners on base, it's part of the game. That was a fun night of college football.

[green&gold75]

I wouldn't be so bold as to make a prediction. I just hope that, when the dust settles at the end of the year, we have a CAA victory under our belt.

I think you'll have more than one. But who knows. Hell, JMU could go undefeated in the CAA this year or lose every single game. Such is the beast that is the CAA. Every week is a big week. Every week you are facing a well coached, talented team. It never lets up. I think that will be the key for ODU. How will the players respond after being punched in the neck by a CAA foe and then having to face another the next week. But, don't sell yourselves short. You have a veteran team that will be competitive. Or, you lose your starting quarterback the first game and all goes to hell.

Nice post JMUDuke2002

[Blue Hen Fanatic]

Which CAA team will be the first to fall to the Monarchs? It has to happen at some point...but where and when?

Conference schedule Predicted Results
9/24 at Delaware - UD 40 ODU 20
10/1 UMass - UMass 28 ODU 10
10/8 at URI - URI 20 ODU 17
10/15 Towson - ODU 44 Towson 21
10/22 at Villanova - Nova 27 ODU 14
10/29 James Madison - JMU 17 ODU 7
11/5 Richmond - UR 28 - ODU 20
11/12 at William and Mary - W&M 44 - ODU 17

[ODUalum11]

Which CAA team will be the first to fall to the Monarchs? It has to happen at some point...but where and when?

Conference schedule Predicted Results
9/24 at Delaware - UD 40 ODU 20
10/1 UMass - UMass 28 ODU 10
10/8 at URI - URI 20 ODU 17
10/15 Towson - ODU 44 Towson 21
10/22 at Villanova - Nova 27 ODU 14
10/29 James Madison - JMU 17 ODU 7
11/5 Richmond - UR 28 - ODU 20
11/12 at William and Mary - W&M 44 - ODU 17

are these your own predictions or from a website?

[Dukie95]

The real question should be who will beTownson's first CAA football victim in two years?