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2015?? haha, Bye Bye Big Sky.

Standing Rock has voted NO 6 times, Great Plains Indian Chairman's voted 11-0 against the name. if UND and their followers are that dam stupid to blatently ignore the Native Americans that say no, then they deserve to goto the NAIA and just die.

Im sorry, but if you are in the Big Sky, why arent you calling Doug Fullerton or your presidents and saying " what are you waiting for, drop these guys so we don't have to deal with this FOOOOOOOOOOORRRRRREEEEVERRR"

cuz guess what, it'll never end, bafoon's like darrel, davek, abc, vern, whoever else will keep wearing the SIOUX stuff even if the name is gone and Big Sky will have to deal with that as well.
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This Al Carlson seems like a huge clown.
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lakesbison wrote:then they deserve to goto the NAIA and just die.
Didn't you go to an NAIA school?
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lakesbison wrote:2015?? haha, Bye Bye Big Sky.

Standing Rock has voted NO 6 times, Great Plains Indian Chairman's voted 11-0 against the name. if UND and their followers are that dam stupid to blatently ignore the Native Americans that say no, then they deserve to goto the NAIA and just die.

Im sorry, but if you are in the Big Sky, why arent you calling Doug Fullerton or your presidents and saying " what are you waiting for, drop these guys so we don't have to deal with this FOOOOOOOOOOORRRRRREEEEVERRR"

cuz guess what, it'll never end, bafoon's like darrel, davek, abc, vern, whoever else will keep wearing the SIOUX stuff even if the name is gone and Big Sky will have to deal with that as well.
I thought your sources already mentioned to you that UND was out of the Big Sky, what, 6 months ago. Why would the 2015 change that? :D I kid, lakes.
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The idea of just being The University of North Dakota is a good one. You know damn well that a majority of the fans will continue to wear Sioux gear to games, no matter what the ND legislature or NCAA say. In the fans' minds they will always be the Sioux, so why even try to attach a different name to the university? Leave it a blank slate and let the fans refer to them as they wish.
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Seriously, just put "UND" on the helmets and jerseys and call it a day until all the legal crap gets sorted out. No reason why the politicians need to continue dragging this out while UND's athletics programs are the ones who are going to suffer the most. Seems highly suspect to me that this Carlson clown continues to support this law when it is clear that it's only going to hurt UND in the long run. Suspect to the point where it could almost be construed as an ulterior motive. :twocents:
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EWURanger wrote:Seriously, just put "UND" on the helmets and jerseys and call it a day until all the legal crap gets sorted out. No reason why the politicians need to continue dragging this out while UND's athletics programs are the ones who are going to suffer the most. Seems highly suspect to me that this Carlson clown continues to support this law when it is clear that it's only going to hurt UND in the long run. Suspect to the point where it could almost be construed as an ulterior motive. :twocents:
They already do! Only the hockey team will see a major jersey difference, football has UND on the helmet, basketball has just North Dakota on them so its just hockey that will have Sioux and the logo off, and I think the NCAA will work with UND on the no nickname thing during the cooling off period. If not I think UND and the media will be hearing from the NCAA.

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Meeting jointly with the Senate Education Committee, the House members voted first and unanimously recommended that the bill pass. The Senate committee also endorsed the amended bill unanimously.

That unanimity “is a good sign” that the repeal bill will pass both chambers, said Grant Shaft, president of the State Board of Higher Education.

The amendment, offered by Rep. Stacey Dahl, R-Grand Forks, and revised after discussion with members of the committee, Shaft and other members of the state board, states that “Neither the State Board of Higher Education nor the University of North Dakota may adopt or implement an athletic nickname or corresponding logo before Jan. 1, 2015.”
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The NCAA, the BSC, UND, the offended tribes and the politicians are out of their freaking minds over a completely trivial topic such as a nickname. Change the name or don't change the name but, for Pete's sake, get the hell over it. Few outside of ND care one iota if UND calls themselves the Sioux, the Susies, the Wildcats or the Wildrats. Enough already. :thumbdown:
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henfan wrote:The NCAA, the BSC, UND, the offended tribes and the politicians are out of their freaking minds over a completely trivial topic such as a nickname. Change the name or don't change the name but, for Pete's sake, get the hell over it. Few outside of ND care one iota if UND calls themselves the Sioux, the Susies, the Wildcats or the Wildrats. Enough already. :thumbdown:
Arizona and Kansas State might. :lol:
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well, all the und fans, like hambone should be thanking me for emailing Al carlson and telling him he was a dipshit. lets all agree on that right now.

yea, 4 months ago an ASSOC AD from Montana or Montana St told my source that und is out, they just have to let things play out so the big sky doesnt look like a bad guy.
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lakesbison wrote:well, all the und fans, like hambone should be thanking me for emailing Al carlson and telling him he was a dipshit. lets all agree on that right now.

yea, 4 months ago an ASSOC AD from Montana or Montana St told my source that und is out, they just have to let things play out so the big sky doesnt look like a bad guy.
Agreed he was a dipshit, but can we see your copy of the email Lakes...I and the FCS world would love to read how you stuck it to Al.
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Im meeting him at the PEACOCK in bismarck at 5, ill lety ou know how it goes.
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A couple of my favorite quotes from the nickname forum at the UND board:

"the Nickname-At-All-Costs crowd"
"The anti-nickname episcopacy"
"The nickname armageddon crowd"
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lakesbison wrote:yea, 4 months ago an ASSOC AD from Montana or Montana St told my source that und is out, they just have to let things play out so the big sky doesnt look like a bad guy.
Sounds like a pretty legit source. :roll:
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What year did the NCAA nickname thing start again? Seems like five or more years ago this started.
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The Kicker wrote:What year did the NCAA nickname thing start again? Seems like five or more years ago this started.
The NCAA policy was created in 2005, the NCAA/UND legal settlement was in 2007, UND needed tribal support from two tribes in 2010, and UND was required to have a new nickname in place on Aug.15th 2011.
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Jesus, just let it end, no one in ND even cares anymore let alone outside of it.
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Twentysix wrote:Jesus, just let it end, no one in ND even cares anymore let alone outside of it.
Al Carlson and a couple people on SS cares if UND holds on to the name.
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No one you mentioned qualifies as a human being.
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State Law repeal bill passes state senate!!

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The state Senate voted 39-7 to approve the legislation, sending it to the House, which has been more hostile to dumping the nickname. Rep. RaeAnn Kelsch, R-Mandan, the chairwoman of the House Education Committee, said she believed the measure would win House approval.
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Looks like the native american's are fighting back on siouxsports

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I'm still trying to figure out what has the two NDSU freaks in such a tizzy over this. Other than that, this is just a private beef between UND and the NCAA. What the cr@p did UND do to get them all riled up?

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they've used a nickname that sioux people dont want them to, standing rock voted SIX TIMES No on the approval to use the name.
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And what does that have to do with YOU? Or NDSU?

One could say that you're defaming bison....
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Darell1976 wrote:
Twentysix wrote:Jesus, just let it end, no one in ND even cares anymore let alone outside of it.
Al Carlson and a couple people on SS cares if UND holds on to the name.
I read the "Help from Spirit Lake" thread. There are a couple Grade-A head-in-the-sanders over there. :shock:
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