Rank the Final Four

Mvemjsunpx · Post by **Mvemjsunpx** » Sun Dec 11, 2011 6:18 pm

1. Montana
2. Georgia Southern
3. Sam Houston
4. NDSU

JohnStOnge · Post by **JohnStOnge** » Sun Dec 11, 2011 6:30 pm

USTA game was never in doubt. Full of penalties and oh by the way our starting QB did not play that game. You gave us no shot last week vs MSU either. Ever consider the fact that Stoney Brook was a very solid team? They did take UTEP to overtime. All we have to do is keep winning, may never be enough for some though.
Cant wait to see it play out on Friday. BTW next season we will actually have upperclassmen in the backfield.

If they keep winning that'll be plenty. But you have to look at what the picture was before Saturday. First of all, there was a context in which Southland champions have always exited the playoffs via blowout losses since 2005. McNeese had a team that was about as dominant in the 2007 regular season as Sam Houston was during the 2011 regular season and the Cowboys got blown out at home by Eastern Washington in the first round.

Add that to the fact that Sam Houston was not all that impressive in non conference play until Saturday. Yes, they won all their games. But in their two games against teams from other auto bid leagues they beat the last place team in the MVC by 20-6 and had a last minute one TD win over Stony Brook. Maybe they took UTEP to overtime but they also lost to Brown. I don't think anybody thought of them as a national title contender.

Until this past Saturday it was very reasonable to think of Sam Houston State as overrated by virtue of being a top 4 seed.

AlwaysAGriz · Post by **AlwaysAGriz** » Sun Dec 11, 2011 6:34 pm

To update new posts after my last count; here are the points based on a
1st place vote = 4 points
2nd place vote = 3 points
3rd place vote = 2 points
4th place vote = 1 point
system

1. Montana (94 points)
2. Georgia Southern (74 points)
3. Sam Houston (73 points)
4. NDSU (58 points)

(I will likely just edit this post as more votes accumulate)

Bear · Post by **Bear** » Mon Dec 12, 2011 2:17 am

AlwaysAGriz wrote:To update new posts after my last count; here are the points based on a
1st place vote = 4 points
2nd place vote = 3 points
3rd place vote = 2 points
4th place vote = 1 point
system

1. Montana (94 points)
2. Georgia Southern (74 points)
3. Sam Houston (73 points)
4. NDSU (58 points)

(I will likely just edit this post as more votes accumulate)

These are numbers that don't lie. The cream always rises to the top, and this poll is a shining example of that truth! Thank you so much for taking the time to put this together. Montana vs. GSU would be fantastic (and a clear example of the two best teams playing for the NC). Unfortunately, the bison 18 might have something to say about this...

Gil Dobie · Post by **Gil Dobie** » Mon Dec 12, 2011 4:40 am

It's good to be the underdog

uofmman1122 · Post by **uofmman1122** » Mon Dec 12, 2011 5:06 am

This is really the first time in forever that I have no idea which teams are better than the others. I could honestly see any one of these four teams win the NC.

htownbearkat · Post by **htownbearkat** » Mon Dec 12, 2011 7:24 am

AlwaysAGriz wrote:To update new posts after my last count; here are the points based on a
1st place vote = 4 points
2nd place vote = 3 points
3rd place vote = 2 points
4th place vote = 1 point
system

1. Montana (94 points)
2. Georgia Southern (74 points)
3. Sam Houston (73 points)
4. NDSU (58 points)

(I will likely just edit this post as more votes accumulate)

except for last week when everyone had Sam Houston at 7 or 8. Funny how some of those same people now rank them 1 or 2.

Post by **93henfan** » Mon Dec 12, 2011 8:00 am

uofmman1122 wrote:This is really the first time in forever that I have no idea which teams are better than the others. I could honestly see any one of these four teams win the NC.

You got that shit right.

Cujo · Post by **Cujo** » Mon Dec 12, 2011 3:49 pm

htownbearkat wrote:
except for last week when everyone had Sam Houston at 7 or 8. Funny how some of those same people now rank them 1 or 2.

You beat the amazing choke artists Bozeman State. Not the first and won't be the last.

Bison56 · Post by **Bison56** » Mon Dec 12, 2011 3:54 pm

1. NDSU
2. Georgia Southern
3. Sam Houston
4. Montana

The Kicker · Post by **The Kicker** » Mon Dec 12, 2011 6:37 pm

Played around with http://www.nationalsportsrankings.com" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; for the final 4 teams.

I'll do it 5 times to see how it works out.

#1
SHSU 26 Montana 11
Georgia Southern 42 NDSU 39
Georgia Southern 33 SHSU 27

#2
Montana 28 SHSU 18
NDSU 41 Georgia Southern 36
NDSU 43 Montana 36

#3
SHSU 23 Montana 20
Georgia Southern 31 NDSU 26
Georgia Southern 42 SHSU 36

#4
SHSU 19 Montana 14
NDSU 51 Georgia Southern 48
NDSU 26 SHSU 8

#5
SHSU 25 Montana 22
NDSU 31 Georgia Southern 15
SHSU 27 NDSU 21

Did 10 more and Montana, Georgia Southern and NDSU won 3 titles and SHSU only 1

Fun to play with but far from what will happen I'm sure

Post by **kalm** » Mon Dec 12, 2011 7:11 pm

Funny how Montana hasn't played anyone. If you go through a BSC, MVFC, Southland, or CAA schedule with only one loss you are a quality team who has played plenty of quality opponents.

1) Montana - the most complete team on both sides of the ball

2) NDSU - really good on defense and doesn't make mistakes

3) GSU - really good offense but defense will keep other teams in games

4) SHSU - Still not convinced, but beat the Griz and I will wash down my crow with a cup of shut the hell up.

Post by **Vidav** » Mon Dec 12, 2011 7:53 pm

kalm wrote:Funny how Montana hasn't played anyone. If you go through a BSC, MVFC, Southland, or CAA schedule with only one loss you are a quality team who has played plenty of quality opponents.

1) Montana - the most complete team on both sides of the ball

2) NDSU - really good on defense and doesn't make mistakes

3) GSU - really good offense but defense will keep other teams in games

4) SHSU - Still not convinced, but beat the Griz and I will wash down my crow with a cup of shut the hell up.

Excellent assessment Mr. Kalm.

Post by **kalm** » Mon Dec 12, 2011 8:18 pm

Vidav wrote:
kalm wrote:Funny how Montana hasn't played anyone. If you go through a BSC, MVFC, Southland, or CAA schedule with only one loss you are a quality team who has played plenty of quality opponents.

1) Montana - the most complete team on both sides of the ball

2) NDSU - really good on defense and doesn't make mistakes

3) GSU - really good offense but defense will keep other teams in games

4) SHSU - Still not convinced, but beat the Griz and I will wash down my crow with a cup of shut the hell up.
Excellent assessment Mr. Kalm.

Thanks. Just happened to hear the same crap last year about how we had no quality wins, coming out of a weak BSC conference with two 9-2 teams who hadn't beat anybody.

SuperHornet · Post by **SuperHornet** » Mon Dec 12, 2011 8:42 pm

Mvemjsunpx wrote:1. Montana
2. Georgia Southern
3. Sam Houston
4. NDSU

GrizFanStuckInUtah · Post by **GrizFanStuckInUtah** » Mon Dec 12, 2011 9:12 pm

kalm wrote:
Vidav wrote:
Excellent assessment Mr. Kalm.
Thanks. Just happened to hear the same crap last year about how we had no quality wins, coming out of a weak BSC conference with two 9-2 teams who hadn't beat anybody.

Did you hear about how you didn't have any team speed?

Post by **SeattleGriz** » Mon Dec 12, 2011 9:48 pm

The Kicker wrote:Played around with http://www.nationalsportsrankings.com" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; for the final 4 teams.

Fun to play with but far from what will happen I'm sure

Yeah, when we lost to NDSU because they threw for 389 yards, I too thought it might be a little off.

SuperHornet · Post by **SuperHornet** » Mon Dec 12, 2011 9:58 pm

Montana

GA Southern

SHSU

NDSU

AlwaysAGriz · Post by **AlwaysAGriz** » Tue Dec 13, 2011 12:10 am

Even though there are only two games going on this weekend, it sure as hell is a hard one to pick winners.
All teams that are alive have taken care of business for the most part (SHSU has every step of the way :phat:

) and all have taken care of business when it really mattered.

As a Griz fan, I will always pick my Griz to win these types of games, and as a spectator of the game, without bias, I would likely still pick the Griz based off of they way they have rolled in the playoffs thus far.

NDSU/GSU is a dandy... both very good programs, both are playing very good ball. I'd probably flip a coin at this point simply because I'm not going to sit here and act like I've studied both teams' strengths and weaknesses. I would however hope the coin is weighted towards NDSU because that Fabulous fargodome gives a tremendous homefield advantage that no other team in this division would know anything about.

GRIZ MOBSTER · Post by **GRIZ MOBSTER** » Tue Dec 13, 2011 12:14 am

SunCoastBlueHen wrote:Tough to rank, but I do think the four best teams are left standing.

This. It's just to hard to call this year all these teams are so good and playing great football.

SeawolvesFan90 · Post by **SeawolvesFan90** » Tue Dec 13, 2011 12:40 am

SHSU
NDSU
GSU
Montana

shaunpolardd · Post by **shaunpolardd** » Tue Dec 13, 2011 12:08 pm

The seeds have already agreed to do a very good opinion of this year. The last 4, I look forward to seeing a great crop. Especially looking forward to next week, NDSU / GSU game. I think the best defense will play the rest of the best that one the rest of the offense.

Post by **Silenoz** » Tue Dec 13, 2011 2:37 pm

shaunpolardd wrote:The seeds have already agreed to do a very good opinion of this year. The last 4, I look forward to seeing a great crop. Especially looking forward to next week, NDSU / GSU game. I think the best defense will play the rest of the best that one the rest of the offense.

This

Bronco · Post by **Bronco** » Tue Dec 13, 2011 3:25 pm

I only need to rank two

NDSU
Montana

Bear · Post by **Bear** » Tue Dec 13, 2011 4:14 pm

shaunpolardd wrote:The seeds have already agreed to do a very good opinion of this year. The last 4, I look forward to seeing a great crop. Especially looking forward to next week, NDSU / GSU game. I think the best defense will play the rest of the best that one the rest of the offense.

This hurts, but...POTW!

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