Just imagine if the So-Con got the same deal. Their 5 nationally televised games would be:
Citadel @ ASU
Elon @ ASU
Wofford @ ASU
ASU @ GSU
Furman @ ASU
It would be like the App State network....
JMU Football:
4 Years FBS: 40-11 (.784). Highest winning percentage & least losses of all of G5 2022-2025.
Sun Belt East Champions: 2022, 2023, 2025
Sun Belt Champions: 2025
Top 25 ranked: 2022, 2023, 2025
CFP: 2025
Jeff, nobody is saying that Maine shouldn't or won't get a home televised game, we are just saying that we are not going to place any bets on it happening based on the way we think the league and NBC rolls.
CAA Flagship wrote:Jeff, nobody is saying that Maine shouldn't or won't get a home televised game, we are just saying that we are not going to place any bets on it happening based on the way we think the league and NBC rolls.
No, that's not right - I said they shouldn't televise a game there & stand by my comment.
CAA Flagship wrote:Jeff, nobody is saying that Maine shouldn't or won't get a home televised game
Don't speak for everyone. Maine, UNH, nor VU should get home games. I don't care how competitive the games are. There are extremely competitive high school games around here that I have zero interest in seeing. A small metal bleacher stadium with a track around the field or in the case of VU a half empty stadium does NOT look good on TV. The CAA should not televise them.
Make that two "f*ck no's" and the rest as "don't bet on it".
Now you've gone to the extreme and make is sound as if it's personal. I have nothing against any of those three, but the fact remains that their facilities are subpar and don't look good on TV.
UD - needs upgrades, but is a big stadium that is full
UR - new pretty stadium
W&M - pretty stadium, good sized, some upgrades done
JMU - goes without saying
ODU - big stadium with new endzone structure
TU - redone very nice stadium
89Hen wrote:
Now you've gone to the extreme and make is sound as if it's personal. I have nothing against any of those three, but the fact remains that their facilities are subpar and don't look good on TV.
I'm just holding out on the theory that 20,000+ UD, JMU, or ODU fans sitting at home will tune in to a game at one of those "stadiums". That would be 15,000+ more viewers than if it were reversed. Not sure how the TV execs view this scenario.
They can, if they had to, limit the camera angles as much as possible to avoid the blight. Most of the game would be something like this anyway:
If the CAA & NBC Sports execs want to do it right they should look at three things:
-They want to televise a football game between two good & entertaining teams so when the viewer sitting in his recliner does switch the game on he doesn't switch it to the next channel
-They want to select teams that might have some kind of name recognition so national viewers will switch the game on in the first place
-They want to televise games that "look good" on TV. If nobody is there or it looks like a HS stadium the neutral viewer would be less likely to watch
BDKJMU wrote:I would say no games @ Maine, @ UR, or @ UNH- don't think they're going to want to put 8,700 UR stadium or 8,000 Cowell, on national TV-esp Cowell. I wouldn't necessarily say no game @ Nova (who will be significantly improved (20 starters + 2 from 2010 back), has a 12.5k stadium, and has been pointed out, is the biggest national name.
I would put a home UR game on before I'd put a home VU game on. UR's stadium looks every bit as good as Zable and Unitas even though it holds fewer.
Nova would get a home game long before UR did for the simple name recognition.
JMU Football:
4 Years FBS: 40-11 (.784). Highest winning percentage & least losses of all of G5 2022-2025.
Sun Belt East Champions: 2022, 2023, 2025
Sun Belt Champions: 2025
Top 25 ranked: 2022, 2023, 2025
CFP: 2025
89Hen wrote:
What's your best guess for the five hosts for 2012?
Me, I'll go UD, JMU, ODU as locks, and two of W&M, UNH, VU, Towson or VU.
If they are going to have 5 different hosts, then I would go with:
JMU, UD, ODU and 2 of the following: Nova, W&M, Towson, or GST (since its an NFL stadium)
So I am in agreement except for I would put GST in instead of UNH. Don't see UNH hosting one at all. Would look worse on TV than a 3/4 empty NFL stadium.
JMU Football:
4 Years FBS: 40-11 (.784). Highest winning percentage & least losses of all of G5 2022-2025.
Sun Belt East Champions: 2022, 2023, 2025
Sun Belt Champions: 2025
Top 25 ranked: 2022, 2023, 2025
CFP: 2025
CAA Flagship wrote:I'm just holding out on the theory that 20,000+ UD, JMU, or ODU fans sitting at home will tune in to a game at one of those "stadiums". That would be 15,000+ more viewers than if it were reversed. Not sure how the TV execs view this scenario.
I can only guess, but I'd think they're going for more than 15,000 more viewers.
BDKJMU wrote:Nova would get a home game long before UR did for the simple name recognition.
No. You're mixing Nova playing vs getting a home game.
No, Nova would get a HOME game before UR did because of national name recognition.
I see about zero chance UR gets a home game. I see a slim chance Nova gets one.
JMU Football:
4 Years FBS: 40-11 (.784). Highest winning percentage & least losses of all of G5 2022-2025.
Sun Belt East Champions: 2022, 2023, 2025
Sun Belt Champions: 2025
Top 25 ranked: 2022, 2023, 2025
CFP: 2025
89Hen wrote:
No. You're mixing Nova playing vs getting a home game.
No, Nova would get a HOME game before UR did because of national name recognition.
I see about zero chance UR gets a home game. I see a slim chance Nova gets one.
That makes no sense. VILLANOVA at Delaware is really different than Maine at VILLANOVA? The name is still there. When people tuned in and saw Villanova's stadium and crowd (or lack there of) they'd immediately realize this aint Big East basketball.
CAA Flagship wrote:Jeff, nobody is saying that Maine shouldn't or won't get a home televised game
Don't speak for everyone. Maine, UNH, nor VU should get home games. I don't care how competitive the games are. There are extremely competitive high school games around here that I have zero interest in seeing. A small metal bleacher stadium with a track around the field or in the case of VU a half empty stadium does NOT look good on TV. The CAA should not televise them.
Any one of those as a road team is fine.
Through the eyes of a provincial Blue Hen fan..........yeah.
89Hen wrote:
Now you've gone to the extreme and make is sound as if it's personal. I have nothing against any of those three, but the fact remains that their facilities are subpar and don't look good on TV.
I'm just holding out on the theory that 20,000+ UD, JMU, or ODU fans sitting at home will tune in to a game at one of those "stadiums". That would be 15,000+ more viewers than if it were reversed. Not sure how the TV execs view this scenario.
They can, if they had to, limit the camera angles as much as possible to avoid the blight. Most of the game would be something like this anyway:
There's 1.2 million people in Maine and one D-1 football program. I'm pretty sure more than 5,000 people would be watching.
bluehenbillk wrote:-They want to televise games that "look good" on TV. If nobody is there or it looks like a HS stadium the neutral viewer would be less likely to watch
Seriously??? I guess that they aren't tuning in to see a football game then. European soccer has great crowds........you can always watch them!
mainejeff wrote:Do you morons really watch football games to see how big the crowd is????
No, but we're watching any CAA game on TV regardless of location, crowd, etc... The point was making the CAA look good to non-CAA (and non I-AA) fans. A point that is always lost on you because you are one of the biggest homers around. BTW, whatever happened to umassfan? He was perhaps the only one that had you beat in the CAA.
I have no vested interest in JMU over Maine. Why do you always want to try to make it as if it's personal?
bluehenbillk wrote:-They want to televise games that "look good" on TV. If nobody is there or it looks like a HS stadium the neutral viewer would be less likely to watch
Seriously??? I guess that they aren't tuning in to see a football game then. European soccer has great crowds........you can always watch them!
MJ- this is a sports board, please don't go off topic with soccer....
Question to all: What is better?
A. - 8,000 fans with no empty seats
B. - 20,000 fans with 5,000 empty seats.
I hate seeing those empty bleachers at MAC games. I think I flip away from those games thinking more about the empty seats than I do about the size of the crowd.