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[Bluehen95]

Oh, I still think SHSU will win, but the game of the tournament will be in December instead of January......THe conference was not great but they destroyed their entire schedule by a large margin. THey should be higher.

SHSU's strength of schedule was HORRENDOUS. The Southland sucked this year, and SHSU played a couple of cupcakes OOC, including a Div II. See the above post. Even weaker than StFU out of the NEC. Only stronger than the affirmative action MEAC pick NC A&T & the non scholly Pioneer champ San Diego. You could 11-0 & be the best team in the nation but if you play a pathetic schedule you're not going to going to be seeded above 10-1 teams playing way stronger schedules..SHSU was lucky they weren't even dropped behind the Citadel to the #6 seed. Citadel had a much stronger SOS and was 3-0 vs playoff teams..

The SHSU AD should be fired for OOC scheduling a Div II along with no I-A game.

going back to UD, Keelers philosophy has always been no 1-A in an 11 game year. He prefers to add a home game in those seasons. In a 12 game year he wants a 1-A game. So I would guess that is what went on here. I am not too familiar with the texas area, but how many high quality FCS programs are around there for OOC scheculing outside the southland conference?

[Gil Dobie]

SHSU's strength of schedule was HORRENDOUS. The Southland sucked this year, and SHSU played a couple of cupcakes OOC, including a Div II. See the above post. Even weaker than StFU out of the NEC. Only stronger than the affirmative action MEAC pick NC A&T & the non scholly Pioneer champ San Diego. You could 11-0 & be the best team in the nation but if you play a pathetic schedule you're not going to going to be seeded above 10-1 teams playing way stronger schedules..SHSU was lucky they weren't even dropped behind the Citadel to the #6 seed. Citadel had a much stronger SOS and was 3-0 vs playoff teams..

The SHSU AD should be fired for OOC scheduling a Div II along with no I-A game.

going back to UD, Keelers philosophy has always been no 1-A in an 11 game year. He prefers to add a home game in those seasons. In a 12 game year he wants a 1-A game. So I would guess that is what went on here. I am not too familiar with the texas area, but how many high quality FCS programs are around there for OOC scheculing outside the southland conference?

NDSU used to play OOC with the Southland. This year it was EWU, Iowa and Chuck South, as Iowa was the only one that was near North Dakota. UND played Bowling Green and Stony Brook. No reason Sam Houston can't schedule outside of Texas.

[bluehenbillk]

SHSU had a game scheduled with FBS New Mexico for this season & New Mexico backed out.

[kalm]

SHSU had a game scheduled with FBS New Mexico for this season & New Mexico backed out.

Yep. That wasn't Sam's fault and they had to fill it. But at least one of the OCC's was a choice. Not saying it was the wrong choice but they don't deserve a pass for it or their weak conference when comparing resumes.

[JohnStOnge]

I think Sam Houston blew out a pretty good team in Central Arkansas. Central Arkansas did lose to Samford but they really dominated the game. As posted before they had 36 first downs to Samford's 11, 231 rushing yards to Samford's -21, and 577 total yards to Samford's 257. They turned the ball over 3 times and 2 of them resulted in defensive scores for Samford.

And they did beat a team, Arkansas State, that is in good position to win the Sun Belt right now at 6-0 in conference play with games at 4-7 Louisiana Lafayette and 2-8 Texas State remaining. Yeah it's the Sun Belt but I'd say the Sun Belt is equivalent to a strong FCS league.

Anyway I think there's an asterisk by Sam Houston's blowout of Central Arkansas because they had that +5 advantage in the giveaway/takeaway stat. But it's still true that they blew out a decent opponent.

[JohnStOnge]

Oh, I still think SHSU will win, but the game of the tournament will be in December instead of January......THe conference was not great but they destroyed their entire schedule by a large margin. THey should be higher.

Well I will say that as McNeese fan I know McNeese had some serious issues this year and Sam Houston State let them get back in the game after going out to a 28-3 lead. McNeese was able to draw to within 6 at 49-43 with 6:57 left. And that was possible because Sam Houston State's defense gave up 28 first downs and 574 yards including 217 rushing yards at 6.6 yards per carry.

Sam Houston did come right back to put the game away and bring the final score to 56-43 on its next possession. But I do think the team has a serious weakness in its defense.

[BDKJMU]

I can see Richmond going down with all of their injuries.

Lehigh can beat a paper tiger UNH.

Villanova can won on the road at SDSU.

Keeler will have his team frothing at the mouth & always plays up in the postseason - the semi with them in Fargo is the defacto NCIMO.

You are:
-Assuming SHSU as a favorite beats (their likely round of 16 opponent) UTC. UTC raised some eyebrows with their performance vs Bama. They will be the best team SHSU has faced all season, probably by far.
-Assuming NDSU as a heavy favorite beats Cal Poly (easy assumption)
-Assuming NDSU as a favorite wins their quarterfinal game vs the winner of VU/SDSU (remember SDSU already beat NDSU in the dome)
-Assuming SHSU wins their quarterfinal game (likely @ JMU) Who would be favored there will likely depend on the status of Schor.
-Then assuming the winner of NDSU/SHSU wins the NC game..

That's a whole lot of assuming..and you know what they say about assumptions..

[BDKJMU]

Playoff history says the semis won't be
JMU/SHSU winner @ NDSU
JSU @ EWU.

On the playoff history here it only lists the seeds back to 09. I remember the top 4 from 08'. Semifinal history in terms of non seeded teams making the semis:
08' 1 non seed
09' 2 non seeds
10' 2 non seeds (went from 4 to 5 seeded teams that season)
11' Semis was the Top 4 seeds
12' 1 non seed
13' 2 non seeds
14' 1 non top 5 seed (went to 8 seeds tbat season)
15' 2 non top 5 seeds

Odds are there will be 1-2 non top 5 seeds making the semis..

[dal4018]

I didn't know the teams in the MEAC didn't have a choice to forego the auto bid.

The schools obviously did, but I don't know about the teams.

How could the teams within the conference not know???

[dal4018]

going back to UD, Keelers philosophy has always been no 1-A in an 11 game year. He prefers to add a home game in those seasons. In a 12 game year he wants a 1-A game. So I would guess that is what went on here. I am not too familiar with the texas area, but how many high quality FCS programs are around there for OOC scheculing outside the southland conference?

NDSU used to play OOC with the Southland. This year it was EWU, Iowa and Chuck South, as Iowa was the only one that was near North Dakota. UND played Bowling Green and Stony Brook. No reason Sam Houston can't schedule outside of Texas.

Will the Bison go for title no.6!!!!

[dal4018]

I am shocked. The NCAA blew this one. If you don't send your champion, you don't get a spot at the table. HUGE mistake.

NCA&T has Tarik Cohen, the number two rusher in FCS, and the committee matched them up against a team with QB issues and who just gave up 219 yards to one RB on Saturday. Maybe it is the plan to get the MEAC a playoff win in the hopes that other MEAC teams will push to abandon the Celebration bowl.

This will be an audition for A&T WR Denzel Keys as well he at 6-4 210 has the size to play on sunday!!!!

[dal4018]

Oh, I still think SHSU will win, but the game of the tournament will be in December instead of January......THe conference was not great but they destroyed their entire schedule by a large margin. THey should be higher.

SHSU's strength of schedule was HORRENDOUS. The Southland sucked this year, and SHSU played a couple of cupcakes OOC, including a Div II. See the above post. Even weaker than StFU out of the NEC. Only stronger than the affirmative action MEAC pick NC A&T & the non scholly Pioneer champ San Diego. You could 11-0 & be the best team in the nation but if you play a pathetic schedule you're not going to going to be seeded above 10-1 teams playing way stronger schedules..SHSU was lucky they weren't even dropped behind the Citadel to the #6 seed. Citadel had a much stronger SOS and was 3-0 vs playoff teams..

The SHSU AD should be fired for OOC scheduling a Div II along with no I-A game.

Affirmative Action SMH!!!!!!

[Mvemjsunpx]

The schools obviously did, but I don't know about the teams.

How could the teams within the conference not know???

I meant that the football teams themselves probably didn't have much choice in the MEAC ditching the auto-bid.

[Gil Dobie]

NDSU used to play OOC with the Southland. This year it was EWU, Iowa and Chuck South, as Iowa was the only one that was near North Dakota. UND played Bowling Green and Stony Brook. No reason Sam Houston can't schedule outside of Texas.

Will the Bison go for title no.6!!!!

Hard to say Dal. Some tough opponents in way, with possible games with Cal Poly, SDSU rematch and maybe SAM, and Jacksonville St or EWU in Frisco.

[89Hen]

SHSU's strength of schedule was HORRENDOUS. The Southland sucked this year, and SHSU played a couple of cupcakes OOC, including a Div II. See the above post. Even weaker than StFU out of the NEC. Only stronger than the affirmative action MEAC pick NC A&T & the non scholly Pioneer champ San Diego. You could 11-0 & be the best team in the nation but if you play a pathetic schedule you're not going to going to be seeded above 10-1 teams playing way stronger schedules..SHSU was lucky they weren't even dropped behind the Citadel to the #6 seed. Citadel had a much stronger SOS and was 3-0 vs playoff teams..

The SHSU AD should be fired for OOC scheduling a Div II along with no I-A game.

Affirmative Action SMH!!!!!!

Hate to say it dal, but it sure smells of that.

[89Hen]

How could the teams within the conference not know???

I meant that the football teams themselves probably didn't have much choice in the MEAC ditching the auto-bid.

The difference is semantics. The schools made this decision. The teams play for the schools. You can't separate the two.

[Aho Old Guy]

I welcome Coach Broadway and the Aggies to the playoffs. Squish the Bugs. Go 'Dogs.

And, LOL at the 4/5 seeds. Either has a legitimate gripe for a 2/3. The Committee 'schlonged that one.

[kalm]

I meant that the football teams themselves probably didn't have much choice in the MEAC ditching the auto-bid.

The difference is semantics. The schools made this decision. The teams play for the schools. You can't separate the two.

Yup. A&T was one of the three schools who voted against the celebration bowl too, but they still choose to remain in that conference. I'm guessing the BS would love to have them.

[kalm]

I meant that the football teams themselves probably didn't have much choice in the MEAC ditching the auto-bid.

The difference is semantics. The schools made this decision. The teams play for the schools. You can't separate the two.

Yup. A&T was one of the three schools who voted against the celebration bowl too, but they still choose to remain in that conference. I'm guessing the BS would love to have them.

[BDKJMU]

Will the Bison go for title no.6!!!!

Hard to say Dal. Some tough opponents in way, with possible games with Cal Poly, SDSU rematch and maybe SAM, and Jacksonville St or EWU in Frisco.

or maybe JMU..

[Gil Dobie]

Hard to say Dal. Some tough opponents in way, with possible games with Cal Poly, SDSU rematch and maybe SAM, and Jacksonville St or EWU in Frisco.

or maybe JMU..

True, JMU has the team that could do it.

[dal4018]

I meant that the football teams themselves probably didn't have much choice in the MEAC ditching the auto-bid.

The difference is semantics. The schools made this decision. The teams play for the schools. You can't separate the two.

Okay point taken yes you can't separate the two.

[dal4018]

or maybe JMU..

True, JMU has the team that could do it.

I think Sam Houston could finally knock NDSU from its perch and a longshot how about Eastern Washington???

[dal4018]

The difference is semantics. The schools made this decision. The teams play for the schools. You can't separate the two.

Yup. A&T was one of the three schools who voted against the celebration bowl too, but they still choose to remain in that conference. I'm guessing the BS would love to have them.

Yes they would have.Wonder who were the other two????

[dal4018]

Affirmative Action SMH!!!!!!

Hate to say it dal, but it sure smells of that.

We will see this saturday????