I never said UNC is competing at this level. But Suc State ain't either and you've been FCS a lot longer than we have.Green Cookie Monster wrote:Until you beat Sac State if we can't compete you don't exist.BigSkyBears wrote:Granted the WAC is going to suck big time now that BSU is out, but Sac State can' compete at the FCS level, what makes them think they'll win at the FBS level?
UT, Tech, A&M, Houston and UNT all have their own systems. TXST is part of the TSUS...that has no flagship (so they saydbackjon wrote:Different set up in Texas, IIRC - UT system and A&M system have total different regents.Grizalltheway wrote:
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If you ask JBB he would consider us "officially in the discussion" now...clenz wrote:Now apparently some douchefuck threw UNI out there as a candidate for the WAC. I would like to find that guy and kick him square in the balls for saying something that fucking stupid.
From a football standpoint = dumb
basketball standpoint = uber dumb
travel costs standpoint = uber dumb
Wow.guinzone wrote:This Blog seems to think Montana is moving up to the WAC:
http://www.spokesman.com/blogs/hbo/2010 ... state-wac/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
That guy is an idiot.Posted by DFO
A10 is pretty fuckin good and has been for even longer than the MVC. MVC is solid.clenz wrote:Looking past just football I can see why moving to the WAC makes sense for some of the schools out West. The "prestige" of the WAC in other sports is higher than it is in the Big Sky or the GWC.
However, for an MVC school to jump for the WAC would be DUMB. The MVC has more national respect in basketball than any other conference outside of the the BCS conferences. The MWC and 10 are the only other conferences that are in the same league as the MVC in terms of basketball. The MWC hasn't been there much as of late, but getting 4 teams in the NCAA's this past season helped them out a lot.
For UNI, SIU, ISUR, or really any of the other MVFC AND MVC members to move conferences I would think it would have to be a "big name" conference, and none of them are looking FCS.
MWC taking the Big 5 seems unlikely from everything I've read.slycat wrote:The WAC is currently sitting at 8 teams.
I think the big question now is how many teams do they want to add and how quickly do they want to add them.
Of course a lot will rely on what happens to the Big 12. But assuming the Big 12 falls apart and MWC sucks in Mizzou, KState, and Kansas, that would put MWC at 13. They would probably look at adding either Iowa St or Fresno St, since Baylor won't get in due to TCU.
Baylor would probably swing to CUSA which would take the spot that LA Tech is looking for.
WAC won't want to disappear as a conference and show its members that they are doing everything they can to stay as strong as possible. This would be tough to do by adding a mix of FCS schools. However, the WAC doesn't have much of any other option.
I would think one of the following scenarios is most likely.
Conference goes to 12 and gives strong foothold in Texas with travel partners
Add:
Texas St
UTSA (They will want to hold out for CUSA though)
UNT (Same as UTSA and have rejected WAc before)
random pick of western school
Conference stays west:
Montana
UC-Davis
Sac St
Cal Poly
or other west school
Add who is available
Texas St
Montana
Sac St
UC-Davis
Its just a matter when offers will go out. I think they will wait until more dust has settled from the realignment so they can see all their options. Its not like the FCS schools are hot targets that will get snatched up overnight. But they also have to keep the current members happy. Tough line to walk.
I would've thought that Texas St. would join the big 14CatMom wrote:UT, Tech, A&M, Houston and UNT all have their own systems. TXST is part of the TSUS...that has no flagship (so they saydbackjon wrote:
Different set up in Texas, IIRC - UT system and A&M system have total different regents.
Some rumors..yes just message board rumors but still....are starting to float around that the MVC may end up adding some schools from the A10 and Big East depending what happens with the Big East. One post I've saw is from a guy on PantherNation who is pretty knowledgeable about how things work and what not is the following quote. It deals with Iowa State some too due to the entire discussion of the thread.Fresno St. Alum wrote:A10 is pretty fuckin good and has been for even longer than the MVC. MVC is solid.clenz wrote:Looking past just football I can see why moving to the WAC makes sense for some of the schools out West. The "prestige" of the WAC in other sports is higher than it is in the Big Sky or the GWC.
However, for an MVC school to jump for the WAC would be DUMB. The MVC has more national respect in basketball than any other conference outside of the the BCS conferences. The MWC and 10 are the only other conferences that are in the same league as the MVC in terms of basketball. The MWC hasn't been there much as of late, but getting 4 teams in the NCAA's this past season helped them out a lot.
For UNI, SIU, ISUR, or really any of the other MVFC AND MVC members to move conferences I would think it would have to be a "big name" conference, and none of them are looking FCS.
IMO, one of the best win-win scenarios for UNI and Iowa State in this whole ordeal (and I don't really foresee it happening) is if ISU/KU/K-State/Mizzou joined the Big East for all sports, and the MVC were to get DePaul and Marquette from the Big East and Dayton/Xavier/SLU/Butler (any 2 combination of the 4) to get to 14 teams. This would add the Chicago and Milwaukee markets. This won't happen, but it would be interesting to see. This would allow the Big East to be more football based, while keeping it's strong basketball tradition. DePaul hasn't been much of a basketball threat since Quentin Richardson left for the NBA, and Marquette has been solid, but not dominant. The MVC would then look like this:
East:
Dayton/Xavier/Butler/SLU (any 2 combination of the 4---if SLU were to join, they would go west, Bradley east)
Indiana State
Evansville
Marquette
DePaul
Illinois State
West:
SIU
Bradley
UNI
Missouri State
Drake
Creighton
Wichita State
Fun to think about. Conf tourney in Chicago, STL, KC rotating
Nice name drop and dig after acknowledging the fact that UNC hasn't beaten Sac State in football yet.BigSkyBears wrote:I never said UNC is competing at this level. But Suc State ain't either and you've been FCS a lot longer than we have.Green Cookie Monster wrote:
Until you beat Sac State if we can't compete you don't exist.
BTW, I'd like that fluke hail-marry you beat us with back.
I have yet to see SH burn anyone on these boards as badly as he just did you...hilarious. 
My bad. I'm still trying to sober up from the USA-England game before I head to Petco for the Padre-Mariners game. This glass of Makers on the rocks sure ain't helpin'...SuperHornet wrote:Uh, SD, that was GCM, not me....
Who the hell is SH? Look frat boy don't you have a Justin Bieber album to listen to?SDHornet wrote:Nice name drop and dig after acknowledging the fact that UNC hasn't beaten Sac State in football yet.BigSkyBears wrote:
I never said UNC is competing at this level. But Suc State ain't either and you've been FCS a lot longer than we have.
BTW, I'd like that fluke hail-marry you beat us with back.
But you don't see Bears fans on here braying about moving to the WAC. THAT'S the difference....SDHornet wrote:Nice name drop and dig after acknowledging the fact that UNC hasn't beaten Sac State in football yet.BigSkyBears wrote:
I never said UNC is competing at this level. But Suc State ain't either and you've been FCS a lot longer than we have.
BTW, I'd like that fluke hail-marry you beat us with back.
So who else has SacSt beaten? 52-104 in 14 years in the weakened BSC and 0-14 against Montana. The WAC has to be savoring over this opportunity.... Maybe it's SacSt Bball that would be the attraction....SDHornet wrote:Nice name drop and dig after acknowledging the fact that UNC hasn't beaten Sac State in football yet.BigSkyBears wrote:
I never said UNC is competing at this level. But Suc State ain't either and you've been FCS a lot longer than we have.
BTW, I'd like that fluke hail-marry you beat us with back.
boys have a penis girls have a vagina 
I wasn't in a frat nor do I like little boys. Nice try.BigSkyBears wrote:Who the hell is SH? Look frat boy don't you have a Justin Bieber album to listen to?SDHornet wrote: Nice name drop and dig after acknowledging the fact that UNC hasn't beaten Sac State in football yet.
It's because UNC isn't one of the 5 or 6 FCS schools the WAC is considering for an invitation.AZGrizFan wrote:But you don't see Bears fans on here braying about moving to the WAC. THAT'S the difference....SDHornet wrote: Nice name drop and dig after acknowledging the fact that UNC hasn't beaten Sac State in football yet.
Again, winning isn't a prerequisite for a move to FBS. If that were the case nowhere near as many schools who have moved up in the past would have. Hell there are even a few teams who don't even field a team right now being considered as a possible FBS candidate for the WAC.kemajic wrote:So who else has SacSt beaten? 52-104 in 14 years in the weakened BSC and 0-14 against Montana. The WAC has to be savoring over this opportunity.... Maybe it's SacSt Bball that would be the attraction....SDHornet wrote: Nice name drop and dig after acknowledging the fact that UNC hasn't beaten Sac State in football yet.
I'm not saying I think those schools will jump for the MVC, but it would be nice to get some movement in the MVC for all sports except football.Fresno St. Alum wrote:Clenz, that conf. posted won't happen, the A10 School, not schools that is considering the MVC is St.Louis. They SHOULD join. Majarus was bitching about the travel in the A10. The BE schools no matter how sucky would never take a pay cut and less tv to join the MVC. Dayton, Xavier, St.Louis are hoping the BE splits so they can get the invite. Richmond, Duquesne, UMass could also be targets for the split BE if they go to 12.
yes you do. If not, quit acting like it.SDHornet wrote:I wasn't in a frat nor do I like little boys. Nice try.BigSkyBears wrote:
Who the hell is SH? Look frat boy don't you have a Justin Bieber album to listen to?
