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collegesportsinfo wrote:Completely defeats the purpose if you're talking about Charlotte. They want to eventually be FBS, the CAA is FCS. So why switch conferences only to leave 4-5 years later? Alternatively, you just sit back where you're at, no harm no foul, and then get ready for FBS. It's not like Charlotte being in the CAA would be any type of help in the FBS pursuit. Reality is that the schools they are associated with now in the A10 are at least in higher conference discussions, albeit longshots: Temple had prelim talks with CUSA and if Big East football split (seemingly an extreme longshot now) you have Xavier, St. Louis, Richmond and Dayton considered the top candidates to team with Big East non-football schools. There just isn't anything at all for Charlotte to leverage a CAA all-sports membership into for their FBS plans.
No one knows if Charlotte wants to be an FBS member; message board banter doesn't matter. Their administration has been exactly like Georgia State's during this whole process...no information if FCS is what they want or if the FBS is the final goal (and when I say final goal, I mean in <10 years, not 20+ years down the line). Only recently did GSU say they are committed to the CAA and the FCS. UTSA said FBS, ODU said FCS, but no one knows what the hell Charlotte wants to do. Anyways, I'm ok with them being a CAA member for 4-5 years but yes, that wouldn't make sense for them which is what ultimately matters.
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Fresno St. Alum wrote:
89Hen wrote: If Richmond were still in the CAA and the offer from the A10 came today, I'm not sure they leave.
Homer talk. I am sure. I'm not defending Charlotte or any other A10 school. just stating the conf ladder "rules". I don't have a dog in the fight and I follow conf. movement.

Not sure if ODU or VCU would leave. And mid-major confernce rankings are fluid. A-10 may historically better, but the CAA is catching up and may well pass them.














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collegesportsinfo wrote:Completely defeats the purpose if you're talking about Charlotte. They want to eventually be FBS, the CAA is FCS. So why switch conferences only to leave 4-5 years later? Alternatively, you just sit back where you're at, no harm no foul, and then get ready for FBS. It's not like Charlotte being in the CAA would be any type of help in the FBS pursuit. Reality is that the schools they are associated with now in the A10 are at least in higher conference discussions, albeit longshots: Temple had prelim talks with CUSA and if Big East football split (seemingly an extreme longshot now) you have Xavier, St. Louis, Richmond and Dayton considered the top candidates to team with Big East non-football schools. There just isn't anything at all for Charlotte to leverage a CAA all-sports membership into for their FBS plans.
No one knows if Charlotte wants to be an FBS member; message board banter doesn't matter. Their administration has been exactly like Georgia State's during this whole process...no information if FCS is what they want or if the FBS is the final goal (and when I say final goal, I mean in <10 years, not 20+ years down the line). Only recently did GSU say they are committed to the CAA and the FCS. UTSA said FBS, ODU said FCS, but no one knows what the hell Charlotte wants to do. Anyways, I'm ok with them being a CAA member for 4-5 years but yes, that wouldn't make sense for them which is what ultimately matters.
Why would Charlotte say anything other than they want to be FCS. As long as they don't have a conf. invite from a FBS conf. they can't go anyway. No reason to piss off an FCS conf. that might offer you fb only membership if you say we want to be FBS w/o a home. UTSA has a FBS home GA St. doesn't
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Fresno St. Alum wrote:
89Hen wrote: If Richmond were still in the CAA and the offer from the A10 came today, I'm not sure they leave.
Homer talk. I am sure. I'm not defending Charlotte or any other A10 school. just stating the conf ladder "rules"
Opinion talk. The A10 is not the ACC. It's not the Big East. It's not the C-USA. The A10 doesn't have football. It's big draw is basketball. Such a gap. :lol: :roll:

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dbackjon wrote:
Fresno St. Alum wrote: Homer talk. I am sure. I'm not defending Charlotte or any other A10 school. just stating the conf ladder "rules". I don't have a dog in the fight and I follow conf. movement.

Not sure if ODU or VCU would leave. And mid-major confernce rankings are fluid. A-10 may historically better, but the CAA is catching up and may well pass them.














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CAA has been better than A10 for 5 years now. It doesn't matter since the A10 has the "prestige" factor. I don't know what else to tell you other than they'd go. Even VCU. Butler would leave the Horizon for A10 or MVC invite too if it ever came. WAC and MWC were equal yet every WAC member would rather be in the MWC.
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89Hen wrote:
Fresno St. Alum wrote: Homer talk. I am sure. I'm not defending Charlotte or any other A10 school. just stating the conf ladder "rules"
Opinion talk. The A10 is not the ACC. It's not the Big East. It's not the C-USA. The A10 doesn't have football. It's big draw is basketball. Such a gap. :lol: :roll:

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9 ATLANTIC 10 = 75.29
10 COLONIAL = 74.92

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10 Colonial Athletic
Go back to school if you think the A10 only care about basketball. A10 has the "prestige" whether it's real or invented. Just like the Patriot is the Almost Ivy. They're not worried about their RPI. They're in the PL for other reasons.
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dbackjon wrote:Not sure if ODU or VCU would leave. And mid-major confernce rankings are fluid. A-10 may historically better, but the CAA is catching up and may well pass them.

(good lord, can't beleive I am defending the CAA)...
:lol: Appreciate the love, but don't be embarrassed. You are correct. Xavier is currently the best program in either conference. Beyond that, :coffee: .
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Fresno St. Alum wrote:Go back to school if you think the A10 only care about basketball. A10 has the "prestige" whether it's real or invited. Just like the Patriot is the Almost Ivy.
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Fresno St. Alum wrote:
dbackjon wrote:

Not sure if ODU or VCU would leave. And mid-major confernce rankings are fluid. A-10 may historically better, but the CAA is catching up and may well pass them.














(good lord, can't beleive I am defending the CAA)...
CAA has been better than A10 for 5 years now. It doesn't matter since the A10 has the "prestige" factor. I don't know what else to tell you other than they'd go. Even VCU. Butler would leave the Horizon for A10 or MVC invite too if it ever came. WAC and MWC were equal yet every WAC member would rather be in the MWC.

Sorry, but the WAC and MWC were never equal.

And prestige is gained and lost, and changes over time.
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89Hen wrote:
dbackjon wrote:Not sure if ODU or VCU would leave. And mid-major confernce rankings are fluid. A-10 may historically better, but the CAA is catching up and may well pass them.

(good lord, can't beleive I am defending the CAA)...
:lol: Appreciate the love, but don't be embarrassed. You are correct. Xavier is currently the best program in either conference. Beyond that, :coffee: .
Program would be Temple, I guess you forgot they were in the tourney, have the most A10 bids and have been a 1 seed, currently it's VCU since they are the only one in the FF.
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dbackjon wrote:
Fresno St. Alum wrote:
CAA has been better than A10 for 5 years now. It doesn't matter since the A10 has the "prestige" factor. I don't know what else to tell you other than they'd go. Even VCU. Butler would leave the Horizon for A10 or MVC invite too if it ever came. WAC and MWC were equal yet every WAC member would rather be in the MWC.

Sorry, but the WAC and MWC were never equal.

And prestige is gained and lost, and changes over time.
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Fresno St. Alum wrote:
dbackjon wrote:

Sorry, but the WAC and MWC were never equal.

And prestige is gained and lost, and changes over time.

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dbackjon wrote:
Fresno St. Alum wrote:
CAA has been better than A10 for 5 years now. It doesn't matter since the A10 has the "prestige" factor. I don't know what else to tell you other than they'd go. Even VCU. Butler would leave the Horizon for A10 or MVC invite too if it ever came. WAC and MWC were equal yet every WAC member would rather be in the MWC.

Sorry, but the WAC and MWC were never equal.

And prestige is gained and lost, and changes over time.
Watching this argument is like the argument I watch on the BE board where they think that Penn St. and Maryland could leave ACC/B10 for the BE. Not happening. B10 might pull Maryland but no one from the B10 is going to the ACC. A10 has a bigger TV contract than the CAA do they not. No one would take a pay cut. I don't see anyone turning down joining if it brings in more money.
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Fresno St. Alum wrote:
∞∞∞ wrote: No one knows if Charlotte wants to be an FBS member; message board banter doesn't matter. Their administration has been exactly like Georgia State's during this whole process...no information if FCS is what they want or if the FBS is the final goal (and when I say final goal, I mean in <10 years, not 20+ years down the line). Only recently did GSU say they are committed to the CAA and the FCS. UTSA said FBS, ODU said FCS, but no one knows what the hell Charlotte wants to do. Anyways, I'm ok with them being a CAA member for 4-5 years but yes, that wouldn't make sense for them which is what ultimately matters.
Why would Charlotte say anything other than they want to be FCS. As long as they don't have a conf. invite from a FBS conf. they can't go anyway. No reason to piss off an FCS conf. that might offer you fb only membership if you say we want to be FBS w/o a home. UTSA has a FBS home GA St. doesn't
I don't think they'd be pissing off an FCS conference. I'm sure comissioners just want to know the truth so that they and Charlotte can work out the best available deal for all schools involved. I think they'd be more pissed off if they're not told the truth. The athletic community is a small one and word spreads fast, and bridges burn quickly.
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dbackjon wrote:
Fresno St. Alum wrote:

I rendered FSA speechless!!


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Fresno St. Alum wrote:Go back to school if you think the A10 only care about basketball. A10 has the "prestige" whether it's real or invited. Just like the Patriot is the Almost Ivy.
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Invented. I see you quoted me before I edited it.
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Fresno St. Alum wrote:
89Hen wrote: :lol: Appreciate the love, but don't be embarrassed. You are correct. Xavier is currently the best program in either conference. Beyond that, :coffee: .
Program would be Temple, I guess you forgot they were in the tourney, have the most A10 bids and have been a 1 seed, currently it's VCU since they are the only one in the FF.
I guess you missed the word CURRENTLY. Temple? :lol:

Here's a tidbit for you. You say the A10 is more than bball. Did you know that there are only FOUR teams from the A10 that are even in the Director's Cup stadings?

79. Dayton
169. Richmond
170. Massachusetts
170. Xavier

For comparison's sake...

CAA
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67. Old Dominion
87. Delaware
97. Hofstra
103. George Mason
135. Towson
140. James Madison
202. Drexel
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Fresno St. Alum wrote:
89Hen wrote: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :clap:
Invented. I see you quoted me before I edited it.
I wasn't laughing at the misspell. :kisswink:
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Fresno St. Alum wrote: Why would Charlotte say anything other than they want to be FCS. As long as they don't have a conf. invite from a FBS conf. they can't go anyway. No reason to piss off an FCS conf. that might offer you fb only membership if you say we want to be FBS w/o a home. UTSA has a FBS home GA St. doesn't
I don't think they'd be pissing off an FCS conference. I'm sure comissioners just want to know the truth so that they and Charlotte can work out the best available deal for all schools involved. I think they'd be more pissed off if they're not told the truth. The athletic community is a small one and word spreads fast, and bridges burned quickly.
Have you been watching all of this conf. movement, it's all behind the back secretive BS. Truth is the one thing that will never come out while trying to get a deal:nod:
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89Hen wrote:
Fresno St. Alum wrote:
Program would be Temple, I guess you forgot they were in the tourney, have the most A10 bids and have been a 1 seed, currently it's VCU since they are the only one in the FF.
I guess you missed the word CURRENTLY. Temple? :lol:

Here's a tidbit for you. You say the A10 is more than bball. Did you know that there are only FOUR teams from the A10 that are even in the Director's Cup stadings?

79. Dayton
169. Richmond
170. Massachusetts
170. Xavier

For comparison's sake...

CAA
61. William and Mary
67. Old Dominion
87. Delaware
97. Hofstra
103. George Mason
135. Towson
140. James Madison
202. Drexel
Then you're retarded because currently the best program is VCU. Those numbers don't mean shit. No 1 or 2's are in the final four. I believe Butler again and VCU told the RPI find a new formula
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89Hen wrote:
Fresno St. Alum wrote:
Program would be Temple, I guess you forgot they were in the tourney, have the most A10 bids and have been a 1 seed, currently it's VCU since they are the only one in the FF.
I guess you missed the word CURRENTLY. Temple? :lol:

Here's a tidbit for you. You say the A10 is more than bball. Did you know that there are only FOUR teams from the A10 that are even in the Director's Cup stadings?

79. Dayton
169. Richmond
170. Massachusetts
170. Xavier

For comparison's sake...

CAA
61. William and Mary
67. Old Dominion
87. Delaware
97. Hofstra
103. George Mason
135. Towson
140. James Madison
202. Drexel
Also CURRENTLY Richmond is a better program than Xavier. They won the A10 Tourney and made the sweet 16. SO you're info sucks. CURRENTLY Temple made the A10 championship game and won a Tourney game Xavier didn't :tothehand:
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Fresno St. Alum wrote:A10 has a bigger TV contract than the CAA do they not. No one would take a pay cut. I don't see anyone turning down joining if it brings in more money.
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/4928 ... im-the-fat
Why does the Atlantic 10 have a television contract that would embarrass low major conferences such as the NEAC or the MAC?

The answer is simple, the bottom of the Atlantic 10 is a pitiful collection of pathetic basketball programs that put no effort into their programs and ultimately cause great damage to those Atlantic 10 schools that do try to put a respectable product on the court. The bottom of the conference is littered with RPI poison and schools that have no fans or following.
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Fresno St. Alum wrote:Then you're retarded because currently the best program is VCU. Those numbers don't mean shit. No 1 or 2's are in the final four. I believe Butler again and VCU told the RPI find a new formula
:lol: This is worthless if I have to stop and explain everything to you.
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ooooh quotes from the bleacher report. Let me bust out the Enquirer to respond to that. There's no NEAC in D-I or D-II by the way. You can't just cut La Salle, but keep reading their shit.
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