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Mountaineer wrote:
grizzaholic wrote: Put your crying towel down and drink your sorrows away like any other man.

JMU-Montan is on Friday
RIchmond-UNI is on Saturday.
I'm not much of a drinker. :shock:

I do have a klonopin or two laying around, hmmmm, perhaps sedation is the answer. :D
There's never been a time when it wasn't the answer. My only question would be how can you have two of those left over? I'd have those down before I left the drug store.
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Ursus A. Horribilis wrote:There's never been a time when it wasn't the answer. My only question would be how can you have two of those left over? I'd have those down before I left the drug store.
:lol: :lol:

I'm a wuss when it comes to medication, OTC and prescription. :? They were given to me by a lady friend..heh. :oops:
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Mountaineer wrote:
Ursus A. Horribilis wrote:There's never been a time when it wasn't the answer. My only question would be how can you have two of those left over? I'd have those down before I left the drug store.
:lol: :lol:

I'm a wuss when it comes to medication, OTC and prescription. :? They were given to me by a lady friend..heh. :oops:
Switch to cough syrup & Vicodin, Moutaineer! That's been my "go to" remedy when all else fails!! :lol: :lol: ;)
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SeattleGriz wrote:Montana 31
JMU 24

Thats it? No comments on Montana or JMU? Weak.
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Didn't realize I only posted on eGriz...

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Mvemjsunpx wrote:Here's my assessment of the matchups & my pick for the game:


      • Quarterbacks -- James Madison

        Running Backs - Montana

        Receivers/TEs - Montana

        Offensive Line - Montana


        Defensive Line - (push)

        Linebackers --- Montana

        Secondary ---- Montana


        Kicking ------ James Madison

        Punting ------ Montana

        Return Teams - Montana

        Kickoffs ------ James Madison





          • Montana 31-24 James Madison
This is really bias. I would definitely give JMU in favor of the QBs, RBs, Return Teams, defensive line, and then push for secondary. Montana may have the best RB in the game, but JMU's RBs as a whole is better. They use 2-3RBs in the game. I don't know why you gave Return teams to Montana. JMU has probably the best return guy in McGee. Secondary I said is a push because JMU has Haywood who is still up for Buchannon award. Montana's rushing game will be shut down. Villanova's running game averages 224yds a game and they only got 81yds last Saturday. Montana's QB will have to win the game for them.
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travelinman67 wrote: Key will be Montana's defense. They'll have to seal up the outside to keep Lander's in check...being an opportunist when the z's a go, Montana can't just hold the line, or worse, pile up the tackle/TE like they've done with other soft "I" configurations. They need to keep Corwin and Schillinger (WLB and FS) freed up for the outside, using Lebsock and Anderson for the gaps ...and have the line use stunts and f 'em shows to keep Lander's distracted (not to mention Schillinger's got the speed to match Landers in the backfield). If the Griz D does it right...they'll contain Landers and head to Chatty.
There's always that IF, isn't there...it gets in the way of so many plans...

I, for one, have never doubted that Montana is good...I'm pretty sure JMU is a touch better this year...

If you focus too much on Landers and his running ability, he can pass the ball, which then loosens up that defense...

In fact, it would not surprise me to see JMU come out pass-happy Friday night to do just that...put the defense on its heals...

Then, Landers and company shoot the gaps and become Chatty bound...

It is going to be a great game...no IF about it...
I totally agree except for coming out pass happy. Landers has 21Tds passing 4Int. Whereas he has 16TDs rushing. A decent amount of those TDs went to wide open WRs since all the teams have loaded the box to stop Landers and the RBs.
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grizzaholic wrote:
SeattleGriz wrote:Montana 31
JMU 24

Thats it? No comments on Montana or JMU? Weak.
I've decided to let the team do the talkin'. :twisted:
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godukes wrote: Montana's rushing game will be shut down.
If there's any team that can do that; its JMU...but if I had a dollar for every time I've heard that this season, I'd be able to buy a burger at the Mo Club, and enough beers to get a comfortable buzz!
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Grizo406 wrote:
godukes wrote: Montana's rushing game will be shut down.
If there's any team that can do that; its JMU...but if I had a dollar for every time I've heard that this season, I'd be able to buy a burger at the Mo Club, and enough beers to get a comfortable buzz!

Well ofcourse anything can happen, but if JMU can stop one of the best running teams in the nation(avgs. 224yds a game to 81yds a game), then I am sure they can be shut down or shut it down enough to prevent Montana from winning the game. Montana has a pretty good running game, but not nearly as good as Villanova's.
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godukes wrote: This is really bias. I would definitely give JMU in favor of the QBs, RBs, Return Teams, defensive line, and then push for secondary. Montana may have the best RB in the game, but JMU's RBs as a whole is better. They use 2-3RBs in the game. I don't know why you gave Return teams to Montana. JMU has probably the best return guy in McGee. Secondary I said is a push because JMU has Haywood who is still up for Buchannon award. Montana's rushing game will be shut down. Villanova's running game averages 224yds a game and they only got 81yds last Saturday. Montana's QB will have to win the game for them.

You'd give RBs to JMU, seriously? Montana has more than just Reynolds, you know. In the backup war, Yancey has slightly better stats than Andrew Schmidt (mainly due to better receiving numbers), but Reynolds's stats are noticeably better than Holloman's. Factor in what Reynolds has done in recent games & the gap is even wider.

The return stats are about even, but Montana has 6 punt blocks to JMU's 3. Punt blocks are part of the punt return team, of course, & it makes the difference in this case. Both teams are way ahead of Richmond & UNI on the return game front, though.

UM's secondary certainly has better stats. UM's starters have more interceptions, more tackles for loss, and more pass breakups than JMU's starters despite starting one fewer DB. Montana also has a better passing efficiency defense despite fewer sacks.

You could argue D-Line, but I called it a push because Montana seems to have a little better depth there.
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Grizo406 wrote: If there's any team that can do that; its JMU...but if I had a dollar for every time I've heard that this season, I'd be able to buy a burger at the Mo Club, and enough beers to get a comfortable buzz!

Well ofcourse anything can happen, but if JMU can stop one of the best running teams in the nation(avgs. 224yds a game to 81yds a game), then I am sure they can be shut down or shut it down enough to prevent Montana from winning the game. Montana has a pretty good running game, but not nearly as good as Villanova's.
On what is this obviously biased statement based? This season has been like a tale of two seasons for the Griz. Games 1-6, they were a passing team. When Hauck, Phenice and Co. finally realized what they had in Reynolds, they became a running team. If you're going on total yards this season, take the last 7 games and multiply THAT figure by two. Throw out the first six games...THAT is not Montana football any more.
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There is going to be a big ole' Grizzley Bear in the middle of the field when the game is over with Spider legs sticking out of its mouth.

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GoApps70 wrote:There is going to be a big ole' Grizzley Bear in the middle of the field when the game is over with Spider legs sticking out of its mouth.

Go Grizz !!!


You're assuming quite a bit there, son.

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Mvemjsunpx wrote:
godukes wrote: This is really bias. I would definitely give JMU in favor of the QBs, RBs, Return Teams, defensive line, and then push for secondary. Montana may have the best RB in the game, but JMU's RBs as a whole is better. They use 2-3RBs in the game. I don't know why you gave Return teams to Montana. JMU has probably the best return guy in McGee. Secondary I said is a push because JMU has Haywood who is still up for Buchannon award. Montana's rushing game will be shut down. Villanova's running game averages 224yds a game and they only got 81yds last Saturday. Montana's QB will have to win the game for them.

You'd give RBs to JMU, seriously? Montana has more than just Reynolds, you know. In the backup war, Yancey has slightly better stats than Andrew Schmidt (mainly due to better receiving numbers), but Reynolds's stats are noticeably better than Holloman's. Factor in what Reynolds has done in recent games & the gap is even wider.

The return stats are about even, but Montana has 6 punt blocks to JMU's 3. Punt blocks are part of the punt return team, of course, & it makes the difference in this case. Both teams are way ahead of Richmond & UNI on the return game front, though.

UM's secondary certainly has better stats. UM's starters have more interceptions, more tackles for loss, and more pass breakups than JMU's starters despite starting one fewer DB. Montana also has a better passing efficiency defense despite fewer sacks.

You could argue D-Line, but I called it a push because Montana seems to have a little better depth there.
I just said Reynold's is probably the best RB between the two teams, but JMU's running game as a whole is better. Reynolld's stats are ofcourse better than Holloman's because he shares carries with Yancey. I do consider blocked punts as part of the return game, but what I meant was JMU has a better return's guy in McGee than Montana does. Plus you can't really go with stats with who is better. You got to look at who each team plays. JMU is in the best conference and they have to go against some of the best rush defenses in the game with the likes of Villanova and Richmond run defense.
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Well ofcourse anything can happen, but if JMU can stop one of the best running teams in the nation(avgs. 224yds a game to 81yds a game), then I am sure they can be shut down or shut it down enough to prevent Montana from winning the game. Montana has a pretty good running game, but not nearly as good as Villanova's.
On what is this obviously biased statement based? This season has been like a tale of two seasons for the Griz. Games 1-6, they were a passing team. When Hauck, Phenice and Co. finally realized what they had in Reynolds, they became a running team. If you're going on total yards this season, take the last 7 games and multiply THAT figure by two. Throw out the first six games...THAT is not Montana football any more.
You have to take the whole season. Their season basically shows that Montana is a pretty good running team, but not that great passing team if you look at it that way. We obviously know JMU is going to run a 4-3-4 instead of their normal 4-2-5. They used a 4-3-4 against Nova who avg. 224yds. a game and got only 81yds against JMU.
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It has to be getting close to Friday.
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grizzaholic wrote:It has to be getting close to Friday.
Yep are you going to the game?
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godukes wrote:
grizzaholic wrote:It has to be getting close to Friday.
Yep are you going to the game?
Nope, but I am going to be getting off work early to have a few beers at a local brewery before I watch it. After following AZGrizFan around these past few days I am very confident that the Griz will win this game. I do think it will be an ugly game all around. For some odd reason I think neither team will play it's best ball. Don't know why, just what I have been thinking so far today. I am sure it will change by tomorrow.
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You people are much too serious about this crap.


I'm going to UNI Saturday morning and, win or lose, I love the Panthers and will have a great time.
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Cap'n Cat wrote:You people are much too serious about this crap.


I'm going to UNI Saturday morning and, win or lose, I love the Panthers and will have a great time.
Hey, I am a Griz fan win or lose as well. I am just a little ansy (sp) about the game. I cannot wait.
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grizzaholic wrote:
godukes wrote: Yep are you going to the game?
Nope, but I am going to be getting off work early to have a few beers at a local brewery before I watch it. After following AZGrizFan around these past few days I am very confident that the Griz will win this game. I do think it will be an ugly game all around. For some odd reason I think neither team will play it's best ball. Don't know why, just what I have been thinking so far today. I am sure it will change by tomorrow.
I am not trying to be bias, but I think JMU is going to win this game. JMU hasn't lost in about 4 months, haven't lost to a team in the toughest conference, and didn't lose to Villanova in the playoffs when they were trying to get redemption. I just don't think Montana is the answer to defeating the Dukes for the first time in about 4 months. Personally, I think Villanova is better than Montana.
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grizzaholic wrote: Nope, but I am going to be getting off work early to have a few beers at a local brewery before I watch it. After following AZGrizFan around these past few days I am very confident that the Griz will win this game. I do think it will be an ugly game all around. For some odd reason I think neither team will play it's best ball. Don't know why, just what I have been thinking so far today. I am sure it will change by tomorrow.
I am not trying to be bias, but I think JMU is going to win this game. JMU hasn't lost in about 4 months, haven't lost to a team in the toughest conference, and didn't lose to Villanova in the playoffs when they were trying to get redemption. I just don't think Montana is the answer to defeating the Dukes for the first time in about 4 months. Personally, I think Villanova is better than Montana.
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godukes wrote:
grizzaholic wrote: Nope, but I am going to be getting off work early to have a few beers at a local brewery before I watch it. After following AZGrizFan around these past few days I am very confident that the Griz will win this game. I do think it will be an ugly game all around. For some odd reason I think neither team will play it's best ball. Don't know why, just what I have been thinking so far today. I am sure it will change by tomorrow.
I am not trying to be bias, but I think JMU is going to win this game. JMU hasn't lost in about 4 months, haven't lost to a team in the toughest conference, and didn't lose to Villanova in the playoffs when they were trying to get redemption. I just don't think Montana is the answer to defeating the Dukes for the first time in about 4 months. Personally, I think Villanova is better than Montana.


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