Most Dominant I-AA/FCS Conference Performance Ever?

[Gil Dobie]

I'd bet you that if North Dakota State was in a playoff game needing to advance the FCS team they'd LEAST like to see across the line of scrimmage from them would be UNI.

I don't think that's how NDSU would look at it. To be the best, you have to beat the best. If UNI was lined up against the Bison, there would be a great motivation to beat them. Another challenge that they would embrace. UNI was the toughest game that NDSU played this year, but NDSU would never not want to see a chance for redemption. UNI did not make it to this part of the season, so it's a moot point. ISUR beat UNI in the playoffs and now have a game with NDSU. You play the games that are in front of you, and I think NDSU would have loved to try and win a championship against UNI, but ISUR is the team they will play.

[D1B]

I'd bet you that if North Dakota State was in a playoff game needing to advance the FCS team they'd LEAST like to see across the line of scrimmage from them would be UNI.

I don't think that's how NDSU would look at it. To be the best, you have to beat the best. If UNI was lined up against the Bison, there would be a great motivation to beat them. Another challenge that they would embrace. UNI was the toughest game that NDSU played this year, but NDSU would never not want to see a chance for redemption. UNI did not make it to this part of the season, so it's a moot point. ISUR beat UNI in the playoffs and now have a game with NDSU. You play the games that are in front of you, and I think NDSU would have loved to try and win a championship against UNI, but ISUR is the team they will play.

Well said, Gil.

Say, can julian and I come over for dinner and open our presents you got for us tonight?

[Gil Dobie]

I don't think that's how NDSU would look at it. To be the best, you have to beat the best. If UNI was lined up against the Bison, there would be a great motivation to beat them. Another challenge that they would embrace. UNI was the toughest game that NDSU played this year, but NDSU would never not want to see a chance for redemption. UNI did not make it to this part of the season, so it's a moot point. ISUR beat UNI in the playoffs and now have a game with NDSU. You play the games that are in front of you, and I think NDSU would have loved to try and win a championship against UNI, but ISUR is the team they will play.

Well said, Gil.

Say, can julian and I come over for dinner and open our presents you got for us tonight?

My brother-in-law volunteers at the local food shelf on Tuesday. I'll see if he can procure a truck to make a delivery to you and Julie. I'll throw in a pizza,popcorn, a couple bottles of Mad Dog, shrooms and a dime of Maui to enjoy the MVFC championship game on the 10th.

[JohnStOnge]

Oh you guys know what I'm talking about. As a fan, there are certain teams that worry you. If you tell me, for instance, that if you're a NDSU fan and when the semifinal was about to start it was Northern Iowa across the field instead of Sam Houston State you wouldn't have been more nervous about getting back to the title game you're lying. Not that you'd have been SCARED or think the Bison couldn't do it. But you'd think your chances of losing would be a lot greater and you'd be right.

[Gil Dobie]

Oh you guys know what I'm talking about. As a fan, there are certain teams that worry you. If you tell me, for instance, that if you're a NDSU fan and when the semifinal was about to start it was Northern Iowa across the field instead of Sam Houston State you wouldn't have been more nervous about getting back to the title game you're lying. Not that you'd have been SCARED or think the Bison couldn't do it. But you'd think your chances of losing would be a lot greater and you'd be right.

I understand that UNI would be tougher competition than Sam. I don't like when the Bison lose, but I'm not afraid of them losing. I've seen them lose many big games, one on a 50yd FG to Troy St, as time ran out in the National Championship game. The Bison came back and won four Championships in the next 6 years. The loss to EWU in the overtime playoff game a few years back. The UNI game this year broke the FCS unbeaten string. Who knows when the Bison get back to the Championship game, maybe next year, maybe in 20 years. I'm not scared of them losing or who they are playing, just looking forward to see how they play against each team.

[Pwns]

The 2007 CAA was a better league IMO. They didn't win the championship because of that App State machine, but they were really good that year. The Delaware, New Hampshire, Richmond, and JMU teams from that year are all at least as good as all of the MVFC teams from this year other than NDSU.

[clenz]

UD is the only team that comes close to NDSU, ISUr, or UNI this season

[Pwns]

UD is the only team that comes close to NDSU, ISUr, or UNI this season

I'm not sure how to really argue against or for that.

I will say that as much as I like to think non-traditional powers like Towson and Coastal Carolina can get better and compete with the big-name FCS teams, I do think that the Griz and the traditional CAA and SoCon powers being down (or out of the picture) certainly has opened the door for MVFC dominance.

[JohnStOnge]

The 2007 CAA was a better league IMO. They didn't win the championship because of that App State machine, but they were really good that year. The Delaware, New Hampshire, Richmond, and JMU teams from that year are all at least as good as all of the MVFC teams from this year other than NDSU.

I think that there were a number of years when the CAA was the top conference and a lot of other years when they were up NEAR the top. If you go by Sagarin ratings they were #2 behind App State's Southern in 2007 but then they were #1 in 2008, 2009, and 2010.

However, I don't know if any conference has ever had a year like the MVFC has had this year. Again, 30 - 2 against other FCS conferences. The only regular season loss 28-20 loss by South Dakota, a team that finished 0-8 in the MVFC, to Montana, a team that finished 6-2 in the Big Sky.

I mean think about that. The only regular season non conference loss to another FCS conference is an eight point loss by a team that went WINLESS in the MVFC AT Montana.

And then OK Indiana State, which went 4-4 in the MVFC, lost on the road in the playoffs to a Southern Conference champ that went 7-0 in that league. That's IT. That's the only losses by MVFC teams to FCS teams from other leagues.

I would be very surprised if any other I-AA/FCS league has ever had that kind of record against other I-AA/FCS leagues. Then the cherry on top is two teams from the same league in the title game for the first time in 37 years of I-AA/FCS tournaments.

[D1B]

The 2007 CAA was a better league IMO. They didn't win the championship because of that App State machine, but they were really good that year. The Delaware, New Hampshire, Richmond, and JMU teams from that year are all at least as good as all of the MVFC teams from this year other than NDSU.

I think that there were a number of years when the CAA was the top conference and a lot of other years when they were up NEAR the top. If you go by Sagarin ratings they were #2 behind App State's Southern in 2007 but then they were #1 in 2008, 2009, and 2010.

However, I don't know if any conference has ever had a year like the MVFC has had this year. Again, 30 - 2 against other FCS conferences. The only regular season loss 28-20 loss by South Dakota, a team that finished 0-8 in the MVFC, to Montana, a team that finished 6-2 in the Big Sky.

I mean think about that. The only regular season non conference loss to another FCS conference is an eight point loss by a team that went WINLESS in the MVFC AT Montana.

And then OK Indiana State, which went 4-4 in the MVFC, lost on the road in the playoffs to a Southern Conference champ that went 7-0 in that league. That's IT. That's the only losses by MVFC teams to FCS teams from other leagues.

I would be very surprised if any other I-AA/FCS league has ever had that kind of record against other I-AA/FCS leagues. Then the cherry on top is two teams from the same league in the title game for the first time in 37 years of I-AA/FCS tournaments.

No!!!! But....but Montana won a NC 20 years ago! Griz are the best ever.

[AZGrizFan]

I think that there were a number of years when the CAA was the top conference and a lot of other years when they were up NEAR the top. If you go by Sagarin ratings they were #2 behind App State's Southern in 2007 but then they were #1 in 2008, 2009, and 2010.

However, I don't know if any conference has ever had a year like the MVFC has had this year. Again, 30 - 2 against other FCS conferences. The only regular season loss 28-20 loss by South Dakota, a team that finished 0-8 in the MVFC, to Montana, a team that finished 6-2 in the Big Sky.

I mean think about that. The only regular season non conference loss to another FCS conference is an eight point loss by a team that went WINLESS in the MVFC AT Montana.

And then OK Indiana State, which went 4-4 in the MVFC, lost on the road in the playoffs to a Southern Conference champ that went 7-0 in that league. That's IT. That's the only losses by MVFC teams to FCS teams from other leagues.

I would be very surprised if any other I-AA/FCS league has ever had that kind of record against other I-AA/FCS leagues. Then the cherry on top is two teams from the same league in the title game for the first time in 37 years of I-AA/FCS tournaments.

No!!!! But....but Montana won a NC 20 years ago! Griz are the best ever.

13, but who's counting...

[Grizalltheway]

No!!!! But....but Montana won a NC 20 years ago! Griz are the best ever.

13, but who's counting...

UNI's trophy case:

[AZGrizFan]

13, but who's counting...

UNI's trophy case:

[clenz]

13, but who's counting...

UNI's trophy case:

When it's been so long since a trophy was added that so much dust has accumulated that it's covering the trophies and makes it look empty is there really a difference?

[D1B]

UNI's trophy case:

When it's been so long since a trophy was added that so much dust has accumulated that it's covering the trophies and makes it look empty is there really a difference?

No shit. The university janitor (Ursus) now uses em to prop open the shitter doors when he's cleaning.

[Grizalltheway]

UNI's trophy case:

When it's been so long since a trophy was added that so much dust has accumulated that it's covering the trophies and makes it look empty is there really a difference?

You mean would I rather have no national titles for 13 years, but 2 in my lifetime, than zero in program history? I think you know the answer.

[D1B]

When it's been so long since a trophy was added that so much dust has accumulated that it's covering the trophies and makes it look empty is there really a difference?

You mean would I rather have no national titles for 13 years, but 2 in my lifetime, than zero in program history? I think you know the answer.

You're still irrelevant.

You weren't even born when they won those.

[D1B]

You mean would I rather have no national titles for 13 years, but 2 in my lifetime, than zero in program history? I think you know the answer.

You're still irrelevant.

You weren't even born when they won those. Come back when they win one in your lifetime, Skippy.

[D1B]

You're still irrelevant.

You weren't even born when they won those. Come back when they win one in your lifetime, Skippy.

I can understand Z still living on em. He was 50 when they got their last trophy, handed to em.

[Gil Dobie]

The 2007 CAA was a better league IMO. They didn't win the championship because of that App State machine, but they were really good that year. The Delaware, New Hampshire, Richmond, and JMU teams from that year are all at least as good as all of the MVFC teams from this year other than NDSU.

2007 final sagarin
1. App St
2. UNI
3. Richmond
4. NDSU (transition)

[D1B]

The 2007 CAA was a better league IMO. They didn't win the championship because of that App State machine, but they were really good that year. The Delaware, New Hampshire, Richmond, and JMU teams from that year are all at least as good as all of the MVFC teams from this year other than NDSU.

2007 final sagarin
1. App St
2. UNI
3. Richmond
4. NDSU (transition)

Nice

[Grizalltheway]

You mean would I rather have no national titles for 13 years, but 2 in my lifetime, than zero in program history? I think you know the answer.

You're still irrelevant.

You weren't even born when they won those.

Wrong.

[AZGrizFan]

The 2007 CAA was a better league IMO. They didn't win the championship because of that App State machine, but they were really good that year. The Delaware, New Hampshire, Richmond, and JMU teams from that year are all at least as good as all of the MVFC teams from this year other than NDSU.

I think that there were a number of years when the CAA was the top conference and a lot of other years when they were up NEAR the top. If you go by Sagarin ratings they were #2 behind App State's Southern in 2007 but then they were #1 in 2008, 2009, and 2010.

However, I don't know if any conference has ever had a year like the MVFC has had this year. Again, 30 - 2 against other FCS conferences. The only regular season loss 28-20 loss by South Dakota, a team that finished 0-8 in the MVFC, to Montana, a team that finished 6-2 in the Big Sky.

I mean think about that. The only regular season non conference loss to another FCS conference is an eight point loss by a team that went WINLESS in the MVFC AT Montana.

And then OK Indiana State, which went 4-4 in the MVFC, lost on the road in the playoffs to a Southern Conference champ that went 7-0 in that league. That's IT. That's the only losses by MVFC teams to FCS teams from other leagues.

I would be very surprised if any other I-AA/FCS league has ever had that kind of record against other I-AA/FCS leagues. Then the cherry on top is two teams from the same league in the title game for the first time in 37 years of I-AA/FCS tournaments.

You know, that same USD team had playoff-bound UNI in their sights as well, down only 20-16 with 7 minutes left in the game. They were LEADING then #11 YSU 17-14 with 10 minutes to go in their game. They were down just 30-26 to WIU late in the 3rd quarter and were within 8 of ISU 4 minutes into the 4th quarter of THEIR game. They may not have ended up winning any of those games but USD wasn't the pushover their record makes them out to be.

And if we're going to talk about moral victories (which seems to be what you're doing in the way you phrase USD's game against Montana) why doesn't anyone ever mention the fact that the BSC doormat Weber State gave NDSU all IT wanted early in the season before NDSU finally pulled away with a defensive touchdown?

[kalm]

I think that there were a number of years when the CAA was the top conference and a lot of other years when they were up NEAR the top. If you go by Sagarin ratings they were #2 behind App State's Southern in 2007 but then they were #1 in 2008, 2009, and 2010.

However, I don't know if any conference has ever had a year like the MVFC has had this year. Again, 30 - 2 against other FCS conferences. The only regular season loss 28-20 loss by South Dakota, a team that finished 0-8 in the MVFC, to Montana, a team that finished 6-2 in the Big Sky.

I mean think about that. The only regular season non conference loss to another FCS conference is an eight point loss by a team that went WINLESS in the MVFC AT Montana.

And then OK Indiana State, which went 4-4 in the MVFC, lost on the road in the playoffs to a Southern Conference champ that went 7-0 in that league. That's IT. That's the only losses by MVFC teams to FCS teams from other leagues.

I would be very surprised if any other I-AA/FCS league has ever had that kind of record against other I-AA/FCS leagues. Then the cherry on top is two teams from the same league in the title game for the first time in 37 years of I-AA/FCS tournaments.

You know, that same USD team had playoff-bound UNI in their sights as well, down only 20-16 with 7 minutes left in the game. They were LEADING then #11 YSU 17-14 with 10 minutes to go in their game. They were down just 30-26 to WIU late in the 3rd quarter and were within 8 of ISU 4 minutes into the 4th quarter of THEIR game. They may not have ended up winning any of those games but USD wasn't the pushover their record makes them out to be.

And if we're going to talk about moral victories (which seems to be what you're doing in the way you phrase USD's game against Montana) why doesn't anyone ever mention the fact that the BSC doormat Weber State gave NDSU all IT wanted early in the season before NDSU finally pulled away with a defensive touchdown?

Because the truth is, while the Valley is most certainly the best conference this year, the gap between the Valley, BSC, CAA, and SLC is still very small.

The Southern has been replaced by the SLC as one of the top 4 and is now a step behind along with the OVC.

[clenz]

I think that there were a number of years when the CAA was the top conference and a lot of other years when they were up NEAR the top. If you go by Sagarin ratings they were #2 behind App State's Southern in 2007 but then they were #1 in 2008, 2009, and 2010.

However, I don't know if any conference has ever had a year like the MVFC has had this year. Again, 30 - 2 against other FCS conferences. The only regular season loss 28-20 loss by South Dakota, a team that finished 0-8 in the MVFC, to Montana, a team that finished 6-2 in the Big Sky.

I mean think about that. The only regular season non conference loss to another FCS conference is an eight point loss by a team that went WINLESS in the MVFC AT Montana.

And then OK Indiana State, which went 4-4 in the MVFC, lost on the road in the playoffs to a Southern Conference champ that went 7-0 in that league. That's IT. That's the only losses by MVFC teams to FCS teams from other leagues.

I would be very surprised if any other I-AA/FCS league has ever had that kind of record against other I-AA/FCS leagues. Then the cherry on top is two teams from the same league in the title game for the first time in 37 years of I-AA/FCS tournaments.

You know, that same USD team had playoff-bound UNI in their sights as well, down only 20-16 with 7 minutes left in the game. They were LEADING then #11 YSU 17-14 with 10 minutes to go in their game. They were down just 30-26 to WIU late in the 3rd quarter and were within 8 of ISU 4 minutes into the 4th quarter of THEIR game. They may not have ended up winning any of those games but USD wasn't the pushover their record makes them out to be.

And if we're going to talk about moral victories (which seems to be what you're doing in the way you phrase USD's game against Montana) why doesn't anyone ever mention the fact that the BSC doormat Weber State gave NDSU all IT wanted early in the season before NDSU finally pulled away with a defensive touchdown?

Check were USD finished statistically in each category....


Yeah...

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