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Top 50 FCS Prospects

Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 7:23 am
by SmallCollegeFBFan
Here are the top 50 FCS prospects based on what I have been able to compile. Anyone missing that has had all 32 teams come look at them or one that is getting a big buzz at your school?

Rank Pos First Name Last Name School Rd. Proj.
1 OT Vladimir Ducasse Massachusetts 2nd-3rd
2 WR Andre' Roberts Citadel 5th
3 QB John Skelton Fordham 5th
4 OLB Danny Batten South Dakota State 5th-6th
5 DE Austen Lane Murray State 5th-6th
6 RB Deji Karim Southern Illinois 5th-6th
7 OT Derek Hardman Eastern Kentucky 6th
8 WR Chris Carter UC Davis 6th
9 QB Armanti Edwards Appalachian State 6th
10 FB Clayton Harbor Missouri State 6th
11 WR Juamorris Stewart Southern 6th-7th
12 DE/OLB Arthur Moats James Madison 6th-7th
13 TE Nate Overbay Eastern Washington 6th-7th
14 SS Quentin Scott Northern Iowa 7th
15 DE James Ruffin Northern Iowa 7th
16 WR Pat Simonds Colgate 7th-PFA
17 OLB Larry Hart Central Arkansas 7th-PFA
18 WR Terrell Hudgins Elon PFA
19 WR Marc Mariani Montana PFA
20 C Kyle Mutcher Weber State PFA
21 OT James Williams Harvard PFA
22 OLB Timothy Knicky Stephen F. Austin PFA
23 WR Tim Toone Weber State PFA
24 QB Noah Shepard South Dakota PFA
25 WR Donald Jones Youngstown State PFA
26 RB Pat Paschall North Dakota State PFA
27 CB Patrick Stoudamire Western Illinois PFA
28 WR Bakari Grant UC Davis PFA
29 FS Jeromy Miles Massachusetts PFA
30 OT Austin Howard Northern Iowa PFA
31 RB William Ford South Carolina State PFA
32 OG Casey Bender South Dakota State PFA
33 OLB Christian Anthony Grambling State PFA
34 DT David Howard Brown PFA
35 CB Christian Richards Stony Brook PFA
36 TE Daniel Beaudin Montana PFA
37 DE Adrian Tracy William & Mary PFA
38 TE Scott Sicko New Hampshire PFA
39 DT Ko Quaye South Dakota PFA
40 QB R.J. Archer William & Mary PFA
41 QB Pat Grace Northern Iowa PFA
42 OG Dorian Brooks James Madison PFA
43 CB Cortez Gilbert Appalachian State PFA
44 WR Eyad Salem Illinois State PFA
45 OT Casey Knips South Dakota State PFA
46 QB Dominic Randolph Holy Cross PFA
47 OT Andre Barbour Eastern Kentucky PFA
48 QB Brian Babin Southeastern Louisiana PFA
49 WR Mike Hicks Tennessee Martin PFA
50 QB Matt Nichols Eastern Washington PFA

Re: Top 50 FCS Prospects

Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 8:32 am
by JMU DJ
NAU. QB Michael Herrick :coffee:

Re: Top 50 FCS Prospects

Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 8:44 am
by SmallCollegeFBFan
JMU DJ wrote:NAU. QB Michael Herrick :coffee:
This is just for seniors so Herrick is not eligible to be on it.

I have seen Herrick play though and I am not sure if he would make this list anyway because of his size. If he were 6'2 220 then I could see him being on this list but being just 6'1, 195 pounds I am not sure if NFL teams will think he is big enough to play QB.

Re: Top 50 FCS Prospects

Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 8:46 am
by JMU DJ
SmallCollegeFBFan wrote:
JMU DJ wrote:NAU. QB Michael Herrick :coffee:
This is just for seniors so Herrick is not eligible to be on it.

I have seen Herrick play though and I am not sure if he would make this list anyway because of his size. If he were 6'2 220 then I could see him being on this list but being just 6'1, 195 pounds I am not sure if NFL teams will think he is big enough to play QB.
You don't think he's good enough to leave early? It's been done before out of the FCS.

Re: Top 50 FCS Prospects

Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 8:48 am
by wideright82
JMU DJ wrote:
SmallCollegeFBFan wrote:
This is just for seniors so Herrick is not eligible to be on it.

I have seen Herrick play though and I am not sure if he would make this list anyway because of his size. If he were 6'2 220 then I could see him being on this list but being just 6'1, 195 pounds I am not sure if NFL teams will think he is big enough to play QB.
You don't think he's good enough to leave early? It's been done before out of the FCS.

get off NAU's dick DJ. You are taking away some quality dick ridin time from dback

Re: Top 50 FCS Prospects

Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 8:55 am
by SmallCollegeFBFan
JMU DJ wrote:
SmallCollegeFBFan wrote:
This is just for seniors so Herrick is not eligible to be on it.

I have seen Herrick play though and I am not sure if he would make this list anyway because of his size. If he were 6'2 220 then I could see him being on this list but being just 6'1, 195 pounds I am not sure if NFL teams will think he is big enough to play QB.
You don't think he's good enough to leave early? It's been done before out of the FCS.
Is he thinking about leaving school early?

Even if he did leave early I would not include juniors until they officially declare.

Re: Top 50 FCS Prospects

Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 9:25 am
by DukeJack
SmallCollegeFBFan wrote:Is he thinking about leaving school early?

Even if he did leave early I would not include juniors until they officially declare.
I have heard absolutely nothing about that even being a possibility for him. If NAU can reload on receivers for next year so he can keep up his production from this year, I can see him getting a shot somewhere as a FA.

Also, KR/PR Scotty McGee James Madison

Re: Top 50 FCS Prospects

Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 9:32 am
by clenz
Ruffin should probably be higher than the 7th round along with Howard being higher than a free agent.

Re: Top 50 FCS Prospects

Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 11:08 am
by SmallCollegeFBFan
clenz wrote:Ruffin should probably be higher than the 7th round along with Howard being higher than a free agent.
Howard looks stiff so I am not sure if he will get drafted or not at this point. Ruffin is good but his 40 time (4.9) will likely hurt him.

Re: Top 50 FCS Prospects

Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 11:11 am
by DJH
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Re: Top 50 FCS Prospects

Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 12:30 pm
by clenz
You aren't giving Ruffin respect because of his 40 time? Ruffin is an absolute beast and isn't getting the same numbers this year because he is facing 2 lineman plus a chip on most pass plays

Re: Top 50 FCS Prospects

Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 12:34 pm
by Screamin_Eagle174
WR Aaron Boyce. He's got the size and talent, but that injury might have cost him. Only time will tell.

Re: Top 50 FCS Prospects

Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 5:32 pm
by SmallCollegeFBFan
clenz wrote:You aren't giving Ruffin respect because of his 40 time? Ruffin is an absolute beast and isn't getting the same numbers this year because he is facing 2 lineman plus a chip on most pass plays
I am projecting players based on where I think they will go and at this point Ruffin is not that high on team boards because of a few things but his 40 time is one that will hurt him when GMs look at these guys. If he runs 4.7s at the combine it will help but I have had several league insiders tell me PFA on Ruffin. I actually have him rated higher than many teams do and the highest I have seen any team rate him is the 5th round. I have players somewhere around their average. For example, the YSU WR has a 5th round grade from some and PFA from others. There are several players with a differing range such as AE from App State who is anywhere from 4th round to PFA on boards.

Re: Top 50 FCS Prospects

Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 5:32 pm
by SmallCollegeFBFan
Screamin_Eagle174 wrote:WR Aaron Boyce. He's got the size and talent, but that injury might have cost him. Only time will tell.
Most scouts consider him a 4.6 guy and then with the injury that will keep him out for the rest of the season I don't see him getting drafted. Definite free agent though.

Re: Top 50 FCS Prospects

Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 6:40 pm
by Ivytalk
Skelton ahead of Randolph? What a load of BS. Randolph is a better passer...and a winner.

Re: Top 50 FCS Prospects

Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 1:46 am
by ODUfanRazor
For the record, I'd like to add ODU's punter, Jonathan Plisco, to the list of potential pro prospects.

A freshman that leads the country in yards per punt at 45.9 per punt. There are NFL kickers who don't average that. Actually, of 32 NFL teams, only 10 NFL punters average more per kick that Plisco. Obviously kicking in the NFL is a much different situation and much more pressure, but that is pretty damn impressive.

In every game this season except 1, he has kicks of over 50 yards.

A long of 61 against Chowan, 52 against Va Union, 52 against Jacksonville, 60 against Monmouth, 59 against Fordham, 47 against Presbyterian, 76 freaking yards against Campbell (and it was a game changer too), and 64 against Savannah St. Did I mention he is a freshman?

Also, 76 yards would qualify as the longest punt in the NFL this season. 70 yards is the longest so far this season, achieved by Shane Lechler of the Raiders and Jon Ryan of the Falcons.

Re: Top 50 FCS Prospects

Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 3:13 am
by Col Hogan
SmallCollegeFBFan wrote:Here are the top 50 FCS prospects based on what I have been able to compile. Anyone missing that has had all 32 teams come look at them or one that is getting a big buzz at your school?

Rank Pos First Name Last Name School Rd. Proj.
1 OT Vladimir Ducasse Massachusetts 2nd-3rd
Vlad is truly a monster...last Saturday, the Boston Globe, which never covers anything UMass except in passing, did a great story on him that was three pages long on the web site...that is unheard of for a single UMass player...

6'5", 328...and for the last three years protected Liam Coen's blind side...co-captain this year...

According to the Globe, each NFL team has sent a minimum of two scouts to practices and games just to see him...the KC Director of Player personnel spent two days at UMass to watch him...

Vlad will play on Sundays.... :nod:

Re: Top 50 FCS Prospects

Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 6:04 am
by Skjellyfetti
I would think Ryan Perriloux will get drafted fairly high... unless his off the field issues keep teams away from him.

Re: Top 50 FCS Prospects

Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 6:13 am
by HIU 93
SmallCollegeFBFan wrote:Here are the top 50 FCS prospects based on what I have been able to compile. Anyone missing that has had all 32 teams come look at them or one that is getting a big buzz at your school?
Rank Pos First Name Last Name School Rd. Proj.
31 RB William Ford South Carolina State PFA
I would think that is a little low for him.

Re: Top 50 FCS Prospects

Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 9:20 pm
by SmallCollegeFBFan
Ivytalk wrote:Skelton ahead of Randolph? What a load of BS. Randolph is a better passer...and a winner.
The two are not even close in terms of team boards. NFL teams have Skelton rated much higher than Randolph because of upside. He is bigger, has a stronger arm, and has a bigger upside. You are right that Randolph is the better player right now. I forgot to mention that my ratings are also based more on where they are in terms of NFL stock among teams and not solely myself.

Re: Top 50 FCS Prospects

Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 9:23 pm
by SmallCollegeFBFan
ODUfanRazor wrote:For the record, I'd like to add ODU's punter, Jonathan Plisco, to the list of potential pro prospects.

A freshman that leads the country in yards per punt at 45.9 per punt. There are NFL kickers who don't average that. Actually, of 32 NFL teams, only 10 NFL punters average more per kick that Plisco. Obviously kicking in the NFL is a much different situation and much more pressure, but that is pretty damn impressive.

In every game this season except 1, he has kicks of over 50 yards.

A long of 61 against Chowan, 52 against Va Union, 52 against Jacksonville, 60 against Monmouth, 59 against Fordham, 47 against Presbyterian, 76 freaking yards against Campbell (and it was a game changer too), and 64 against Savannah St. Did I mention he is a freshman?

Also, 76 yards would qualify as the longest punt in the NFL this season. 70 yards is the longest so far this season, achieved by Shane Lechler of the Raiders and Jon Ryan of the Falcons.
Very early to say a freshman punter is a pro prospect. I have not seen Plisco yet but I can tell you that hang time, directional kicking, and technique are more important than leg strength. You can line drive a 60 yard punt and NFL teams would rather someone punt 40 yards and hang the ball in the air for 6 seconds. Another thing too is that there are so few open spots for a punter in the NFL so if you aren't a top 3 or 4 punter in the nation, not punting average but a top 3-4 punter in terms of hang time, technique, leg strength, and directional kicking, or you can't kick field goals and do kickoffs then it is almost impossible to make it.

Re: Top 50 FCS Prospects

Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 9:24 pm
by SmallCollegeFBFan
Col Hogan wrote:
SmallCollegeFBFan wrote:Here are the top 50 FCS prospects based on what I have been able to compile. Anyone missing that has had all 32 teams come look at them or one that is getting a big buzz at your school?

Rank Pos First Name Last Name School Rd. Proj.
1 OT Vladimir Ducasse Massachusetts 2nd-3rd
Vlad is truly a monster...last Saturday, the Boston Globe, which never covers anything UMass except in passing, did a great story on him that was three pages long on the web site...that is unheard of for a single UMass player...

6'5", 328...and for the last three years protected Liam Coen's blind side...co-captain this year...

According to the Globe, each NFL team has sent a minimum of two scouts to practices and games just to see him...the KC Director of Player personnel spent two days at UMass to watch him...

Vlad will play on Sundays.... :nod:
That is why he is number one on my board. There is a shot he lands in the second round from what I am hearing. He is a current 4th round value on my personal board but his upside has some teams willing to reach into the 2nd round for him because he has loads of potential.

Re: Top 50 FCS Prospects

Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 9:25 pm
by SmallCollegeFBFan
Skjellyfetti wrote:I would think Ryan Perriloux will get drafted fairly high... unless his off the field issues keep teams away from him.
His issues are hurting him. Some teams did not even send a scout in to see him. I think he has solid tools but he is still inconsistent and thus I would be shocked if he was drafted. My sources are telling me 7th round to PFA on him. Some are even saying they would not touch him.

Re: Top 50 FCS Prospects

Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 9:26 pm
by SmallCollegeFBFan
HIU 93 wrote:
SmallCollegeFBFan wrote:Here are the top 50 FCS prospects based on what I have been able to compile. Anyone missing that has had all 32 teams come look at them or one that is getting a big buzz at your school?
Rank Pos First Name Last Name School Rd. Proj.
31 RB William Ford South Carolina State PFA
I would think that is a little low for him.
Teams draft mainly based on their senior tape and he has had an average senior season and the fact he is smaller hurts him as well. I would be surprised if he got drafted unless he does very well in the postseason.

Re: Top 50 FCS Prospects

Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 9:44 pm
by ∞∞∞
SmallCollegeFBFan wrote:Very early to say a punter is a pro prospect. I have not seen Plisco yet but I can tell you that hang time, directional kicking, and technique are more important than leg strength. You can line drive a 60 yard punt and NFL teams would rather someone punt 40 yards and hang the ball in the air for 6 seconds. Another thing too is that there are so few open spots for a punter in the NFL so if you aren't a top 3 or 4 punter in the nation, not punting average but a top 3-4 punter in terms of hang time, technique, leg strength, and directional kicking, or you can't kick field goals and do kickoffs then it is almost impossible to make it.
I've been tellin' people you can't believe the stuff Plisco can pull off without actually seeing it for yourself. His hangtimes average a good 5 seconds right now for 45 yarders. I swear, and any ODU can back me up on this one, Plisco's punts are so ridiculously accurate that it's just plain scary. On multiple occasions this year, the kid punted what looked like a touchback, only have it bounce inside the 10 and literally take a 90 degree bounce to the side. His spiral is reportedly a tough one to catch too and we've seen a few of them dropped already. Obviously I haven't experienced the process of catching it, but looking at it fly, it's got this weird wobble to it when it's in the air that I've never seen before...I can't really explain it. It kinda goes up and down and side to side at same time like a boat, but it's spinning like a bullet as well. Again, you gotta just watch this kid to believe it. Honestly, ODUfanrazor is pretty spot on. This kid, AS A FRESHMAN, might legitly challenge some punters in the NFL in distance and accuracy, as well as technique. Hangtime can improve though, but he's got A LOT of time left.

Here's a story about him: http://hamptonroads.com/2009/10/odu-pun ... ot-forward

I saw him at dinner one time and jokingly told him to "Aim High" (Bobby Wilder's motto at ODU), and Plisco replies "...and long!" :lol: