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Posted: **Wed Dec 16, 2009 9:24 am**

Highest-rated FCS game ever:

http://www.goasu.com/ViewArticle.dbml?D ... =204858434

Posted: **Wed Dec 16, 2009 10:05 am**

Posted: **Wed Dec 16, 2009 11:25 am**

Great showcase for FCS

Posted: **Wed Dec 16, 2009 11:44 am**

I've got a buddy who works for Disney-ABC Television Group out of Los Angeles (actually Burbank) and he said that ESPN was absolutely thrilled with that Saturdays slot...

#1
The only complaints were related to more lights - the guys in the Sat-Truck noted that in the late 4th quarter the white screen light settings were producing 13.5 foot lamberts (where the broadcast standard is 16) so it was darker than they like working with... which effects the overlays and the white settings and the contrast etc.etc.

#2
and as the game progressed they felt like they needed one more camera angle or a live roaming camera crew with announcer to tour the stands and on the sidelines...

that's all:

Posted: **Wed Dec 16, 2009 11:47 am**

Montana and App State marketing departments need to be lighting up ESPN's phones right now trying to secure at least ESPN Gameplan contracts.

Posted: **Wed Dec 16, 2009 12:18 pm**

This is good news for the home-home games. Maybe ESPN will pick those games up.

Edit: not the ocho, more like 2

Posted: **Wed Dec 16, 2009 12:21 pm**

Anyone know the average ratings for a lower-tier bowl game?

Posted: **Wed Dec 16, 2009 12:25 pm**

Grizalltheway wrote:Anyone know the average ratings for a lower-tier bowl game?

I heard through the grapevine that these ratings were higher than the 6 lowest bowl games last year.

Posted: **Wed Dec 16, 2009 12:26 pm**

Grizalltheway wrote:Anyone know the average ratings for a lower-tier bowl game?

From 2007-2008 FBS Bowl Games

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ESPN2 Bowl Rating Highlights:

# The Papajohns.com Bowl drew 2.2 million households, the most-viewed bowl game on ESPN2 this season and the second highest-rated bowl game on ESPN2, behind only the 2002 GMAC Bowl, which attracted 2.3 million households.
# The R+L Carriers New Orleans Bowl attracted 1.6 million households, becoming the highest-rated and most-viewed New Orleans Bowl dating back to 2001.

http://www.ncaafootball.com/index.php?s ... _well_id=2

... and the complete list is below that, I think.

#

2007-08 Chronological Bowl Results:
(Attendance) & [Household Impressions]:

# San Diego County Credit Union Poinsettia Bowl: Utah 35, Navy 32, ESPN: (39,129) & [1,932,246]
# R+L Carriers New Orleans Bowl: Florida Atlantic 44, Memphis 27, ESPN2: (25,146) & [1,561,000]
# Papajohns.com Bowl: Cincinnati 31, Southern Miss 21, ESPN2: (35,258) & [2,167,420]
# New Mexico Bowl: New Mexico 23, Nevada 0, ESPN: (30,233) & [1,888,695]
# Pioneer PureVision Las Vegas Bowl: Brigham Young 17, UCLA 16, ESPN: (40,712) & [2,390,098]
# Sheraton Hawaii Bowl: East Carolina 41, Boise State 38, ESPN: (30,467) & [1,415,395]
# Motor City Bowl: Purdue 51, Central Michigan 48, ESPN: (60,624) & [2,584,994]
# Pacific Life Holiday Bowl: Texas 52, Arizona State 34, ESPN: (64,020) & [4,223,682]
# Champs Sports Bowl: Boston College 24, Michigan State 21, ESPN: (46,554) & [3,561,309]
# Texas Bowl: TCU 20, Houston 13, NFL Network: (62,097) & [326,650]
# Emerald Bowl: Oregon State 21, Maryland 14, ESPN: (32,517) & [3,463,061]
# Meineke Car Care Bowl: Wake Forest 24, Connecticut 10, ESPN: (53,126) & [3,607,429]
# AutoZone Liberty Bowl: Mississippi State 10, UCF 3, ESPN: (63,816) & [3,986,674]
# Valero Alamo Bowl: Penn State 24, Texas A&M 17, ESPN: (66,166) & [2,568,881]
# PetroSun Independence Bowl: Alabama 30, Colorado 24, ESPN: (47,043) & [1,828,965]
# Bell Helicopter Armed Forces Bowl: California 42, Air Force 36, ESPN: (40,975) & [1,928,556]
# Roady's Humanitarian Bowl: Fresno State 40, Georgia Tech 28, ESPN2: (27,062) & [745,082]
# Brut Sun Bowl: Oregon 56, USF 21, CBS: (49,867) & [2,554,678]
# Gaylord Hotels Music City Bowl: Kentucky 35, Florida State 28, ESPN: (68,681) & [3,883,875]
# Insight Bowl: Oklahoma State 49, Indiana 33, NFL Network: (48,892) & [458,918]
# Chick-Fil-A Bowl: Auburn 23, Clemson 20 (OT), ESPN: (74,413) & [4,919,331]
# Outback Bowl: Tennessee 21, Wisconsin 17, ESPN: (60,121) & [3,260,313]
# AT&T Cotton Bowl: Missouri 38, Arkansas 7, Fox: (73,114) & [3,974,484]
# Konica Minolta Gator Bowl: Texas Tech 31, Virginia 28, CBS: (60,243) & [2,960,799]
# Capital One Bowl: Michigan 41, Florida 35, ABC: (69,748) & [10,301,679]
# Rose Bowl presented by Citi: Southern California 49, Illinois 17, ABC: (93,923) & [12,531,880]
# Allstate Sugar Bowl: Georgia 41, Hawai'i 10, Fox: (74,383) & [7,850,519]
# Tostitos Fiesta Bowl: West Virginia 48, Oklahoma 28, Fox: (70,016) & [8,736,935]
# FedEx Orange Bowl: Kansas 24, Virginia Tech 21, Fox: (74,111) & [8,345,715]
# International Bowl: Rutgers 52, Ball State 30, ESPN: (31,455) & [1,528,141]
# GMAC Bowl: Tulsa 63, Bowling Green 7, ESPN: (36,932) & [1,096,521]
# Allstate BCS National Championship: LSU 38, Ohio State 24, Fox: (79,651) & [16,291,263]

Posted: **Wed Dec 16, 2009 12:26 pm**

Grizalltheway wrote:Anyone know the average ratings for a lower-tier bowl game?

http://tvbythenumbers.com/2009/01/13/nc ... 08-9/10685

Posted: **Wed Dec 16, 2009 12:29 pm**

Based on DJ's #'s, we beat out 13 of the bowls from last year.

Posted: **Wed Dec 16, 2009 12:29 pm**

danefan wrote:
Grizalltheway wrote:Anyone know the average ratings for a lower-tier bowl game?
http://tvbythenumbers.com/2009/01/13/nc ... 08-9/10685

Maybe being on the NFL network had something to do with this, but still

Texas (bowl game) Rice 38, Western Michigan 14 Dec. 30, 8 p.m. NFLN 0.186 (millions of viewers)

Posted: **Wed Dec 16, 2009 12:30 pm**

AZGrizFan wrote:Based on DJ's #'s, we beat out 13 of the bowls from last year.

.... and every bowl game shown on ESPN2

Posted: **Wed Dec 16, 2009 12:40 pm**

Utah, Navy [1,932,246] Florida Atlantic, Memphis [1,561,000] Cincinnati, Southern Miss [2,167,420] New Mexico, Nevada [1,888,695] Brigham Young, UCLA [2,390,098] East Carolina, Boise State [1,415,395] TCU, Houston [326,650] Alabama, Colorado [1,828,965] California, Air Force [1,928,556] Fresno State, Georgia Tech [745,082] Oklahoma State, Indiana [458,918] Rutgers, Ball State [1,528,141] Tulsa, Bowling Green [1,096,521]

Thems some BIGTIME programs that couldn't outdraw Griz/Mountaineers.

Posted: **Wed Dec 16, 2009 12:42 pm**

Grizalltheway wrote:Anyone know the average ratings for a lower-tier bowl game?

Here are last years numbers. This game had more viewers than 7 of last years bowls did (including the two on NFL network), and would've been right between the papajohns.com bowl and the International bowl.

http://tvbythenumbers.com/2009/01/13/nc ... 08-9/10685

Posted: **Wed Dec 16, 2009 12:55 pm**

BisonAccountant44 wrote:
Grizalltheway wrote:Anyone know the average ratings for a lower-tier bowl game?
Here are last years numbers. This game had more viewers than 7 of last years bowls did (including the two on NFL network), and would've been right between the papajohns.com bowl and the International bowl.

http://tvbythenumbers.com/2009/01/13/nc ... 08-9/10685

And, that's with absolutely NO promotion. The only time ESPN mentioned the game was during the Kansas game before it (and the Div. II game on the 2). I'm impressed by the numbers.

Posted: **Wed Dec 16, 2009 12:55 pm**

JMU DJ wrote:
danefan wrote:
http://tvbythenumbers.com/2009/01/13/nc ... 08-9/10685

Maybe being on the NFL network had something to do with this, but still

Texas (bowl game) Rice 38, Western Michigan 14 Dec. 30, 8 p.m. NFLN 0.186 (millions of viewers)

The fact that it was Rice and Western Michigan probably had something to do with it as well.

Posted: **Wed Dec 16, 2009 2:37 pm**

I know the schedule is set well in advance, but why in the hell do they broadcast one semifinal on ESPN and then broadcast the championship on ESPN2? I doubt the Montana-Villanova game will get anywhere near the viewership of the Montana-App St. game. Sure, there'll be a bunch of Montanans tuning in, but let's face it, that's not a whole lot of people and Nova's fan base is small. I'm sure some non-partisan football fans who happened to watch the App St. game might tune in out of interest along with some FCS fans in general, but it seems like if ESPN really wanted to showcase this game they would put it on the flagship station and promote the crap out of it. Instead, it seems like they're relegating it to the back burner (FYI- they are showing the Bucks-Cavaliers game on ESPN in the same time slot).

Posted: **Wed Dec 16, 2009 3:02 pm**

SouthDakotaGrizzly wrote:I know the schedule is set well in advance, but why in the hell do they broadcast one semifinal on ESPN and then broadcast the championship on ESPN2? I doubt the Montana-Villanova game will get anywhere near the viewership of the Montana-App St. game. Sure, there'll be a bunch of Montanans tuning in, but let's face it, that's not a whole lot of people and Nova's fan base is small. I'm sure some non-partisan football fans who happened to watch the App St. game might tune in out of interest along with some FCS fans in general, but it seems like if ESPN really wanted to showcase this game they would put it on the flagship station and promote the crap out of it. Instead, it seems like they're relegating it to the back burner (FYI- they are showing the Bucks-Cavaliers game on ESPN in the same time slot).

Contractual obligations for sure. No way the NBA contract allows for anything other than the Friday night NBA game to be put on. That game will probably draw way more than the FCS game anyway.

This might all change next year when the game gets moved to January. There will be more playoff games televised. I wish I could find the TV schedule for next year.

Posted: **Wed Dec 16, 2009 4:42 pm**

I think it had a lot to do with the fact that there are more FCS fans than these people realize and those that couldn't be there, watched it on TV, if they could.

Somebody, in some meeting, some time is going to bring up these very figures. You can bet money on it. Not saying anything will come of it but it will probably open some eyes.

Posted: **Wed Dec 16, 2009 8:39 pm**

Chizzang wrote:
#1
The only complaints were related to more lights - the guys in the Sat-Truck noted that in the late 4th quarter the white screen light settings were producing 13.5 foot lamberts (where the broadcast standard is 16) so it was darker than they like working with... which effects the overlays and the white settings and the contrast etc.etc.

Ursus and myself talked at length about this very same thing during the 3rd Qtr, and couldn't understand the reasoning behind it.

I had my sunglasses on the entire game, and never realized it had gotten dark...thinking the entire time, "maybe they should have brought in more lights, but I kept that thought to myself until now!??!

Posted: **Wed Dec 16, 2009 8:50 pm**

The broadcast of the 24-17 thriller drew a 1.9 rating (4 share) and an estimated 2,547,000 viewers nationwide. The 1.9 rating is highest ever for an FCS postseason game on CBS, ESPN or ESPN2.

Has there really been an FCS game on CBS?

Posted: **Thu Dec 17, 2009 3:14 am**

slycat wrote:
The broadcast of the 24-17 thriller drew a 1.9 rating (4 share) and an estimated 2,547,000 viewers nationwide. The 1.9 rating is highest ever for an FCS postseason game on CBS, ESPN or ESPN2.
Has there really been an FCS game on CBS?

Yeah, your Texas State Bobcats were actually one of the teams shown.

Montana has a contract with the local CBS affiliate to broadcast all their regular season games and any games ESPN doesn't go after in the playoffs then the local CBS will show them. Now, nationally...I don't know but probably not...

Posted: **Thu Dec 17, 2009 6:40 am**

SouthDakotaGrizzly wrote:I know the schedule is set well in advance, but why in the hell do they broadcast one semifinal on ESPN and then broadcast the championship on ESPN2? I doubt the Montana-Villanova game will get anywhere near the viewership of the Montana-App St. game.

The biggest reason ... Montana-Villanova just isn't as compelling a game as App St - Montana.

Posted: **Thu Dec 17, 2009 4:05 pm**

DoubleNicks wrote:
slycat wrote:
Has there really been an FCS game on CBS?
Yeah, your Texas State Bobcats were actually one of the teams shown. Montana has a contract with the local CBS affiliate to broadcast all their regular season games and any games ESPN doesn't go after in the playoffs then the local CBS will show them. Now, nationally...I don't know but probably not...

Thats a sweet deal y'all got going.

I watched the above mentioned game online. It was fun for a half.

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