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What is the future of Patriot League football?

Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2010 8:20 pm
by Go...gate
This was a continuing debate on the AGS board, so it makes sense to pick it up here. I don't know how many other PL posters have migrated here, however.

Re: What is the future of Patriot League football?

Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2010 8:22 pm
by dbackjon
There aré a few, but we need more. Hopefully they will find their way here.

Re: What is the future of Patriot League football?

Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 7:24 am
by DetroitFlyer
Adopt the PFL/IVY model, say "bye-bye" to Fordham and play ball! Obviously, more games with the PFL and IVY, and less with the "State U's" of the FCS world. Sure seems simple to me....

Re: What is the future of Patriot League football?

Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 8:34 am
by henfan
DetroitFlyer wrote:Adopt the PFL/IVY model, say "bye-bye" to Fordham and play ball! Obviously, more games with the PFL and IVY, and less with the "State U's" of the FCS world. Sure seems simple to me....
How has the philosophy of playing more Ivys and less State U's worked out for the PL so far, both competitively and financially? Has that idea enhanced PL membership stability?

These are questions the PL would likely have to answer before considering what would certainly be a convenient ('simple'?) solution.

Re: What is the future of Patriot League football?

Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 8:39 am
by dbackjon
Patriot League is in a pickle, IMHO.

The loss of Fordham puts the League at what, 6 members? The minimium for auto-bid.

The five All-sports PL members, no problem. I'd worry about Georgetown, though.

Replacements? None really come to mind. The new rules on moving up preclude a quick fix from any of the "equals" in DIII, not sure if there are any in DII that would fit.

Re: What is the future of Patriot League football?

Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 8:45 am
by danefan
I don't think Fordham is going anywhere anytime soon.

I think 2010 will be the status-quo for PL teams and then I believe they will follow suit with what they did in bball and implement a do as you want approach.

This will ultimately cause a huge variation in talent in the league (as if there wasn't already one) and will cause Georgetown to leave the PL for the PFL, despite what some G'Town posters say, I think its inevitable.

Re: What is the future of Patriot League football?

Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 9:15 am
by RichH
I would not expect any startling changes this year or next. The June meeting will set the future agenda. What that will be is anyones' guess.

Re: What is the future of Patriot League football?

Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 9:17 am
by danefan
RichH wrote:I would not expect any startling changes this year or next. The June meeting will set the future agenda. What that will be is anyones' guess.
Welcome Rich!

I believe you are the first Lehigh poster we have. We've got Lafayette, Lehigh and Colgate guys. Now we need get some HC and G'Town posters. I don't know if Bucknell ever had any posters on AGS.

Re: What is the future of Patriot League football?

Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 9:43 am
by dbackjon
danefan wrote:
RichH wrote:I would not expect any startling changes this year or next. The June meeting will set the future agenda. What that will be is anyones' guess.
Welcome Rich!

I believe you are the first Lehigh poster we have. We've got Lafayette, Lehigh and Colgate guys. Now we need get some HC and G'Town posters. I don't know if Bucknell ever had any posters on AGS.
Welcome Rich as well.

kardplayer (Lehigh) occasionally posts.

Re: What is the future of Patriot League football?

Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 9:44 am
by danefan
dbackjon wrote:
danefan wrote: Welcome Rich!

I believe you are the first Lehigh poster we have. We've got Lafayette, Lehigh and Colgate guys. Now we need get some HC and G'Town posters. I don't know if Bucknell ever had any posters on AGS.
Welcome Rich as well.

kardplayer (Lehigh) occasionally posts.
Oh yeah, right I forgot about kardplayer.....sorry buddy. He does live like 10 minutes from me too. :lol:

BTW, I just sent an email to Chuck Burton asking him to come over and post. He's always good for stirring up some PL convo. :thumb:

Re: What is the future of Patriot League football?

Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 9:49 am
by Pard94
Just taking the opportunity to splash around in the new pool. Not much new to add on this topic which has been well covered.

Re: What is the future of Patriot League football?

Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 9:53 am
by danefan
Pard94 wrote:Just taking the opportunity to splash around in the new pool. Not much new to add on this topic which has been well covered.
Welcome Pard! Another Lafayette poster....... :thumb: :thumb:

And more East Coasters!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Re: What is the future of Patriot League football?

Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 10:02 am
by dbackjon
Pard94 wrote:Just taking the opportunity to splash around in the new pool. Not much new to add on this topic which has been well covered.
Welcome!!

Re: What is the future of Patriot League football?

Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 11:07 am
by Franks Tanks
DetroitFlyer wrote:Adopt the PFL/IVY model, say "bye-bye" to Fordham and play ball! Obviously, more games with the PFL and IVY, and less with the "State U's" of the FCS world. Sure seems simple to me....
It isnt really possible for PL schools to schedule more Ivy games. Lafayete has 4 Ivy games scheduled for the next 100 years as far as I can tell. We have been playing Penn, Harvard, and Columbia nearly every year for the last 15 years. (Penn and Columbia longer than that). We also regularly have Princeton and sometimes Yale on the schedule.

We appear to have limited or no expansion targets. Whether Fordham stays or goes I have no idea. But the rest of the league appears to be staying put despite many rumors from fans.

Re: What is the future of Patriot League football?

Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 11:12 am
by Pard94
The least they could do is throw in some more Dartmouth games so I could attend. Better still UNH...I can dream can't I?

Re: What is the future of Patriot League football?

Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 12:12 pm
by Franks Tanks
Pard94 wrote:The least they could do is throw in some more Dartmouth games so I could attend. Better still UNH...I can dream can't I?
My Freshman year we had Brown and Dartmouth on the schedule, and that was the last time we played either team. They seem to like playing Holy Cross and Colgate, but a little Ivy variety would be nice.

Re: What is the future of Patriot League football?

Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 12:35 pm
by AZGrizFan
danefan wrote:
Pard94 wrote:Just taking the opportunity to splash around in the new pool. Not much new to add on this topic which has been well covered.
Welcome Pard! Another Lafayette poster....... :thumb: :thumb:

And more East Coasters!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
:ohno: :ohno: :ohno: :ohno:

This place is going to hell in a handbasket. :thumbdown:

Re: What is the future of Patriot League football?

Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 10:08 pm
by ngineer
I feel like I just walked into the Crapsville Bar...Where's Hattie? What the heck happened? I'm seeing some familiar faces...not completely focused..gotta get my feet wet, but nice to see some familiar 'faces'...Gotta tilt this place more to the 'east' ;) I'll paddle around a bit and see how this place works. Seeing the Subject made me 'smile', but followed by a shaking of the head. I agree with a prior post, that we won't hear anything about this until the June meeting.

Re: What is the future of Patriot League football?

Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 10:16 pm
by dbackjon
Welcome ngineer!! Good to see you here!!

Re: What is the future of Patriot League football?

Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 10:25 pm
by Grizalltheway
:agree:

Re: What is the future of Patriot League football?

Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 11:22 pm
by Fresno St. Alum
rumors are if the PL needs members it might offer Marist and or VMI an all sports spot.

Re: What is the future of Patriot League football?

Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 11:47 pm
by Go...gate
Fresno St. Alum wrote:rumors are if the PL needs members it might offer Marist and or VMI an all sports spot.
I have heard this as well.

Re: What is the future of Patriot League football?

Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2010 6:32 am
by Franks Tanks
Fresno St. Alum wrote:rumors are if the PL needs members it might offer Marist and or VMI an all sports spot.
VMI and/or Marist would be quality additions to the PL

Re: What is the future of Patriot League football?

Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2010 6:54 am
by DetroitFlyer
Maybe the PFL can trade Marist to the PL for Georgetown and a future draft pick.... :D

Re: What is the future of Patriot League football?

Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2010 7:21 am
by OL FU
Someone explain. What is the Patriot League :?



You mean there are other conferences besides the BSC and the CAA :? :D


Welcome to you Northeasterners :thumb: