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Minnesota and Kansas St. back to back- OUCH

BOZEMAN, Mont. -- Montana State opens and closes its regular
season against Grizzlies, and in between faces a pair of schools from
BCS leagues, two regional non-league foes, and a challenging Big Sky
slate, MSU Athletic Director Peter Fields announced Tuesday.
The Bobcats' August 30 opener against the Adams State Grizzlies
matches the earliest season-opening date in school history, and the
Bobcats follow that contest with visits to national power Kansas State
(September 6) and Big 10 foe Minnesota (September 13). MSU closes its
non-league slate hosting South Dakota on September 27.
The Bobcats open league play at Idaho State, its most-common
league-opening opponent, then hosts Weber State for Homecoming on
October 11 and Eastern Washington for Family Weekend a week later. The
Bobcats also host Northern Colorado and Portland State in Big Sky games,
visiting Sacramento State and Northern Arizona before the season-ending
Cat-Griz game.


2008 Montana State Football Schedule
Date Opponent, Time, Site
A30 Adams State, 1:05 pm, Bozeman
S6 at Kansas State, TBA, Manhattan, KS
S13 at Minnesota, TBA, Minneapolis, MN
S20 Open
S27 South Dakota (Hall of Fame), 1:05 pm, Bozeman
O4 *at Idaho State, TBA, Pocatello, ID
O11 *Weber State (Homecoming), 1:35 pm, Bozeman
O18 *Eastern Wash. (Family Wkd), 1:05 pm, Bozeman
O25 *at Sacramento State, 2:05 PDT, Sacramento, CA
N1 *Northern Colorado, 12:05 pm, Bozeman
N8 *at Northern Arizona, 3:05 pm, Flagstaff, AZ
N15 *Portland State, 12:05 pm, Bozeman
N22 *at Montana, 12:05 pm, Missoula, MT
*-Big Sky Conference game
All games Mountain Time unless otherwise noted

Well they took a while to get er out but it looks like the AD is trying to make sure that the only way for you guys to get a playoff bid is to win the conferene. That's a tough slate to make the playoffs with 2 non counters that you hope will be wins but even if they are won't count toward the playoffs and the other two FBS teams being a 1-1 thing if the Cats play very solid ball. The Coyotes could be a dangerous team for the Cats especially in the placement on the schedule. Considering the date maybe they are pulling a joke on the website to get Cat fans in an uproar. Any idea what the payouts are gonna be from the Big 10 schools?

South Dakota - won't they count as a D-I win, since they are in the first year of transition?

Tough schedule, but you have Weber, EWU and PSU at home, which will help.

I can see 8-4/6-2, which COULD be enough.

GOKATS wrote:Minnesota and Kansas St. back to back- OUCH

BOZEMAN, Mont. -- Montana State opens and closes its regular
season against Grizzlies, and in between faces a pair of schools from
BCS leagues, two regional non-league foes, and a challenging Big Sky
slate, MSU Athletic Director Peter Fields announced Tuesday.
The Bobcats' August 30 opener against the Adams State Grizzlies
matches the earliest season-opening date in school history, and the
Bobcats follow that contest with visits to national power Kansas State
(September 6) and Big 10 foe Minnesota (September 13). MSU closes its
non-league slate hosting South Dakota on September 27.
The Bobcats open league play at Idaho State, its most-common
league-opening opponent, then hosts Weber State for Homecoming on
October 11 and Eastern Washington for Family Weekend a week later. The
Bobcats also host Northern Colorado and Portland State in Big Sky games,
visiting Sacramento State and Northern Arizona before the season-ending
Cat-Griz game.


2008 Montana State Football Schedule
Date Opponent, Time, Site
A30 Adams State, 1:05 pm, Bozeman
S6 at Kansas State, TBA, Manhattan, KS
S13 at Minnesota, TBA, Minneapolis, MN
S20 Open
S27 South Dakota (Hall of Fame), 1:05 pm, Bozeman
O4 *at Idaho State, TBA, Pocatello, ID
O11 *Weber State (Homecoming), 1:35 pm, Bozeman
O18 *Eastern Wash. (Family Wkd), 1:05 pm, Bozeman
O25 *at Sacramento State, 2:05 PDT, Sacramento, CA
N1 *Northern Colorado, 12:05 pm, Bozeman
N8 *at Northern Arizona, 3:05 pm, Flagstaff, AZ
N15 *Portland State, 12:05 pm, Bozeman
N22 *at Montana, 12:05 pm, Missoula, MT
*-Big Sky Conference game
All games Mountain Time unless otherwise noted

Adams State, huh? Finally found a Grizzlies team you actually have a shot at beating?

You think THAT's bad? Try this on for size:

In the first five weeks: @ Fresneck, @ Arizona, @ Nebraska, @ Oregon, vs. Oregon State

That was UOP's 1995 opening schedule. Admittedly, the Big West at the time was technically I-A, but Sagarin ranked the conference behind the Big Sky. How UOP conned OSU (which did really whomp at the time) into coming to Stockton I'll never know, but somehow we beat them there. But those games beat us up so bad that we finished 3-8 (including 1-4 in that horrendous bodybag portion).

SuperHornet wrote:You think THAT's bad? Try this on for size:

In the first five weeks: @ Fresneck, @ Arizona, @ Nebraska, @ Oregon, vs. Oregon State

That was UOP's 1995 opening schedule.

UOP - a school that still should have football. It would be a nice rivalry/series for Sac St, UC-Davis and UOP all to play FCS football.

Ursus A. Horribilis wrote: Any idea what the payouts are gonna be from the Big 10 schools?

Nothing confirmed, but probably $700-800,000 between the two.

GOKATS wrote:

Ursus A. Horribilis wrote: Any idea what the payouts are gonna be from the Big 10 schools?

Nothing confirmed, but probably $700-800,000 between the two.

Is Montana State hurting that bad for cash?

dbackjon wrote:South Dakota - won't they count as a D-I win, since they are in the first year of transition?

Tough schedule, but you have Weber, EWU and PSU at home, which will help.

I can see 8-4/6-2, which COULD be enough.

Teams in their first year of transition count as DII opponents for DI teams. So MSU would have to win 9 games to be eligible for an at-large (unless they lose to a lower team & beat an FBS opponent).

Mvemjsunpx wrote:

dbackjon wrote:South Dakota - won't they count as a D-I win, since they are in the first year of transition?

Tough schedule, but you have Weber, EWU and PSU at home, which will help.

I can see 8-4/6-2, which COULD be enough.

Teams in their first year of transition count as DII opponents for DI teams. So MSU would have to win 9 games to be eligible for an at-large (unless they lose to a lower team & beat an FBS opponent).

Thanks.

A team, according to the rules, can still be picked with less than 7 D-I wins, just makes it very, very difficult.

GOKATS wrote:

Ursus A. Horribilis wrote: Any idea what the payouts are gonna be from the Big 10 schools?

Nothing confirmed, but probably $700-800,000 between the two.

I just will never understand an AD AUTOMATICALLY scheduling such that it requires the team to go out and go undefeated in conference (just about) to have any shot at the playoffs.

Do these guys not know the rules, or what?

dbackjon wrote:

SuperHornet wrote:You think THAT's bad? Try this on for size:

In the first five weeks: @ Fresneck, @ Arizona, @ Nebraska, @ Oregon, vs. Oregon State

That was UOP's 1995 opening schedule.

UOP - a school that still should have football. It would be a nice rivalry/series for Sac St, UC-Davis and UOP all to play FCS football.

Given that I was a redshirt QB on that UOP team, I wholeheartedly agree with you. But it's not going to happen with the idiot in charge nor his sycophant AD. Incidentally, Sac's former OL coach and current UCLA TEs coach Angus McClure never lets me forget that he was on the only two Sac teams ever to beat UOP. That's a nice followup story.

dbackjon wrote:
Thanks.

A team, according to the rules, can still be picked with less than 7 D-I wins, just makes it very, very difficult.

I think the only reason they don't have that as a hard & fast rule is just in case there aren't enough teams left with 7 DI wins to fill the slots. I'm pretty sure that's the only way a committee will look at a 6 DI win team.

AZGrizFan wrote:

GOKATS wrote: Nothing confirmed, but probably $700-800,000 between the two.

I just will never understand an AD AUTOMATICALLY scheduling such that it requires the team to go out and go undefeated in conference (just about) to have any shot at the playoffs.

Do these guys not know the rules, or what?

Kansas St. wasn't planned, it just happened. K St. just dropped Fresno St. from their schedule which left them an opening- don't know the details but the Cats receivers coach is a former QB at K St., might've had something to do with it.