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Hofstra Resurrection?

Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2010 12:11 pm
by ngineer
I heard in speaking with a former Flying Dutchman that Hofstra may 'swallow its Pride' and return football. Anyone else hear of such an effort? Supposedly, a fairly strong alumni reaction to the decision..Maybe some alum has come up with some bucks... :?

Re: Hofstra Resurrection?

Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2010 12:21 pm
by danefan
I know there was a pretty solid alumni reaction.




This guys leads the charge

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Re: Hofstra Resurrection?

Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2010 12:21 pm
by dbackjon
That would be great if they could

Re: Hofstra Resurrection?

Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2010 12:23 pm
by Col Hogan
dbackjon wrote:That would be great if they could
Vast majority of the players who wanted to continue playing have already transfered...can they simply transfer back? Would their new school have to release them from their scholly???

Re: Hofstra Resurrection?

Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2010 12:25 pm
by danefan
Col Hogan wrote:
dbackjon wrote:That would be great if they could
Vast majority of the players who wanted to continue playing have already transfered...can they simply transfer back? Would their new school have to release them from their scholly???
I'd be wiling to bet it would come back in non-scholarship form and start from scratch if it were to come back at all.

Re: Hofstra Resurrection?

Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2010 12:27 pm
by Col Hogan
danefan wrote:
Col Hogan wrote:
Vast majority of the players who wanted to continue playing have already transfered...can they simply transfer back? Would their new school have to release them from their scholly???
I'd be wiling to bet it would come back in non-scholarship form and start from scratch if it were to come back at all.
That I could see...

Re: Hofstra Resurrection?

Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2010 12:28 pm
by JMUDuke2002
I would imagine Hofstra would have to start fresh. I doubt anything would happen for this coming season since the conference has already changed schedules and signing day is over with. Plus, spring practice starts soon on many campuses. So, if football were to be resurrected, which I highly doubt, I think we're looking at Hofstra coming back in 2011 at the earliest.

Re: Hofstra Resurrection?

Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2010 12:43 pm
by jd of de
JMUDuke2002 wrote:I would imagine Hofstra would have to start fresh. I doubt anything would happen for this coming season since the conference has already changed schedules and signing day is over with. Plus, spring practice starts soon on many campuses. So, if football were to be resurrected, which I highly doubt, I think we're looking at Hofstra coming back in 2011 at the earliest.
FCS or Div II?

Re: Hofstra Resurrection?

Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2010 12:49 pm
by danefan
jd of de wrote:
JMUDuke2002 wrote:I would imagine Hofstra would have to start fresh. I doubt anything would happen for this coming season since the conference has already changed schedules and signing day is over with. Plus, spring practice starts soon on many campuses. So, if football were to be resurrected, which I highly doubt, I think we're looking at Hofstra coming back in 2011 at the earliest.
FCS or Div II?
Couldn't be DII. Hofstra is ever going to downgrade basketball, lacrosse or wrestling.

I think the only way it comes back is to come back FCS in the PFL.

Re: Hofstra Resurrection?

Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2010 1:25 pm
by mcveyrl
danefan wrote:
jd of de wrote:
FCS or Div II?
Couldn't be DII. Hofstra is ever going to downgrade basketball, lacrosse or wrestling.

I think the only way it comes back is to come back FCS in the PFL.
This just illustrates what I (and others) have said before. If you're an administration and you are considering dropping football, you HAVE to look at what you're really doing. The best example is ETSU. Dropped it, a few years later tried to bring it back: too expensive, no conference, etc. By dropping football you are royal f'ing your program. It's gone as you knew it for many, many years. You can't take a two year break and then get back to business.

Re: Hofstra Resurrection?

Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2010 1:32 pm
by jd of de
Patriot League makes sense.

Re: Hofstra Resurrection?

Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2010 2:28 pm
by Seahawks
jd of de wrote:
JMUDuke2002 wrote:I would imagine Hofstra would have to start fresh. I doubt anything would happen for this coming season since the conference has already changed schedules and signing day is over with. Plus, spring practice starts soon on many campuses. So, if football were to be resurrected, which I highly doubt, I think we're looking at Hofstra coming back in 2011 at the earliest.
FCS or Div II?

They can't play Div II football with their Div I basketball program.

I haven't seen anything about this in the local newspapers.

Re: Hofstra Resurrection?

Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2010 2:43 pm
by bluehenbillk
I'd be shocked if it came back in any form anytime soon. Rabinowitz would have a lot of egg on his face. To be truthful, at no time in its FCS tenure did HU ever have a half-sizable fanbase, which was the primary reason for it being axed. Who's going to come see a club team or a non-scholly team??

Re: Hofstra Resurrection?

Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2010 3:16 pm
by SuperHornet
It shouldn't be THAT big a deal provided that the previous coaching staff (or a preponderance thereof) is still available and willing. They MAY have to scramble to recruit or go the route USF did in starting up (i.e. spend a fall practicing with no games). The two biggest hurdles (to me) would be getting the coaching staff and recruiting.

The schollie thing shouldn't be a huge issue if Hofstra handled it like UOP did. For those players who had a schollie at the time of the collapse (naturally, I didn't), UOP honored those schollies, even for those who left to complete their eligibility elsewhere. Many of those returned and got UOP degrees on the school's dime. Unfortunately for me, that didn't work because I was a bloody walk-on with no real shot at seeing the field anyway....

Re: Hofstra Resurrection?

Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2010 3:18 pm
by SuperHornet
bluehenbillk wrote:Who's going to come see...a non-scholly team??
Ask Davis. They supported a non-scholly (or very close to it) D-II program for years before they moved up. It wasn't just when they were whipping Sac's tail that they showed up, either.

Re: Hofstra Resurrection?

Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2010 9:51 pm
by ngineer
danefan wrote:
Col Hogan wrote:
Vast majority of the players who wanted to continue playing have already transfered...can they simply transfer back? Would their new school have to release them from their scholly???
I'd be wiling to bet it would come back in non-scholarship form and start from scratch if it were to come back at all.

If it does,,,,Hello Patriot League!!

Re: Hofstra Resurrection?

Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2010 10:00 pm
by LastMinuteman
jd of de wrote:Patriot League makes sense.
These words don't normally go together in this order.

Re: Hofstra Resurrection?

Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2010 11:20 pm
by Go...gate
jd of de wrote:Patriot League makes sense.
Yes. It would correct an error made many years ago by the PL.

Re: Hofstra Resurrection?

Posted: Sat Mar 06, 2010 7:36 pm
by Seawolf97
I dont think we will see it in any form. The entire program has been dismantled. Recruiting and hiring a new coaching staff would be a nigtmare. Who would want to risk playing or working in that environment not knowing if the program would be cancelled again.

Re: Hofstra Resurrection?

Posted: Sat Mar 06, 2010 8:36 pm
by SDHornet
This support should have been around BEFORE the program was dismantled. :coffee:

Re: Hofstra Resurrection?

Posted: Sat Mar 06, 2010 10:02 pm
by SUUTbird
SDHornet wrote:This support should have been around BEFORE the program was dismantled. :coffee:
Exactly the effort in order to restore the program would take twice the effort now then it would have been trying to keep the program afloat. This support comes to late as SD said and i also am wondering how many of these "concerned alumni" would actually attend the games :twocents:

Re: Hofstra Resurrection?

Posted: Sat Mar 06, 2010 10:57 pm
by MrTitleist
Seems like Hofstra should have investigated the PL option before completely cutting football.. if they could have cut some scholarships, maybe they could have kept the program afloat..

Re: Hofstra Resurrection?

Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2010 5:46 am
by danefan
MrTitleist wrote:Seems like Hofstra should have investigated the PL option before completely cutting football.. if they could have cut some scholarships, maybe they could have kept the program afloat..
Hofstra and Northeastern really should have considered the NEC before they disbanded. They could have cut their expenses in more than half, especially with travel. And they still would have had access to the playoffs with the NEC's AQ. I have to imagine the NEC would have accepted them as associate members and the CAA probably would have been fine with since the NEC is a limited scholarship league right now.

Re: Hofstra Resurrection?

Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2010 5:55 am
by jd of de
SUUTbird wrote:
SDHornet wrote:This support should have been around BEFORE the program was dismantled. :coffee:
Exactly the effort in order to restore the program would take twice the effort now then it would have been trying to keep the program afloat. This support comes to late as SD said and i also am wondering how many of these "concerned alumni" would actually attend the games :twocents:
2009 Season Tickets sold ....... 172
Alumni ........................ 118,000

Re: Hofstra Resurrection?

Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2010 10:02 am
by MrTitleist
danefan wrote:
MrTitleist wrote:Seems like Hofstra should have investigated the PL option before completely cutting football.. if they could have cut some scholarships, maybe they could have kept the program afloat..
Hofstra and Northeastern really should have considered the NEC before they disbanded. They could have cut their expenses in more than half, especially with travel. And they still would have had access to the playoffs with the NEC's AQ. I have to imagine the NEC would have accepted them as associate members and the CAA probably would have been fine with since the NEC is a limited scholarship league right now.
Agreed. NEC would have been a better fit. I was actually thinking of Albany when I wrote my original post. I'm guessing both programs could have been saved had they explored options instead of just immediately axing them.