Rank the QBs of the CAA

[jmu-fan-1981]

Here are my top 5 but I am not too familiar with some of the other QBs in the CAA so its a little skewed. Any thoughts?

1.Aaron Corp - Richmond
2.Pat Devlin - Delaware
3.Drew Dudzik - James Madison
4.Chris Whitney - Villanova
5.Justin Thorpe - James Madison

[TribeNomad]

Corp has yet to take a snap at the FCS level so I would not put him in there yet.

Devlin looks great when he has the time to throw, I think he will look much better this year if he gets support.

Whitney is a proven winner.

Thorpe has potential, and certainly has the physical tools, but needs to learn how to be a QB.

[93henfan]

1.Aaron Corp - Richmond

Based on what?

[DSUrocks07]

1.Aaron Corp - Richmond

Based on what?

hype of course...

[andy7171]

Based on past performances, I'd have Whitney #1 and Dudzik and Devlin 2a and 2b.

I saw the JC transfer Chris Hart at the Towson black and gold game. If he lightens up his throws he'll be a good one. He certainly has the wheels.

[Rob Iola]

Based on past performances, I'd have Whitney #1 and Dudzik and Devlin 2a and 2b.

I saw the JC transfer Chris Hart at the Towson black and gold game. If he lightens up his throws he'll be a good one. He certainly has the wheels.

I thought Towson's colors were black and blue?

[mcveyrl]

Based on past performances, I'd have Whitney #1 and Dudzik and Devlin 2a and 2b.

I saw the JC transfer Chris Hart at the Towson black and gold game. If he lightens up his throws he'll be a good one. He certainly has the wheels.

Yea, I was just thinkin that Whitney is definitely above Dudz. Especially when you factor in the injury factor. I just think Dudzik's too fragile. You probably have to combine Dudzik and Thorpe in the rankings. Mine would probably go Whitney, then Devlin a close second, with DudThorpe and Toman neck and neck for third. I would put Corps, whoever emerges from the W&M QB race and Hart together as unprovens with a ton of upside (that's right, upside, worst. word. ever.)

I'm not very educated on the Maine and UMass QB situation either. I'm assuming Rhode Island will have a QB this year, but I don't know anything about that either.

[93henfan]

C'mon guys. No offense, but let's be real. It's Devlin #1 and then the rest in whatever order you choose.

[Silenoz]

Did Toman really suck last year? Seems like he should be up there ahead of someone who has yet to take a snap, or a JMU backup

[Tribe4SF]

Have to agree that Devlin is #1. Whitney a close second. The rest are just a pack, including Toman who had some tough times last year. Corp and Paulus bring the pedigree, but neither has even secured a job yet.

[happyappy99]

I'm shocked that none of the W&M folks are throwing Paulus into this mix!

[jstclmet]

Here's what I wrote on the CAAZONE

Having had the opportunity to talk to 8 head coaches and 2 SID's, I have a little better idea on how the QB's can be ranked. This also takes into account the OL's that will be protecting them.

Whitney has to be #1 because of all of the talent he has around him (YES, SZCZUR'S COMING BACK), his ability to run and pass, coaching schemes, and protection.

Devlin would be my #2, as the Blue Hens probably have the second best OL in the CAA.

Toman is #3 right now, but by a slim margin.

Smith/Treister (yet TBD, but Smith has slight advantage) #4.

Paul-Etienne #5 has the athleticism, not sure he has the blocking.

Dudzik, #6, unfortunately does not have a great OL in front of him. Hopefully, his OL can reach the level of average.

Havens, #7, nudges out Athens as he has the better team.

Athens, #8, is probably the better QB than Havens, but his OL is still young.

Corp, #9, is a talented QB, he just doesn't have a line to protect him.

W&M QB, #10, TBD, None of them are ready to start.

[93henfan]

Here's what I wrote on the CAAZONE

Having had the opportunity to talk to 8 head coaches and 2 SID's, I have a little better idea on how the QB's can be ranked. This also takes into account the OL's that will be protecting them.

Whitney has to be #1 because of all of the talent he has around him (YES, SZCZUR'S COMING BACK), his ability to run and pass, coaching schemes, and protection.

Devlin would be my #2, as the Blue Hens probably have the second best OL in the CAA.

Toman is #3 right now, but by a slim margin.

Smith/Treister (yet TBD, but Smith has slight advantage) #4.

Paul-Etienne #5 has the athleticism, not sure he has the blocking.

Dudzik, #6, unfortunately does not have a great OL in front of him. Hopefully, his OL can reach the level of average.

Havens, #7, nudges out Athens as he has the better team.

Athens, #8, is probably the better QB than Havens, but his OL is still young.

Corp, #9, is a talented QB, he just doesn't have a line to protect him.

W&M QB, #10, TBD, None of them are ready to start.

If Delaware has the second best OL in the CAA, that's a pretty sad indictment of the rest of the conference. OL has been holding Delaware back for a few years now. As far as Whitney goes, I'm OK with your list, since you qualified it as being based on the talent around him. In a vacuum, Devlin is a way better quarterback, IMHO.

[Fact]

1. Chris Whitney- A lot has to be said for a quarterback who takes a regular beating like he does, completes an absurd percentage of his passes, runs like a fullback, and has only lost five games as a starter (national championship, 3-0 record against UD.) Whitney's second half against Temple is one of the greatest performances by a college quarterback I've ever seen.
2. Devlin- Not quite Flacco, but still very good. If I was going to install a pass first offense there is no question that I would pick him first, but the ability to tuck it and run is far too important in the playoffs when it gets hard to throw the ball which is why I give Whitney the (slight) edge.
3. The rest.. Inconsequential what order until guys prove themselves.

[jstclmet]

93henfan

If Delaware has the second best OL in the CAA, that's a pretty sad indictment of the rest of the conference. OL has been holding Delaware back for a few years now. As far as Whitney goes, I'm OK with your list, since you qualified it as being based on the talent around him. In a vacuum, Devlin is a way better quarterback, IMHO

There are a ton of talented QB's (very highly ranked) who have never won a ring. Take Dan Marino. Great QB, but no rings, although he did get to the dance once. You also have guys that were not as talented (Dilfer) or over the hill (Plunkett) who have rings.

At the end of the day, which would you rather have, a proven winner, the guy with the ring, or the super talented, but no ring wearing guy.

[93henfan]

There are a ton of talented QB's (very highly ranked) who have never won a ring. Take Dan Marino. Great QB, but no rings, although he did get to the dance once. You also have guys that were not as talented (Dilfer) or over the hill (Plunkett) who have rings.

At the end of the day, which would you rather have, a proven winner, the guy with the ring, or the super talented, but no ring wearing guy.

Whenever the output of your methodology if that Trent Dilfer is better than Dan Marino, you may want to rethink your methodology.

[Tribe4SF]

I'm shocked that none of the W&M folks are throwing Paulus into this mix!

He came out of the spring neck-and-neck with rFr. Brent Caprio. Hard to plug a guy who hasn't won the job yet, and has never taken a snap for the Tribe. We're not bowled over by the FBS experience, and high school accolades. We had a 4-star QB transfer once before, and he lost the job to a redshirt freshman. Mike looked good in the spring, but there's no basis to push him as one of the tops in the conference.

[bluehenbillk]

Rank them based on what?

If you want to rank them in terms of impact on this year's team: Whitney, Devlin & Dudzik are all really high. Whitney is like an Eric Crouch type that Nebraska had.

If you rank them like NFL scouts would rank them Devlin is a run-away, USA Today already had him as a potential 1st round pick.

[andy7171]

Here's what I wrote on the CAAZONE

Having had the opportunity to talk to 8 head coaches and 2 SID's, I have a little better idea on how the QB's can be ranked. This also takes into account the OL's that will be protecting them.

Whitney has to be #1 because of all of the talent he has around him (YES, SZCZUR'S COMING BACK), his ability to run and pass, coaching schemes, and protection.

Devlin would be my #2, as the Blue Hens probably have the second best OL in the CAA.

Toman is #3 right now, but by a slim margin.

Smith/Treister (yet TBD, but Smith has slight advantage) #4.

Paul-Etienne #5 has the athleticism, not sure he has the blocking.

Dudzik, #6, unfortunately does not have a great OL in front of him. Hopefully, his OL can reach the level of average.

Havens, #7, nudges out Athens as he has the better team.

Athens, #8, is probably the better QB than Havens, but his OL is still young.

Corp, #9, is a talented QB, he just doesn't have a line to protect him.

W&M QB, #10, TBD, None of them are ready to start.

While I'll agree Athens is the future for Towson, he's redshirting this year. Chris Hart transfered in from a JC in Georgia. Athens and Hart will duke it out in the spring of '11.

[GannonFan]

Devlin gets the nod here, and it's not all that close either. Did wonders last year without even an offensive line in front of him or a running game to lean on.

As for Whitney, I like the kid, and he's real gutsy. But the real spark on the offense happens when he doesn't touch the ball (i.e. Sczsur handles the snap). And he had a virtual wall in front of him in terms of a offensive line. I don't think the analogy to Trent Dilfer is fair - I think Whitney is more capable than Dilfer was, relatively speaking of course. But Whitney only has to play a small part for his team to win.

And it's hard to really pick anyone else out of the pack after these two. Some guys could really develop into nice QB's, but it's a collection of guys with little to no experience (Corp) or guys who didn't overly impress the first time around (Havens). Somebody, or more, will emerge as time goes on, but time hasn't gone on yet.

[YoUDeeMan]

If Delaware has the second best OL in the CAA, that's a pretty sad indictment of the rest of the conference. OL has been holding Delaware back for a few years now.

I think Hen fans will be pleased with our line this year.

From what I've heard, one of our previous starters will not be starting...and the rest have beefed up. The young guns (and big guns they are) will be pushing for playing time.

We will have size and depth this year...and they all will have had two years in the new offensive system. We will see a big difference in OL performance in 2010.

Too bad Baker won't be back. However, if he wins his appeal, we will be set.

[bluehenbillk]

If Delaware has the second best OL in the CAA, that's a pretty sad indictment of the rest of the conference. OL has been holding Delaware back for a few years now.

I think Hen fans will be pleased with our line this year.

From what I've heard, one of our previous starters will not be starting...and the rest have beefed up. The young guns (and big guns they are) will be pushing for playing time.

We will have size and depth this year...and they all will have had two years in the new offensive system. We will see a big difference in OL performance in 2010.

Too bad Baker won't be back. However, if he wins his appeal, we will be set.

Cluck- would that new 2nd stringer-former starter be an OT?

[BDKJMU]

According to the CAA stats, for the returning QBS it would be:
1. Whitney
2. Devlin
3. Thorpe
4. Toman
5. Etienne

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But if Dudzik had played enough games to be count, his 166.9 passing efficiency would lead (Whitney was 151.6)
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They'll be 3-5 QBS who get 1-3rd team All CAA honors. In 08' there was 5, last yr there was 3). My guess at the end of the season 4 of the following 5 will get all CAA honors (because someone is likely going to get hurt and miss a portion of the season. And yes I know people think Dudzik would be the most likely candidate to go down):
1. Devlin
2a. Whitney
2b Dudzik
2c Toman
2d Corp

2011 odds are if Corp lives up to the hype he'll be the top guy, esp since UR should go from only 7 starters back this season to 17-18 and he'll have a season in with UR's new coach & offense.

[jstclmet]

Devlin gets the nod here, and it's not all that close either. Did wonders last year without even an offensive line in front of him or a running game to lean on.

As for Whitney, I like the kid, and he's real gutsy. But the real spark on the offense happens when he doesn't touch the ball (i.e. Sczsur handles the snap). And he had a virtual wall in front of him in terms of a offensive line. I don't think the analogy to Trent Dilfer is fair - I think Whitney is more capable than Dilfer was, relatively speaking of course. But Whitney only has to play a small part for his team to win.

And it's hard to really pick anyone else out of the pack after these two. Some guys could really develop into nice QB's, but it's a collection of guys with little to no experience (Corp) or guys who didn't overly impress the first time around (Havens). Somebody, or more, will emerge as time goes on, but time hasn't gone on yet.

Szczur's a special talent and his highlites alone are overwhelming. Whitney was surrounded by a lot of talent in 09. Brandyn Harvey made many a sideline catches with toes just inside the sideline like a ballarina, or making 4th & forever TD catches to win @ #1 Richmond. Dorian Wells, MIkey Reynolds, Norman White, Tony Cianci, et al all making catches for TD's, to move the sticks, to keep drives alive. Whitney was on the passing end of all those receptions.

When Whitney couldn't find a receiver or was flushed from the pocket he picked up yards with his feet. Whitney ran the offense that came from behind and beat Temple in the opener and did the same against W&M and Montana. In the NC game, Whitney hit Sczcur on a post pass up the middle on 3rd and long to put the Wildcats in position to score the TD giving the Cats their final score.

How many times does a guy have to win to be given his just due?? In 2011, Devlin may get drafted higher, but Whitney will most likely have a pair of NC rings.

[foghorn]

Didn't Whitney, at one point during the Temple game, get benched for ineffectiveness? Just asking.