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Big Sky Coaches & Media Polls

Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2010 9:22 am
by Catattack
2010 Preseason Polls

Coaches' Poll

Team First-place Votes Total Points
1. Montana 8 64
2. Eastern Washington 51
3. Montana State 48
4. Weber State 44
5. Northern Arizona 1 41
6. Sacramento State 30
7. Northern Colorado 19
8. Portland State 18
9. Idaho State 10



Media Poll

Team First-place Votes Total Points
1. Montana 40 374
2. Eastern Washington 1 280
3. Montana State 279
4. Weber State 269
5. Northern Arizona 1 240
6. Sacramento State 166
7. Northern Colorado 128
8. Portland State 89
9. Idaho State 62


The coaches and media picked all nine teams in the same order, with spots two through five very tight. Eastern Washington, which went 8-4 last season and earned an at-large bid to the playoffs, was selected second. Beau Baldwin’s Eagles earned one first-place vote in the media poll and 280 total points. In the coaches’ poll, the Eagles earned 51 points.
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Re: Big Sky Coaches & Media Polls

Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2010 9:26 am
by grizzaholic
Apparently the coaches and the Media didn't know about EWU winning the BSC this year. I thought BF would have told them.

Re: Big Sky Coaches & Media Polls

Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2010 9:34 am
by JMU DJ
grizzaholic wrote:Apparently the coaches and the Media didn't know about EWU winning the BSC this year. I thought BF would have told them.
They're just giving Montana their "last meal." A nice big juicy steak with all the fixins to make you happy, but in the end, you're still going to the chair. The reign of the Griz is done.

Re: Big Sky Coaches & Media Polls

Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2010 9:39 am
by SouthDakotaGrizzly
Interesting that Pflugrad cast his 1st place vote for NAU. Apparently he didn't get BF's message either :lol: .

Re: Big Sky Coaches & Media Polls

Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2010 10:06 am
by Catattack
This also confirms that SuperHornet is not a coach or media.

Re: Big Sky Coaches & Media Polls

Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2010 10:08 am
by Green Cookie Monster
Catattack wrote:This also confirms that SuperHornet is not a coach or media.
We are all unsure what SH is actually. Hornets fan first but after that a deep drop off. :lol:

Re: Big Sky Coaches & Media Polls

Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2010 10:09 am
by JMU DJ
Green Cookie Monster wrote:
Catattack wrote:This also confirms that SuperHornet is not a coach or media.
We are all unsure what SH is actually. Hornets fan first but after that a deep drop off. :lol:

You can add "life long cowboy fan" and "woman's sport enthusiast" to they's list.

Re: Big Sky Coaches & Media Polls

Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2010 10:15 am
by DukeJack
JMU DJ wrote:
Green Cookie Monster wrote:
We are all unsure what SH is actually. Hornets fan first but after that a deep drop off. :lol:

You can add "life long cowboy fan" and "woman's sport enthusiast" to they's list.
I'd say they is more of a Sacred City Sirens fan - I don't think they has ever admitted to "painting up" for a Hornets game.

I don't know what it means, but it scares the crap outta me

Re: Big Sky Coaches & Media Polls

Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2010 10:35 am
by SuperHornet
DukeJack wrote:
JMU DJ wrote:

You can add "life long cowboy fan" and "woman's sport enthusiast" to they's list.
I'd say they is more of a Sacred City Sirens fan - I don't think they has ever admitted to "painting up" for a Hornets game.

I don't know what it means, but it scares the crap outta me
I think you missed the thread where I mentioned painting up for Hornets gymnastics about 12 years ago....

Re: Big Sky Coaches & Media Polls

Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2010 11:24 am
by JALMOND
Catattack wrote:2010 Preseason Polls

Coaches' Poll

Team First-place Votes Total Points
1. Montana 8 64
2. Eastern Washington 51
3. Montana State 48
4. Weber State 44
5. Northern Arizona 1 41
6. Sacramento State 30
7. Northern Colorado 19
8. Portland State 18
9. Idaho State 10



Media Poll

Team First-place Votes Total Points
1. Montana 40 374
2. Eastern Washington 1 280
3. Montana State 279
4. Weber State 269
5. Northern Arizona 1 240
6. Sacramento State 166
7. Northern Colorado 128
8. Portland State 89
9. Idaho State 62


The coaches and media picked all nine teams in the same order, with spots two through five very tight. Eastern Washington, which went 8-4 last season and earned an at-large bid to the playoffs, was selected second. Beau Baldwin’s Eagles earned one first-place vote in the media poll and 280 total points. In the coaches’ poll, the Eagles earned 51 points.
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Hmmm, interesting. I would have thought there would be more of a disparity between the two. I did not think they'd be the same. I'm having a very difficult time this year. Maybe I'll just run with these two, I don't know. The words of Vinnie Barbarino ringing in my ears, "I'm SO confused!".

Re: Big Sky Coaches & Media Polls

Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2010 11:55 am
by weberwildcat
i wonder if UM's coach picked NAU for 1st place because 2nd on down will be close with no dominant team of the bottom 8...

Re: Big Sky Coaches & Media Polls

Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2010 2:05 pm
by Wildcat Ryan
Pretty accurate, Im hoping for a 1st place finish for the Wildcats though :thumb:

Re: Big Sky Coaches & Media Polls

Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2010 2:23 pm
by Screamin_Eagle174
SuperHornet wrote:
DukeJack wrote:
I'd say they is more of a Sacred City Sirens fan - I don't think they has ever admitted to "painting up" for a Hornets game.

I don't know what it means, but it scares the crap outta me
I think you missed the thread where I mentioned painting up for Hornets gymnastics about 12 years ago....
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Re: Big Sky Coaches & Media Polls

Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2010 2:25 pm
by Screamin_Eagle174
weberwildcat wrote:i wonder if UM's coach picked NAU for 1st place because 2nd on down will be close with no dominant team of the bottom 8...
Well according to the votes, there's 3 tiers. UM by themselves, EWU, MSU, Weber, NAU in the second tier, with SAC, UNC, PSU, and ISU in the bottom tier.

Re: Big Sky Coaches & Media Polls

Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2010 2:28 pm
by Screamin_Eagle174
JALMOND wrote:
Catattack wrote:2010 Preseason Polls

Coaches' Poll

Team First-place Votes Total Points
1. Montana 8 64
2. Eastern Washington 51
3. Montana State 48
4. Weber State 44
5. Northern Arizona 1 41
6. Sacramento State 30
7. Northern Colorado 19
8. Portland State 18
9. Idaho State 10



Media Poll

Team First-place Votes Total Points
1. Montana 40 374
2. Eastern Washington 1 280
3. Montana State 279
4. Weber State 269
5. Northern Arizona 1 240
6. Sacramento State 166
7. Northern Colorado 128
8. Portland State 89
9. Idaho State 62





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Hmmm, interesting. I would have thought there would be more of a disparity between the two. I did not think they'd be the same. I'm having a very difficult time this year. Maybe I'll just run with these two, I don't know. The words of Vinnie Barbarino ringing in my ears, "I'm SO confused!".
I don't think I could rank the teams right now either J, at least do so and be happy with it. I think there are distinct tiers though.

I'd have UM, EWU, MSU and NAU in the top tier (place within interchangeable), Weber and SAC in the middle tier, with UNC, PSU, and ISU in the bottom tier.

Re: Big Sky Coaches & Media Polls

Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2010 3:33 pm
by weberwildcat
Preseason All Big Sky Team players per school

Montana - 5
Montana St - 5
Northern Arizona - 4
Sacramento St - 4
Weber St - 4
Eastern Wash - 3
Northern Colorado - 3
Idaho St - 1
Portland St - 1

Re: Big Sky Coaches & Media Polls

Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2010 4:03 pm
by BearIt
weberwildcat wrote:Preseason All Big Sky Team players per school

Montana - 5
Montana St - 5
Northern Arizona - 4
Sacramento St - 4
Weber St - 4
Eastern Wash - 3
Northern Colorado - 3
Idaho St - 1
Portland St - 1
Weber has a big drop off from having 11 players on the team last year. It will be interesting to see how that translates to their performance this season.

Re: Big Sky Coaches & Media Polls

Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2010 6:17 pm
by Mvemjsunpx
weberwildcat wrote:i wonder if UM's coach picked NAU for 1st place because 2nd on down will be close with no dominant team of the bottom 8...
I think it's more because Pflugrad was NAU's OC in 2001. He also coached with Souers for several years at Montana under Read.

Re: Big Sky Coaches & Media Polls

Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2010 7:22 pm
by SDHornet
Screamin_Eagle174 wrote:
weberwildcat wrote:i wonder if UM's coach picked NAU for 1st place because 2nd on down will be close with no dominant team of the bottom 8...
Well according to the votes, there's 3 tiers. UM by themselves, EWU, MSU, Weber, NAU in the second tier, with SAC, UNC, PSU, and ISU in the bottom tier.
I'll go with 3 tiers for this season.

1st:
  • UM
    EWU (lose their passing game and will need young players to step up)
    MSU (they return a lot and should contend)
2nd:
  • NAU (until they win a game in the 2nd half of the season, they will remain a middle tier team)
    WSU (are set up for a huge drop off this season, they could pull some surprises though)
    Sac State (need to beat the 3rd tier teams and pull a few surprises to gain some respect)
3rd:
  • UNC
    PSU
    ISU


Obviously these are interchangeable and I agree that the line is blurred between the 1st and 2nd tier. It will be interesting and entertaining to see how things play out :twocents:

Re: Big Sky Coaches & Media Polls

Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2010 7:40 pm
by Screamin_Eagle174
SDHornet wrote:
Screamin_Eagle174 wrote:
Well according to the votes, there's 3 tiers. UM by themselves, EWU, MSU, Weber, NAU in the second tier, with SAC, UNC, PSU, and ISU in the bottom tier.
I'll go with 3 tiers for this season.

1st:
  • UM
    EWU (lose their passing game and will need young players to step up)
    MSU (they return a lot and should contend)
2nd:
  • NAU (until they win a game in the 2nd half of the season, they will remain a middle tier team)
    WSU (are set up for a huge drop off this season, they could pull some surprises though)
    Sac State (need to beat the 3rd tier teams and pull a few surprises to gain some respect)
3rd:
  • UNC
    PSU
    ISU


Obviously these are interchangeable and I agree that the line is blurred between the 1st and 2nd tier. It will be interesting and entertaining to see how things play out :twocents:
I can't really argue with that either. Remains to be seen though if we lost our passing game. Yeah, we lost Nichols, Boyce and Tony Davis, but BLM should continue the passing game pretty decently. We know he can throw the ball, it's just a matter if he can keep the picks down, which he couldn't do at SMU.

Re: Big Sky Coaches & Media Polls

Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2010 10:04 pm
by SuperHornet
UM/Sac
Weber
EWU
NAU
MSU/PSU
UNC/ISU

Re: Big Sky Coaches & Media Polls

Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2010 10:17 pm
by SDHornet
SuperHornet wrote:UM/Sac
Weber
EWU
NAU
MSU/PSU
UNC/ISU
MSU should not finish anywhere near the bottom of the conference this season and I don't think WSU will finish near the top either. However I wouldn't mind seeing Sac finish that high. ;)

Re: Big Sky Coaches & Media Polls

Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2010 10:20 pm
by kemajic
Screamin_Eagle174 wrote:
weberwildcat wrote:i wonder if UM's coach picked NAU for 1st place because 2nd on down will be close with no dominant team of the bottom 8...
Well according to the votes, there's 3 tiers. UM by themselves, EWU, MSU, Weber, NAU in the second tier, with SAC, UNC, PSU, and ISU in the bottom tier.
Just like always.

Re: Big Sky Coaches & Media Polls

Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2010 10:21 pm
by Screamin_Eagle174
SuperHornet wrote:UM/Sac
Weber
EWU
NAU
MSU/PSU
UNC/ISU
Seriously, do you know anything about current Big Sky Football? Or are you perpetually lost in the land of make-believe giving Mr. McFeely the dutch rudder?

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Re: Big Sky Coaches & Media Polls

Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2010 10:51 pm
by Green Cookie Monster
Some people have been a bit offended that the actor, Lee Marvin, is buried in a grave alongside 3 and 4-star generals at Arlington National Cemetery. His marker gives his name, rank (PVT) and service (USMC). Nothing else. Here's a guy who was only a famous movie star who served his time, why the heck does he rate burial with these guys? Well, following is the amazing answer:

I always liked Lee Marvin, but didn't know the extent of his Corps experiences.

In a time when many Hollywood stars served their country in the armed forces often in rear echelon posts where they were carefully protected, only to be trotted out to perform for the cameras in war bond promotions, Lee Marvin was a genuine hero. He won the Navy Cross at Iwo Jima. There is only one higher Naval award... the Medal Of Honor!

If that is a surprising comment on the true character of the man, he credits his sergeant with an even greater show of bravery.

Dialog from "The Tonight Show with Johnny Carson": His guest was Lee Marvin... Johnny said, "Lee, I'll bet a lot of people are unaware that you were a Marine in the initial landing at Iwo Jima ..and that during the course of that action you earned the Navy Cross and were severely wounded."

"Yeah, yeah... I got shot square in the bottom and they gave me the Cross for securing a hot spot about halfway up Suribachi. Bad thing about getting shot up on a mountain is guys getting shot hauling you down. But, Johnny, at Iwo , I served under the bravest man I ever knew... We both got the Cross the same day, but what he did for his Cross made mine look cheap in comparison. That dumb guy actually stood up on Red beach and directed his troops to move forward and get the hell off the beach.. Bullets flying by, with mortar rounds landing everywhere and he stood there as the main target of gunfire so that he could get his men to safety. He did this on more than one occasion because his men's safety was more important than his own life.

That Sergeant and I have been lifelong friends. When they brought me off Suribachi we passed the Sergeant and he lit a smoke and passed it to me, lying on my belly on the litter and said, "Where'd they get you Lee?" "Well Bob.... if you make it home before me, tell Mom to sell the outhouse!"

Johnny, I'm not lying, Sergeant Keeshan was the bravest man I ever knew.
The Sergeant's name is Bob Keeshan. You and the world know him as Captain Kangaroo."

On another note, there was this wimpy little man (who passed away) on PBS, gentle and quiet. Mr. Rogers is another of those you would least suspect of being anything but what he now portrays to our youth. But Mr. Rogers was a U.S. Navy Seal, combat-proven in Vietnam with over twenty-five confirmed kills to his name. He wore a long-sleeved sweater on TV, to cover the many tattoos on his forearm and biceps. He was a master in small arms and hand-to-hand combat, able to disarm or kill in a heartbeat

After the war Mr. Rogers became an ordained Presbyterian minister and therefore a pacifist. Vowing to never harm another human and also dedicating the rest of his life to trying to help lead children on the right path in life... He hid away the tattoos and his past life and won our hearts with his quiet wit and charm..

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