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Division I welcomes two

The Division I Leadership Council elected Central Arkansas and Cal State Bakersfield to Division I membership for the 2010-11 academic year. Both institutions reclassified from Division II through the traditional five-year transition process.

In 2007, the Division I Board of Directors placed a moratorium on new Division I members, but that decision did not affect schools already in the reclassification process.

Central Arkansas joined the Southland Conference, the league in which most of the Bears’ sports competed recently. In fact, Central Arkansas’ football team won the league last year but was ineligible for postseason play.

Cal State Bakersfield is interested in joining the Big West Conference. The Roadrunners recently reinstated several sports after budget cuts forced the elimination of men’s and women’s golf, women’s tennis, and wrestling. A fundraising drive raised enough money to save the endangered teams.

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EPJr wrote:Division I welcomes two=

Central Arkansas joined the Southland Conference, the league in which most of the Bears’ sports competed recently. In fact, Central Arkansas’ football team won the league last year but was ineligible for postseason play.

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Central Arkansas was 2-5 in the conference last year

Always good to see more not less

Welcome aboard! We hope it is a great ride for you. The FCS is a great track to be on, IMHO.

SumItUp wrote:

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Central Arkansas joined the Southland Conference, the league in which most of the Bears’ sports competed recently. In fact, Central Arkansas’ football team won the league last year but was ineligible for postseason play.

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Central Arkansas was 2-5 in the conference last year

He meant to say we won the SLC in 2008 [10-2 (6-1)].

The NCAA should have given similar treatment to Houston Baptist since they had made their intentions known and were filing paperwork with NCAA when the moratorium was announced. HBU was applying for reinstatement as a Division I member after stepping out to NAIA for awhile. Now they remain in limbo-land.

Here's the deal with Bako:

Fan-wise, they'll be like SUU, trying to kick down the doors to the Big West, a conference whose fans, already fed up with D-II call-up Riverside, want nothing to do with them.

Realistically, though, when it comes to Cali D-IIs, unlike the Big Sky's Doug Fullerton, Big West Commish Dumb-Dumb Dennis (3D) Farrell is a pushover, particularly for schools along the I-5 or CA-99 corridors. Within a couple of years, Bako will be a conference member against the best interests of the conference.

In Bako's favor is that their boys basketball team (and maybe their baseball team, I'm not sure) were pretty good in D-II. Whether that continues or they flame out in D-I remains to be seen.

Bakersfield has been a solid DII hoops program for a long, long time. I wouldn't doubt they could continue to be competitive in the Big West should they gain admission.

Sly Fox wrote:The NCAA should have given similar treatment to Houston Baptist since they had made their intentions known and were filing paperwork with NCAA when the moratorium was announced. HBU was applying for reinstatement as a Division I member after stepping out to NAIA for awhile. Now they remain in limbo-land.

I think making their intentions known...and actually being in the transition process...are massively different...

There are lots of schools that have made their intentions known...

It's called wishful thinking...which are real, and which are pretenders???

joshuca wrote:

SumItUp wrote:
Central Arkansas was 2-5 in the conference last year

He meant to say we won the SLC in 2008 [10-2 (6-1)].

The correct response is that they had the best record of any team that played an SLC slate but did not 'officially' win the SLC championship because they were ineligible to do so. The trophy then went to TXST (8-4, 5-2)

(2009
TXST 7-4, 5-2
UCA 5-7, 2-5)

It's an old issue that needs to die.

Welcome to The FCS UCA. Hope you make it to San Marcos this year for the game.

Actually what HBU had done was beyond stating they'd like to return to Division. They had informed the NCAA and were filing all of the necessary paperwork for reinstatement when the organization instituted the moratorium. They were the only school in such a predicament and the boys in Indianapolis cut them no slack. I guess it was retribution for pulling out of the NCAA for a few years due to funding problems.

Congrats to them. Too bad most college football fans will still refer to them as "D-II".

CatMom wrote:

joshuca wrote:
He meant to say we won the SLC in 2008 [10-2 (6-1)].

The correct response is that they had the best record of any team that played an SLC slate but did not 'officially' win the SLC championship because they were ineligible to do so. The trophy then went to TXST (8-4, 5-2)

(2009
TXST 7-4, 5-2
UCA 5-7, 2-5)

It's an old issue that needs to die.

Welcome to The FCS UCA. Hope you make it to San Marcos this year for the game.

Actually UCA was eligible to win the SLC in 2008. If the comish would have given them the title, then the SLC would have lost it's automatic bid in the playoffs (like it mattered)and that would have angered the SLC schools...understandably. So the correct response is UCA was eligible, but that's history


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Classified as an FCS Independent a team is not eligible to win a conference title. While other UCA sports were, football was not.

I'll never argue UCA wasn't the better team that year , because they were, but I will stand firm on the NCAA rules of eligibilty and not blame the SLC commish.

CatMom wrote:Classified as an FCS Independent a team is not eligible to win a conference title. While other UCA sports were, football was not.

You're right Standing in that press room with the comish as he apologized and hung on every word by the athletic admin at UCA...I can see your point

Let's just call it a game and end it.

I'm aware UCA. They wanted to give it you guys but they forgot to check with the 'powers that be' and then had to do what they had to do. It was kind of a shame...in the end.

Looking on the other side, had you gotten the auto, we may have gotten an AL bid and you guys would have gotten to go to Montana instead of us

CatMom wrote:I.........

Looking on the other side, had you gotten the auto, we may have gotten an AL bid and you guys would have gotten to go to Montana instead of us

Any thoughts on how that might have turned out?

Tailbone wrote:

CatMom wrote:I.........

Looking on the other side, had you gotten the auto, we may have gotten an AL bid and you guys would have gotten to go to Montana instead of us

Any thoughts on how that might have turned out?

It might have been very interesting.

I think the results would have been the same. Maybe the score is closer but UM still takes it.

As for TXST, no idea because I have no clue if we would have gotten an At Large and if we did, who we would have had to play in the first round.

Any Big West posters know if they will extend an invite to CSU Bakersfield? What is the feeling of current Big West member schools of adding a new member?

SuperHornet wrote:Here's the deal with Bako:


Realistically, though, when it comes to Cali D-IIs, unlike the Big Sky's Doug Fullerton, Big West Commish Dumb-Dumb Dennis (3D) Farrell is a pushover, particularly for schools along the I-5 or CA-99 corridors. Within a couple of years, Bako will be a conference member against the best interests of the conference.

In Bako's favor is that their boys basketball team (and maybe their baseball team, I'm not sure) were pretty good in D-II. Whether that continues or they flame out in D-I remains to be seen.

Hey mate, i'm curious why you think CSUB in the BW wouldn't be in the conference's best interests? CSUB is essentially set up perfectly to be in the Big West, and knowing the conference's baseball ambitions they have put a major emphasis on that program in hopes of getting in. I'm not sure what the downside would realistically be for them in your view.

SDHornet wrote:Any Big West posters know if they will extend an invite to CSU Bakersfield? What is the feeling of current Big West member schools of adding a new member?[/quote="SDHornet"]

My understanding was always that the BW privileged baseball pretty highly among prospective members and were going to see how CSUB turned out this season. Going 26-30, four games below .500 isn't incredible, but it's double the win total of the inaugural season, and there were some pretty good steps like the away series win against Arizona, sweeping Air Force and SJSU, and getting series wins over Nevada CSUN, UC Davis, and Pacific. Not sure what the BWC would be looking for that CSUB isn't delivering.