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Did you guys put any effort into this at all?!
Missouri State: 1-10

Sorry, I have a hard time buying your "analysis" .

[Thumper 76]

WTH?!?!?!?! NDSU above SDSU? I don't mind people saying that this will be a rough year for us but seriously? What green and gold kool aid you guys freaking drinking? I don't mean to belittle what you think or anything but I'm just curious as to how you think that NDSU magics their asses into the playoffs.

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Did you guys put any effort into this at all?!
Missouri State: 1-10

Sorry, I have a hard time buying your "analysis" .

You guys, is one person. I did put effort into it, and went game by game picking the winners and losers. Just because you don't like it doesn't mean there wasn't any effort.

Feel free to post your look at things.

[FCS Update]

WTH?!?!?!?! NDSU above SDSU? I don't mind people saying that this will be a rough year for us but seriously? What green and gold kool aid you guys freaking drinking? I don't mean to belittle what you think or anything but I'm just curious as to how you think that NDSU magics their asses into the playoffs.

You know, it surprised me too when I looked at it. I went game by game and in the end NDSU is on the bubble. Not sure if they'd make it in because I haven't run all of the conferences.

SDSU has a tough schedule this year: at SIU, at UNI, at Delaware, at Nebraska, and the Marker Game is in Fargo.

SDSU going 3-2 in those games would be amazing. I would guarantee at least 2 losses in those 5 games. On top of that they still have to play Illinois State. I like the Jacks and have a friend in the AD, but these picks are my football opinions. Not who I like.

[Theee Catrabbit]

catch my breath...whew..

:rofl

MSU with one win? and NDSU and UNI in the playoffs are what seals it for me on your preview. Awful just awful. I don't even care that you have State missing the playoffs. Indiana State with 3 wins? Doubtful at best

[FCS Update]

catch my breath...whew..

:rofl

MSU with one win? and NDSU and UNI in the playoffs are what seals it for me on your preview. Awful just awful. I don't even care that you have State missing the playoffs. Indiana State with 3 wins? Doubtful at best

Missouri State has been close to being bad or good. I happen to think the rest of the league has improved. Indiana State beats St. Francis, Quincy, and one bottom feeder of the MVFC. Not that hard to fathom.

NDSU is on the bubble at 7-4.

I might be off, but that's the point of this. It's my sincere opinion from watching 21 years of FCS football. I could've copied and pasted the MVFC poll, but why bother.

Who do you think MSU beats? What do you think NDSU's record will be? UNI has a lot of talent at the skill positions and a lot of prospects on both sides of the line. It's possible things won't come together, but that can be said for every team.

UNI was 7-4 last year. They were a blocked FG and a last second touchdown from being 9-2.

James Madison was 6-5 last year. They lost to Maryland by 3 in OT, Lost to Hofstra by a TD, and Lost to Richmond by 4. They were also almost 9-2.

Missouri State was on the other side of the coin with a 1 point win @ WIU and a 4 point win @ NDSU. No close losses.
FCS teams have a small maragin of error.

[Thumper 76]

WTH?!?!?!?! NDSU above SDSU? I don't mind people saying that this will be a rough year for us but seriously? What green and gold kool aid you guys freaking drinking? I don't mean to belittle what you think or anything but I'm just curious as to how you think that NDSU magics their asses into the playoffs.

You know, it surprised me too when I looked at it. I went game by game and in the end NDSU is on the bubble. Not sure if they'd make it in because I haven't run all of the conferences.

SDSU has a tough schedule this year: at SIU, at UNI, at Delaware, at Nebraska, and the Marker Game is in Fargo.

SDSU going 3-2 in those games would be amazing. I would guarantee at least 2 losses in those 5 games. On top of that they still have to play Illinois State. I like the Jacks and have a friend in the AD, but these picks are my football opinions. Not who I like.

Ok fine I'll bite. A) The marker game I refuse to believe we will lose. Don't care where NDSU is still going to be SHIT this year, cause they still have Bohl and their defense still sucks. B) I highly doubt we lose to both UNI and SIU. UNI, as much as they hate to admit is somewhat down this year, and if you look at SIU's schedule before we play them, they are going to be beaten battered and bruised. I don't know which way to go on the UD game, but I think the bellers coming from the SDSU crowd is the fact that we proved last year we belong in the top by battling our way to some respect, and the fact that the 5 losses you are saying we lose 4 out of 5 of our tough games AND one at home. Tough one to argue to me when I feel we have a better team than last year, and arguable better defense than last year even without Batten. So sir, I reject your reality and and substitute my own

[Cap'n Cat]

Guys,
I know FCS Update. He's a good friend of mine and the guy is good with FCS. The above is his opinion and he has met his goal which is to start a good conversation.

Re SDSU, you will lose to both UNI and SIU. After that, as he said, you have a brutal skeddy. I like SDSU and am proud to have them as a member of the MVFC.

UNI has had a few years in which they were picked fifth, and such, only to go on to win the conf or share the crown and go to the playoffs. Farley's first year, 2001, comes to mind, as does, I believe it was 2006 or 2007. The only questions are the lines, but they have the best offensive line coach in the country, in my opinion, in Rick Nelson. They have a solid staff who are schemers and can get around deficiencies. UNI also has a rather friendly schedule this year.

We'll see it unfold.

[Gil Dobie]

UNI is never out of the running with Farley as coach. FCS Update is right IMO, about SDSU going 3-2 against those 5 teams as being good. Sure they will probably beat NDSU, but that's only one 1 last I checked. It's not going to be easy winning at UNI, SIU, and Delaware. Nebraska is of course a loss. 2-3 will be good IMO. Seems some SDSU fans have the NDSU ego thing going this year.

[Cap'n Cat]

UNI is never out of the running with Farley as coach. FCS Update is right IMO, about SDSU going 3-2 against those 5 teams as being good. Sure they will probably beat NDSU, but that's only one 1 last I checked. It's not going to be easy winning at UNI, SIU, and Delaware. Nebraska is of course a loss. 2-3 will be good IMO. Seems some SDSU fans have the NDSU ego thing going this year.

When you taste the sweet elixir of success as they did last year, either of two things can happen - become a solid program year-in, year-out, like UNI and SIU, or you can cop an overinflated sense of self importance and join the long list of one hit wonders and also-rans. We all genuinely hope it's the former and not the latter for SDSU.

[Gil Dobie]

UNI is never out of the running with Farley as coach. FCS Update is right IMO, about SDSU going 3-2 against those 5 teams as being good. Sure they will probably beat NDSU, but that's only one 1 last I checked. It's not going to be easy winning at UNI, SIU, and Delaware. Nebraska is of course a loss. 2-3 will be good IMO. Seems some SDSU fans have the NDSU ego thing going this year.

When you taste the sweet elixir of success as they did last year, either of two things can happen - become a solid program year-in, year-out, like UNI and SIU, or you can cop an overinflated sense of self importance and join the long list of one hit wonders and also-rans. We all genuinely hope it's the former and not the latter for SDSU.

I also hope for SDSU to continue it's success, and hope NDSU can turn it around in the near future.

[Cap'n Cat]

When you taste the sweet elixir of success as they did last year, either of two things can happen - become a solid program year-in, year-out, like UNI and SIU, or you can cop an overinflated sense of self importance and join the long list of one hit wonders and also-rans. We all genuinely hope it's the former and not the latter for SDSU.

I also hope for SDSU to continue it's success, and hope NDSU can turn it around in the near future.

Haven't been to Bisonville in ages, Gil. Is there still a loud and delusional "go to FBS" contingent there?

[mgbison]

SDSU fans need to chill out. Second, I would say Bohl has had more success over the longhaul than Stig has. If Stig would have been the head coach anywhere else in the country, he'd have been canned after the WI lacrose loss.

My concern with SDSU this year is their offense. I watched the NDSU and MN games last year, and SDSU's offense is nothing great. I'm not sold on TOB, and depending on how your oline holds up this year is a big question mark. Minnett (sp?) is a good back, but teams will just stack the box.

[Cap'n Cat]

SDSU will exit the Top 25 this year, and stay out the remainder of the season.

[Gil Dobie]

I also hope for SDSU to continue it's success, and hope NDSU can turn it around in the near future.

Haven't been to Bisonville in ages, Gil. Is there still a loud and delusional "go to FBS" contingent there?

I don't get over there much anymore, staying away from the loud and delusional contingent.

[houndawg]

catch my breath...whew..

:rofl

MSU with one win? and NDSU and UNI in the playoffs are what seals it for me on your preview. Awful just awful. I don't even care that you have State missing the playoffs. Indiana State with 3 wins? Doubtful at best

Missouri State has been close to being bad or good. I happen to think the rest of the league has improved. Indiana State beats St. Francis, Quincy, and one bottom feeder of the MVFC. Not that hard to fathom.

NDSU is on the bubble at 7-4.

I might be off, but that's the point of this. It's my sincere opinion from watching 21 years of FCS football. I could've copied and pasted the MVFC poll, but why bother.

Who do you think MSU beats? What do you think NDSU's record will be? UNI has a lot of talent at the skill positions and a lot of prospects on both sides of the line. It's possible things won't come together, but that can be said for every team.

UNI was 7-4 last year. They were a blocked FG and a last second touchdown from being 9-2.

James Madison was 6-5 last year. They lost to Maryland by 3 in OT, Lost to Hofstra by a TD, and Lost to Richmond by 4. They were also almost 9-2.

Missouri State was on the other side of the coin with a 1 point win @ WIU and a 4 point win @ NDSU. No close losses.
FCS teams have a small maragin of error.

I agree with your point about the MVC being stronger and deeper this year.

If UNI, SIU, and ISU are all 9-2, they will be some hard-earned 9-2s. I can see a scenario where each of them has an FBS loss and two MVC losses, with YSU or NDSU or both picking off one of the top four at home.

YSU will sneak up on somebody at their place.

The Jacks have a man's schedule. 7-4 would be a hell of an accomplishment but I don't see how they could have any gas left for the playoffs if they pulled it off.

I think MSU is still better than WIU and ISU, if I were going to bet against any of your predictions it would be MSU at 1-10. 3-8, 4-7 is more like it

NDSU has a proud tradition and at some point they should adjust to the competition level in the MVC and become competitive. Their problem is that they are so slow that Cap'n could play RB for them.

ISU has the best chance to give the Salukis their first conference loss in over a year, imo, by virtue of getting them at home. UNI will reload and should beat everybody but SIU and maybe ISU.

Trivia: When the Trees play Quincy they will probably be facing former Saluki QB Bobby Brenneisen who has decided to go where he can play for his last year. Good luck to him.

[houndawg]

SDSU fans need to chill out. Second, I would say Bohl has had more success over the longhaul than Stig has. If Stig would have been the head coach anywhere else in the country, he'd have been canned after the WI lacrose loss.

My concern with SDSU this year is their offense. I watched the NDSU and MN games last year, and SDSU's offense is nothing great. I'm not sold on TOB, and depending on how your oline holds up this year is a big question mark. Minnett (sp?) is a good back, but teams will just stack the box.

Can't speak for the long haul, but I would say that in recent history Stig has done more with less than any coach in the country. Their offense doesn't scare me either, but they hung 48 on the Griz in a playoff game and that ain't easy to do.

[Cap'n Cat]

Missouri State has been close to being bad or good. I happen to think the rest of the league has improved. Indiana State beats St. Francis, Quincy, and one bottom feeder of the MVFC. Not that hard to fathom.

NDSU is on the bubble at 7-4.

I might be off, but that's the point of this. It's my sincere opinion from watching 21 years of FCS football. I could've copied and pasted the MVFC poll, but why bother.

Who do you think MSU beats? What do you think NDSU's record will be? UNI has a lot of talent at the skill positions and a lot of prospects on both sides of the line. It's possible things won't come together, but that can be said for every team.

UNI was 7-4 last year. They were a blocked FG and a last second touchdown from being 9-2.

James Madison was 6-5 last year. They lost to Maryland by 3 in OT, Lost to Hofstra by a TD, and Lost to Richmond by 4. They were also almost 9-2.

Missouri State was on the other side of the coin with a 1 point win @ WIU and a 4 point win @ NDSU. No close losses.
FCS teams have a small maragin of error.

I agree with your point about the MVC being stronger and deeper this year.

If UNI, SIU, and ISU are all 9-2, they will be some hard-earned 9-2s. I can see a scenario where each of them has an FBS loss and two MVC losses, with YSU or NDSU or both picking off one of the top four at home.

YSU will sneak up on somebody at their place.

The Jacks have a man's schedule. 7-4 would be a hell of an accomplishment but I don't see how they could have any gas left for the playoffs if they pulled it off.

I think MSU is still better than WIU and ISU, if I were going to bet against any of your predictions it would be MSU at 1-10. 3-8, 4-7 is more like it

NDSU has a proud tradition and at some point they should adjust to the competition level in the MVC and become competitive. Their problem is that they are so slow that Cap'n could play RB for them.

ISU has the best chance to give the Salukis their first conference loss in over a year, imo, by virtue of getting them at home. UNI will reload and should beat everybody but SIU and maybe ISU.

Trivia: When the Trees play Quincy they will probably be facing former Saluki QB Bobby Brenneisen who has decided to go where he can play for his last year. Good luck to him.

As ugly as it was for UNI, I was there, and too many people attach too much signifcance to that ILSU loss. They pulled a Darrell Mudra and changed their entire defense for the game, showing nothing that was on film. UNI recovered by the fourth and had it won, but collaped in the last minute. Lucky win. No way they leave the Dome with another win. 6-5 for the Crimson Crows, at best.

I like MSU to be better than 1-10, too. Hope they go 6-5 or better. YSU, WIU, INSU, NDSU and ILSU need to look at 2011 for any success.

It is another year of an SIU and UNI slugfest with both making the playoffs with the three-conf-loss Rabbits staying home.

[Cap'n Cat]

NDSU has a proud tradition and at some point they should adjust to the competition level in the MVC and become competitive. Their problem is that they are so slow that Cap'n could play RB for them.

If I was the RB at NDSU, I'd lead the conference in touchdowns, all of them one yard dives. Or, I'd transfer to a real program, like UNI.

[FCS Update]

You know, it surprised me too when I looked at it. I went game by game and in the end NDSU is on the bubble. Not sure if they'd make it in because I haven't run all of the conferences.

SDSU has a tough schedule this year: at SIU, at UNI, at Delaware, at Nebraska, and the Marker Game is in Fargo.

SDSU going 3-2 in those games would be amazing. I would guarantee at least 2 losses in those 5 games. On top of that they still have to play Illinois State. I like the Jacks and have a friend in the AD, but these picks are my football opinions. Not who I like.

Ok fine I'll bite. A) The marker game I refuse to believe we will lose. Don't care where NDSU is still going to be **** this year, cause they still have Bohl and their defense still sucks. B) I highly doubt we lose to both UNI and SIU. UNI, as much as they hate to admit is somewhat down this year, and if you look at SIU's schedule before we play them, they are going to be beaten battered and bruised. I don't know which way to go on the UD game, but I think the bellers coming from the SDSU crowd is the fact that we proved last year we belong in the top by battling our way to some respect, and the fact that the 5 losses you are saying we lose 4 out of 5 of our tough games AND one at home. Tough one to argue to me when I feel we have a better team than last year, and arguable better defense than last year even without Batten.

I can agree. I could see SDSU winning all 5. I just didn't pick em that way. A FG here, a FG there, and 6-5, becomes 8-3.

[Theee Catrabbit]

1st off if you notice my post: I wasn't mad that State had even been dumped out of making the playoff. I can see where someone would look at that schedule from the outside and say "Oh Gee, I don't see how they are going to make it". I am adhering to the SDSU mantra of 1-0 every week. That is our coaches creed, our players creed and our fans(we try to stick to it, but it's a long time to football still so we get itchy).
But I can talk about other teams ad nauseum:
I simply don't agree with NDSU making the playoffs, and there are many NDSU fans who won't say it publicly, but no it will take a monumental effort to turn that team right side up. And no they will not get the Dakota Marker back from State. Not because I'm a fan, but sincerely because they aren't going to be better than 4 wins this year. Seriously what is the difference between last year and this year? The answer is probably less arrests.
MSU is one of the better returning teams in the league...they simply will not have 1 win! It's a ridiculous statement.
I agree Ill State sounds good and they will be better and will trounce everyone in the middle 3.
UNI will be down again! Lost both their Defensive and offensive leaders and probably some of their identity. Say what you want but that's hard to overcome. Mostly they "beat themselves", at least that's what their players say in the papers, so no one should really have to show up against them. Especially if they lost their leaders.
SIU always tough to crack, no doubt about it, but replacing Deji is going to be harder than advertised. My guess is SIU loses two games this year.

[FCS Update]

I agree with your point about the MVC being stronger and deeper this year.

If UNI, SIU, and ISU are all 9-2, they will be some hard-earned 9-2s. I can see a scenario where each of them has an FBS loss and two MVC losses, with YSU or NDSU or both picking off one of the top four at home.

YSU will sneak up on somebody at their place.

The Jacks have a man's schedule. 7-4 would be a hell of an accomplishment but I don't see how they could have any gas left for the playoffs if they pulled it off.

I think MSU is still better than WIU and ISU, if I were going to bet against any of your predictions it would be MSU at 1-10. 3-8, 4-7 is more like it

NDSU has a proud tradition and at some point they should adjust to the competition level in the MVC and become competitive. Their problem is that they are so slow that Cap'n could play RB for them.

ISU has the best chance to give the Salukis their first conference loss in over a year, imo, by virtue of getting them at home. UNI will reload and should beat everybody but SIU and maybe ISU.

Trivia: When the Trees play Quincy they will probably be facing former Saluki QB Bobby Brenneisen who has decided to go where he can play for his last year. Good luck to him.

I'm with you here. 8-3 at the top is very possible. Would be bad for the MVC and most likely mean no seeded team.

[FCS Update]

Their offense doesn't scare me either, but they hung 48 on the Griz in a playoff game and that ain't easy to do.

They also managed to lose that game. That could be a sticking point that brings them together or completely messes with their heads.

[Cap'n Cat]

1st off if you notice my post: I wasn't mad that State had even been dumped out of making the playoff. I can see where someone would look at that schedule from the outside and say "Oh Gee, I don't see how they are going to make it". I am adhering to the SDSU mantra of 1-0 every week. That is our coaches creed, our players creed and our fans(we try to stick to it, but it's a long time to football still so we get itchy).
But I can talk about other teams ad nauseum:
I simply don't agree with NDSU making the playoffs, and there are many NDSU fans who won't say it publicly, but no it will take a monumental effort to turn that team right side up. And no they will not get the Dakota Marker back from State. Not because I'm a fan, but sincerely because they aren't going to be better than 4 wins this year. Seriously what is the difference between last year and this year? The answer is probably less arrests.
MSU is one of the better returning teams in the league...they simply will not have 1 win! It's a ridiculous statement.
I agree Ill State sounds good and they will be better and will trounce everyone in the middle 3.
UNI will be down again! Lost both their Defensive and offensive leaders and probably some of their identity. Say what you want but that's hard to overcome. Mostly they "beat themselves", at least that's what their players say in the papers, so no one should really have to show up against them. Especially if they lost their leaders.
SIU always tough to crack, no doubt about it, but replacing Deji is going to be harder than advertised. My guess is SIU loses two games this year.

Every backup on the UNI O-Line last year is returning and they're all 6'5" 300 lbs! Needn't worry about them. Bring your crying towel to the Dome this year. Or, your jack towel if complete and utter annihilation of visitors makes you splooge.